Yes, indeed. This is so obvious and my frustration is immeasurable when hearing that people are too ignorant to understand why this is really bad.

I was watching this video this morning, and he points out how these leaks show a pattern of Microsoft basically wanting to buy up all of gaming (I also liked how he called Microsoft’s whole way of think about buying Nintendo as a bit of American imperialism). Folks like their Game Pass and don’t like Nintendo not giving a damn about trends or multiplayer or whatever and just going along doing their own thing, and think it would be a great idea for Microsoft to own them, and…no. Just, no.

This was before ABK, in fact around Zenimax acquisition time. After the excruciating process of ABK's acquisition which also brought us highly costly leak, I think they won't dare to buy a big player for now and no regulator would let that happen given it would be a horizontal acquisition if I understand that correctly.

So, support from Microsoft on Smash tournaments?

They're doing a fine job killing themselves already.

Edit: why are you booing me? I'm right.

im getting really tired of all of these MS acquisitions. I know the nintendo one is very unlikely, but i would be pissed as fuck to see valve swallowed up by this terrifying beast.

Neither should the EU

They misspelled Dwayne Johnson. Hah

And of all the hubris to want to rock up to a company that is over 125 years old and still going strong to tell them you would know better how to run their company than them.

Market cap of Nintendo - 50 billion Market cap of Microsoft - 2.4 trillion

It's really hard for humans to imagine things at that scale, but Microsoft is so many orders of magnitude larger than Nintendo that whatever Microsoft (and other mega tech companies like Apple and Google) does the entire global international finance system feels it.

Sony is worth more than twice as much as Nintendo.

Heck, Sony might be more realistic by comparison, at least their gaming/console parts!

I mean, judging from the quotes, even MS considered it pretty unlikely back when the email is sent.

What's your point? Microsoft is easily several times bigger and is a "noticeable thing" in pretty much every country.

Microsoft is bigger.

Nintendo's market cap is about $56.7 billion.

Microsoft's market cap is $2.44 trillion, with $111 billion worth of cash (not equity, cash) in the bank.

Microsoft is 43 times bigger than Nintendo. They can pay for Nintendo with only cash, if they desire.

These trillion-dollar players are an order of magnitude larger than anyone around them. They can do what they want, same as how Apple ($2.8 trillion) can easily buy Disney ($150.5 billion) if they wished.

This isn't an exact science, but you can use market cap to ballpark these things and get an idea of how much an acquisition would cost. For example, Twitter had a market cap of $31 billion in August 2022, and Elon bought it a few months later for $44 billion. That's a 1.4x increase, so applying the same math buying all of Disney would "only" cost about $214 billion - which both Apple and Microsoft (and Google) could do. Nintendo would cost about $80 billion, which Microsoft could do without even taking out a loan.

The issue isn't necessarily the price; it's the regulators.

Yeah, also they probably have no interest in being bought. I wouldn't worry about what a greedy MS corpo wants in this regard

There will always be a market for consoles. If you buy a game, know for a fact that it works. If you have a PC, it can start to be obsolete, or your graphics card might not be supported, or your OS might not be patched, or....

There will also always be a market for PCs, because you can do things cheaper, and/or better than consoles.

I'd love if they bought Nintendo, it would make me buy Xbox and whatever service I could use on a PC and Xbox. Their psn.

Nintendo suck. Their games get delayed, their consoles are mid. They literally only sell because of Mario and Zelda. That's why they absolutely drip feed that content. The only reason we're getting a new Mario Bros is because they'll announce a new console next year and they can re release it. And charge full whack because they have a captive market.

At least if Microsoft had Mario we'd get regular releases of new Mario games. That's all I want Nintendo for.

Nintendo is publicly traded, it may be the case that the board won't have that much of a say.

This was in 2020 they were thinking this, and it doesn’t seem like Nintendo was interested at all.

Microsoft offered to buy them back in 2000 or something, and got laughed at. Nintendo is not looking to be bought out. Nintendo does things its way and stays in its lane.

I honestly don't have the faintest belief that Nintendo would ever take the deal. Sure they don't diversify their platforms, but they also have the best cut from their platform.

FUCK NO

Why would you even type such a thing?

I would prefer no one bought Nintendo and they kept on doing what they do. They’ve been around for over 125 and you can still buy the hanafuda playing cards they started out making, so I’m pretty sure they know what they’re doing.

I can't wait for yearly Nintendo console releases with merely cosmetic changes at $1500 price points and breaking OS changes that prevent you using games you bought two years prior!

And give Microsoft even more of a monopoly?

Bro did Nintendo fuck your wife or something?