Someone has decompiled the Adobe suite, rebuilt in Rust and released it as OSS

6 days ago by RSS Bot to c/hackernews

Holy shit. Someone has decompiled the Adobe suite, rebuilt it in Rust and released it as open source. Either all software is dead or the US copyright laws are about to receive an update. getartcraft.com/apps https://getartcraft.com/apps
markz 58 points 6 days ago

Doesn't look like a decomp, but a vibecoded clone. A decomp would get sued into oblivion anyway.

I highly doubt this will ever replace the originals, but Adobe would deserve that.

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BooBees 11 points 6 days ago

If those apps have all the same tools fully functionally integrated, there’s absolutely zero chance it was vibe coded. It would take longer to vibe code than to remake it by hand, in order to get all of them working together properly. Vibe coding isn’t there yet.

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BillionaireStew 17 points 6 days ago path: 0 26211607 26211742 26212007, hotness: undefined, score: 17, children: 2
bashibazouk 3 points 6 days ago

So I have to wear a bunny suit while using it?

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SkaveRat 2 points 6 days ago

Yes. But you should do that at all times anyway

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moth 8 points 6 days ago

if it's a clean room implementation they can sue, but they won't necessarily win. anthropic gave up when claude was translated to rust because none of their code or assets were used, so they had no standing to object to the software itself existing.

this is the same sort of issue john deere has with open source diagnostic software, and nintendo has with some emulators. it's not illegal to copy features so long as you don't reuse any assets. a complete rewrite of photoshop in rust might just get away with it. you can be sure adobe will be pouring over their source for the slimmest bit of their IP. and of course, even if they would lose, there's nothing stopping them from dragging the other party through the courts just to ruin them financially.

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bonesawmcl 1 point 5 days ago

Is a "clean room" implementation of anything even possible while using LLMs? It shouldn't be by definition.

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OfCourseNot 4 points 6 days ago

the open source rebuilds that were made in days are buggy and a bit broken at present.

I think it could be both. They decompiled it, likely with the help of an llm, and then vibe coded a reimplementation in rust. They claim 'clean-room reimplementation' on github, but I'm not so sure this would be considered clean room. I don't know, tho, let's wait for the lawyers and judges to say.

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aReallyCrunchyLeaf 20 points 6 days ago

mfs will do literally anything besides use GIMP

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Squizzy 23 points 6 days ago

Look GIMP is great as an alternative. Happy it exists. It is cumbersome and difficult, it has a steep learning curve and I just gave up and pirated PS

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blargh513 4 points 6 days ago

I want to like gimp, but it really borders on unusable unless you really commit to it.

For filthy casual users like me, there is little value in persisting with it. Either use something simple for quick edits, or give to an llm for more complex tasks.

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pwnicholson 1 point 6 days ago

Gimp can't attach the new stuff Photoshop AI-powered stuff can. It's a difficult to use clone of Photoshop as it was about 8 years ago.

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pizza_the_hutt 19 points 6 days ago

I cannot comment on this specific case because I have not looked at the source code or products, but there's a bigger story here that most people are missing. In the last week, LLMs have been used to decompile multiple video games into human-readable source code that can be easily modified by humans or LLMs. These have resulted in projects mixing elements from Mario, Elden Ring, Minecraft, etc. LLMs are now able to decompile software into usable source (and check if said source compiles to match the original, on a loop).

I am struggling to wrap my mind around the consequences of this development. It basically means that all commercial, closed-source software can now be pirated and modified at will, assuming you have the money to pay for LLM tokens for the decompilation process.

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Dran_Arcana 8 points 6 days ago

It means more software is about to go cloud-only. Decompiling Photoshop wouldn't have any value if all the actual work is done via cloud GPUs and raw bitmap layers are returned instead. Double bonus for the shareholders you get software as a service and you also get to rent compute by the dollar on top.

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modus 5 points 6 days ago

That's pretty scary. Hardware is already scarce because of datacenters. If companies like Adobe increase their need for hardware, it will prevent users from building powerful machines. They'll be forced to use lighter machines and access those cloud compute services, and things will balloon from there.

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Frettchen 2 points 6 days ago

No why do you need Adobe anymore? They had a head start and it seems that is gone

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traxex 0 points 5 days ago

Cloud only would just make it more difficult but still not impossible. Packet data still needs to hit the network and with it, a lot of server information. Truly no software is safe anymore.

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massacre 5 points 6 days ago

I think what will be exceedingly interesting is decompiled drivers for proprietary and out of support hardware for FOSS. Then there's ROMS from a host of device types...

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WesternInfidels 14 points 6 days ago

It's an interesting story, but the comments over there throw some plausible doubt on the "decompiled" aspect.

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anarcat 9 points 5 days ago

For anyone that's interested, it is vibe-coded slop. I installed their photoshop clone, pasted in a picture, tried curves, and the text tool. Curves would only show up in the side panel, and it didn't feel like it was making the colors do what they should. Trying to select text after you've typed it makes it disappear. Trying to change the font relied on a dropdown that (unlike PS), doesn't show you what each typeface looks like, and you can't scroll through the dropdown, you just have to manually choose one font at a time.

This ain't it. You're better off with Krita, Gimp, or even Photopea.

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Sanctus 9 points 6 days ago

Holy shit they have a pricing structure? Def gonna catch a lawsuit

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Artisian 8 points 6 days ago

Yayyy! The golden age of AI stealing from companies is here. I could cry.

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FaceDeer 6 points 6 days ago

So all of a sudden hooray for AI, who cares about the water and carbon emissions and "theft" and whatnot?

It was never really about those things in the first place, I'm guessing.

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moth 10 points 6 days ago

moth supposes none of the people here are serious about using the vibed versions, and are only finding amusement at something bad happening to a very shitty corporation.

it's not really different than laughing about MAGA eating each other. just because one might think it's funny senator foghorn leghorn called trump an asshole, doesn't mean one endorses him in any way. sometimes it's just funny to laugh at bad people's misfortune.

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traxex 2 points 5 days ago

Taking from Adobe is morally, ethically, and spiritually not theft.

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moldy_rice 5 points 5 days ago

Why would anyone want to use that slop, when GIMP is right there?

I guess they did it for fun and lulz

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grue 5 points 6 days ago

and released it as OSS

NO THEY FUCKING HAVEN'T! ALL THEY'VE DONE IS PIRATE IT WITH EXTRA STEPS!

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KiwiTB 3 points 6 days ago

Meh I'll skip

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TomMasz 3 points 6 days ago

I downloaded the Illustrator clone, ran it and it looked correct. But I didn't try using it beyond looking at the menus. I can't imagine Adobe won't try to do something about this.

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bashibazouk 2 points 6 days ago

Looks like all the in program AI gen is done in the cloud and the monthly pricing is about credits to that. There is also a web version. Does the suite work disconnected from the internet with or without the AI gen? As someone in print design and production I don't see the magic word I always look for in these alternate tools: Pantone...

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BillionaireStew 2 points 6 days ago
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Malica 1 point 6 days ago
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