Luminous

5 days ago by godot to c/coffee

A cup of one of Luminous’ El Mirador offerings, roasted on September 17th and brewed today with the trusty Aeropress. 12g coffee, 200g water off the boil maybe fifteen seconds, three minute brew, swirl, 30 second wait, plunge.

This coffee was anaerobically cofermented for 130 hours in 200 liter vessels beside 80 liters of “prepared fruit based culture”, so at most 120 liters of coffee cherries. Then, naturally processed.

The finer details of what fruit was used to coferment aren’t listed nor do I think they are important. The listed flavor notes are there, I definitely get red fruit, definitely get lime. But I’ve had weirder coferments. I think this coffee is most notable for its pinpoint perfect body and acidity. Gorgeously rounded, perfectly tart balanced against the expected sweetness of good specialty coffee. I won’t go back to the Aeropress with this one, my two V60 brews of it have been a bit more expressive, it just bursts out of the cup. It was also particularly easy to brew, my first pourover was excellent.

The trade off for lab manufactured perfection is the cost. Luminous has a lot going on, which I’ll talk about in a comment. I initially wondered how much of the cost went into the coffee, but there are some financials on a little card on the box: they paid $31.37 per kilo for these beans, $14.23 in freedom units. If you’re not familiar with coffee prices, that is a whole lot. I paid them $30 plus tax for 200g. I have bought ultra premium coffee for more, but those were halo products or competition coffees, intended to be the very best a roaster can make. This is just what Luminous sells. So is it worth it?

To me, yes. A typical 15g cup is around $2.50 accounting for the filter. Its engineered perfection is not something I’d want every day, but it's a great coffee.

godot 5 points 5 days ago

So, regarding Luminous Coffee the company and not this particular coffee.

Luminous is a micro roaster in Las Vegas. Small team, small lots, small quantities of coffee in each box. I've bought from small roasters before. How different can this one be?

Pretty different, turns out. For one, they only sell coffee for twenty six hours a week, no stocking up orders in advance of a shipping cutoff. You miss it? Wait. I waited. I was immediately curious how the financials on that work, it's typically a good idea to take people's money when it's offered.

Luminous sells coffee in two forms: just the bag or, for $1 more, All the Extras. I intentionally did not look at what that meant. Always pay the one. The box is nice and beautiful; it brings to mind old popcorn boxes. The bag is custom, with a slot for the ID card. Each box included a packet of Third Wave Water, a sachet of instant coffee, a beautiful large sticker, and a piece of candy that I immediately ate. All that stuff is so expensive. I remain curious about the financials.

While eating that candy I was worried. This was far and away the flashiest coffee buying experience I've ever had. Polished presentation often hides mediocre to bad products. But the coffees I bought are top flight. So the maximalism, rather than the root of the brand, is icing on the cake. These are people who are serious about what they're doing, exceptionally good at it, and are so enthusiastic that they want every other element of the experience to be as fantastic as the coffee.

I'm very, very impressed at the intentionality. A lot of good coffee companies are buttoned up and want their coffee to do the talking, which is great. Luminous is loud and happy to be loud. I will absolutely buy from them again.

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Wild_Mastic 2 points 4 days ago

Was not expecting a wild Rhystic Study to appear in a coffee post, but oh well.

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GheeButtersnaps 2 points 5 days ago

Dropping all this money on coffee and still has enough to pay the 1. Sounds like this coffee is a real Game Changer. Thanks for the awesome write up.

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BurntWits 3 points 5 days ago

I just paid $30 CAD for 250g of the bag I posted a couple days ago (Pilot’s Black Moon). I thought that was on the higher end of acceptable. The equivalent of nearly $45 CAD for only 200g is definitely quite steep. It does sound really interesting, though.

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godot 2 points 4 days ago

I haven’t had every coffee in the world but I’ve had enough to know the sorts of coffee you’ve been buying are, in their category, 95% of the way to the best coffee in the world. It’s a more than reasonable place to plant your feet.

The last really big leap is the fruit bomb African natural coffee. The oolong-y washed coffees are in the same price range. I don’t think this coffee is better than those, just different.

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BurntWits 2 points 4 days ago

Hatch was recently selling a TNT Lab Geisha for $85/100g and I was really tempted to try it just because, but decided against it. I’d still be curious to pick it up if they get it again the next time it’s in season. But that’s the most I’ve seen from a roaster in my local-ish area. For the most part, I’m content with my $30/300g bags. I’ve gotten some really excellent bags at that price.

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HeroHelck 3 points 5 days ago

That sounds incredible, but I could not justify dropping that much for 200 grams. Maybe as a splurge.

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godot 5 points 5 days ago

It was tough for me to stomach, too. I like getting a good deal. I've intentionally tried to recontextualize premium coffee not as a good deal relative to other coffee but as a good deal relative to other food and drink, or even other hobbies.

What we pay for food and drink , for taste, is so interesting. I drink about $4 worth of coffee a day and I get an ultra premium experience. Many people spend twice that at Starbucks and get a below average experience. I know people who spend $30 a day on meat and don't think about it or particularity enjoy what they eat. A bottle of a premium champagne is $40 a glass and open wine goes off in a few days.

And even knowing all that, even doing the napkin math, $30 was a lot to my ape brain.

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HeroHelck 3 points 5 days ago

Honestly all good points, i guess mentally i think nothing of dropping almost $3 for a drink from the work commissary (gouging bastards) when im thirsty, but i balk when i have to pay that for a drink i make myself. Even when I buy Tea I try to buy in bulk for a good price per cup.

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kettuli 2 points 4 days ago

The most I’ve paid for coffee beans was 500€/kg and the only way to get it that cheap was to buy the full kg. I mean I’m used to paying extra for extra good coffee but that did sting a bit. Then again it’s less per cup than an average milk drink in an average cafe and I don’t have to put milk into my cup.

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godot 1 point 4 days ago

Wow. What did that buy you? And how does that compare to typical third wave coffee from the same tier of roaster?

My only even vaguely comparable experiences have been top competition coffees in the $35/100g range. They’re definitely a sometimes treat, I don’t think I could drink a kilo fast enough to avoid it going stale.

This prompted me to check my favorite premium local roaster and they’re asking $35 for 50g of a Panamanian Gesha. I’m currently on a purchasing pause but I’d consider it?

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kettuli 1 point 3 days ago

It was some kind of rare specimen which explains the price. But it was/is also delicious and nuanced so I feel like I’ve gotten return for my money. Ot was shipped in 100 g glass jars because that’s how they assumed people would buy it.

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expatriado 3 points 5 days ago

nice, i got an aeropress in 2021 and used it ~10 times a week, still going strong. i brew 40g because the police doesn't know where i live

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godot 1 point 4 days ago

It’s weird how perfectly engineered it is, and so versatile. My desert island brewer for sure.

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tuckerm 3 points 5 days ago

I have never heard of this before, thanks for writing about it. I've never really looked at high-end coffee beans before, but this has got me curious, just to try it once.

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godot 1 point 4 days ago

Obviously I’m biased, but if you’re in this community I think there are good odds you’d enjoy that.

The roaster I best trust in the US is Brandywine. Most roasters have highs and lows. Brandywine, in three or four orders, has been all highs. But many roasters across the world do excellent work.

If you haven’t dialed a coffee in before, some good coffees can be finicky to brew, so it can be good to taste them as sold by the roaster or in a known good cafe. This coffee was not difficult to brew at all, I think a blade grinder and a French press would have been fine.

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dregan 2 points 3 days ago

One of my favorite farms from one of my favorite roasters.

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