Decolonization is not a metaphor

3 years ago by diegeticscream [all] to c/memes

muad_dibber 46 points 3 years ago

"Oh, so you support the warsaw uprising???? They're terrorists!! What about all those innocent german families killed!"

So much colonizer seething this week.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 14 points 3 years ago

Obligatory reminder that Germans were killing 100 random Poles for every killed German even before the Uprising. Yet that didn't stopped the active partisans, even those moderate and currently acceptable ones of AK.

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WhatWouldKarlDo 42 points 3 years ago path: 0 4371793, hotness: undefined, score: 42, children: 0
201dberg 33 points 3 years ago

Yes. Next question please.

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HiddenLayer5 14 points 3 years ago

Highly recommend reading the Red Deal, which is written by Indigenous socialists on what they think decolonisation should entail.

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simply_surprise 9 points 3 years ago

I've got a copy! @redtea and I talked about it a bit when we were trying a book club.

I thought it had some good points, but I was disappointed in some bits.

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HiddenLayer5 8 points 3 years ago

Just curious, what were you disappointed about?

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simply_surprise 11 points 3 years ago

It's probably not a big deal, but I felt like it could've been more radical?

They spent some time lionizing the Green New Deal as a good thing, time talking about what's wrong with the current system (good), how those problems can be addressed (good), but not how we get from now to being able to address the problems.

Like, maybe I need some self-crit as a violence fetishist or something, but I don't think they really addressed the necessity for armed struggle.

I guess the book's not really meant for that, and maybe it's meant more as an introduction to decolonization for people who'd be turned off by the idea of armed struggle.

Idk, I read "Revolution in the Revolution" right before, so that probably colors my perception of it. Maybe I need a re-read!

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QueerCommie 9 points 3 years ago

I’m pretty sure it wasn’t meant to be too radical. It was meant to draw sunshine and DSA types, and then the further reading it references are supposed to be more radical. That’s what they said on Marx Madness anyway. The further reading being ‘red nation rising,’ ‘our history is the future,’ and the one Bolivian decolonization agreement they mention.

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HiddenLayer5 6 points 3 years ago

Interesting. Thanks for your perspective!

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rapsodo_cercasi -10 points 3 years ago

Killing civilians is just wrong on many aspects: • Often civilians have no choice on the handling of political affairs (unless they directly voted for the fucking war in a community council; and, mind you, 1853 USA wasn't a direct democracy, nor Israel is today. Today's governments are further from a democracy than ever, considering) • Waste of resources, they should be organizing to fight actual forces; this will just radicalize both parties and it won't bring a peaceful resolution

Should we just kill immigrants that come in our countries then? Or should we make fucking segregation part 2? Or maybe don't you think that promoting is just the best way to get to live like decent humans together independently from ethnicity? No, let's just behave like those nationalist monkeys of the 19th century

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simply_surprise 6 points 3 years ago

Killing civilians is just wrong on many aspects: • Often civilians have no choice on the handling of political affairs.

Do you agree that the bombing of Hiroshima was a war crime?

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rapsodo_cercasi 5 points 3 years ago

Yes

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Sanctus -14 points 3 years ago

You see, humanity lives in a perpetual cycle of "fuck-around" and "find-out". When your population is well taken care of, and your country is boasting a strong military, its all good to swang that big dick and disrespect your surroundings. They're big boi, they can handle themselves, and they can especially handle all those pesky people living on the land you want. So they get cocky, bold, and brazen. This ends the fuck-around cycle, and a new cycle begins. The oppressed decide they don't care if they live or die, they have a shit life, so they're going to bring down the ones causing this. They retaliate in horrific ways. Afterwards, everyone forgets when they come into power, thus starting the cycle again.

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American_Communist22 29 points 3 years ago

That is simplifying humanity at an extreme level

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Sanctus -25 points 3 years ago

Class is in session tomorrow if you need the details over the gist.

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yearningforfreedom 22 points 3 years ago

No one here is trying go to your Walmart parking lot lectures

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ComradeChairmanKGB 21 points 3 years ago

Walmart University presents, entry level history with guest lecturer Sanctus, dropping the newest lib theory.

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Shinhoshi 7 points 3 years ago

It’s tomorrow. Please go read some Marxist theory before you hold a class.

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DankZedong 22 points 3 years ago

Bruh go outside and touch grass lmao

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kig_v2 10 points 3 years ago

Swang that big dick, disrespect your surroundings...underrated kanye bars

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Valbrandur 6 points 3 years ago

You see, humanity lives in a perpetual cycle of “fuck-around” and “find-out”

Promoting itself to redditors as an alternative to Reddit was Lemmy's greatest mistake.

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Sanctus -2 points 3 years ago

K

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QueerCommie 6 points 3 years ago

New theory about the whole structure of human history based on like two observations

Idealism much?

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Sanctus -2 points 3 years ago

You circled around to make this comment after replying below. Its not idealist, one whose conduct or thinking is influenced by ideals that often conflict with practical considerations. If anything my statement was too practical for your liking and thats why you've felt the need to dog pile. Idealism would be claiming humans can live in perpetual peace if they just stop fighting, that is something that ignores the practical considerations of a societal situation.

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QueerCommie 4 points 3 years ago

All I’m saying is it’s stupid to actually think “ humanity lives in a perpetual cycle of “fuck-around” and “find-out”.” maybe it was a joke, but I don’t find it funny.

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Sanctus 1 point 3 years ago

Its fine, lemmygrad doesnt find me funny. But we do live in a perpetual cycle of suffering. Its pretty evident just living in the world. I don't see what is stupid about that. Look at the world we made, with the technology we have we could have done much more than chase the dragon of infinite profits. But yeah you're right its stupid. So stupid to think that.

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