YSK: If you make popcorn in a pot on the stove, the oil to use is ghee.

3 years ago by fubo to c/youshouldknow

Why YSK: Popcorn fans often want a buttery flavor, but plain butter is a bad choice for popping popcorn in a pot, because the proteins and sugars smoke and burn around the same temperature where it's hot enough to pop the kernels.

Ghee, or Indian-style clarified butter, is butter that's been simmered and the milk solids (proteins and sugars) skimmed off. This leaves a clear yellow oil that doesn't smoke when it's heated and doesn't go rancid quickly, but has a distinct toasty butter flavor.

Vegetable oil is either flavorless or faintly bitter, and some high-temperature vegetable oils tend to start polymerizing (i.e. becoming plastic) when heated in small amounts. This is also not good for popcorn.

Good-quality popcorn popped in ghee reliably produces lots of "butterfly" popcorn with few unpopped "duds" and no scorched kernels or batches ruined by smoke.

Try it! I'm sure not going back to canola oil.

lnm225 39 points 3 years ago

smacks forehead

That is a great idea! Coconut oil was ok,but kinda odd-flavored for popcorn ...

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acupofcoffee 13 points 3 years ago

Since ghee is so expensive, I usually do coconut oil and ghee mixed!

I love ghee on my stovetop popcorn! A wok works great!

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deviant 10 points 3 years ago

Dude, my mom makes ghee out of milk. It costs literally nothing

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BaroqueInMind 13 points 3 years ago

That's not true because you still have to buy the milk.

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Fondots 34 points 3 years ago

Not if you're a mom 😉

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xuxebiko 7 points 3 years ago

to make ghee at home costs lots of milk, time, and effort. Try making ghee yourself from cratch and you'll know exactly how much it really costs.

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blueskiesoc 7 points 3 years ago

Go to youtube and watch how to make ghee. It's quite simple. I use butter to make mine. I won't buy expensive storebought again because it's so cheap and simple to make.

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fireweed 1 point 3 years ago

If you have access to Costco, they sell huge tubs of ghee for a way, way better value than the tiny containers you'd find at the grocery store. Ghee has a pretty good shelf life, however I divide my Costco tub up into smaller containers and freeze what I don't plan on using within a few months, to extend the shelf life further.

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rDrDr 1 point 3 years ago

Sorry for the hijack, but the post I see above this comment is some baseball scores. Twins @ Braves. Using Lemmy.world in a web browser. What's going on?

This is the URL: https://lemmy.world/...

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minimar 7 points 3 years ago

It's another websocket related bug that's already been fixed! lemmy.world is currently out of date, however. If you want to get rid of it, either wait for Ruud to push the update, or switch instances.

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blueskiesoc 6 points 3 years ago

It's a bot. I kept getting it too and there are identical ones for other teams.

Here's how I blocked it. Click on the community listed next to the (bot) username. Then on that page block the community. It should be on the upper part on the right close to where it says join the community.

I had like three bot baseball communities that I blocked.

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half 25 points 3 years ago

Avocado oil is great for popcorn. It doesn't add any flavor but I love the resulting texture: very crisp and clean. I like using red or blue corn because the contrast is visually appealing. You want long, skinny kernels to get the butterfly popcorn. Personally I'm crazy for cheesy popcorn, and the secret there is to find cheese powder with some savory herbs like oregano. I also love to do it with Kashmiri (floral hot Indian chili) powder.

Important edit: Do NOT under any circumstance use chili popcorn to spice up Netflix & Chill. This is a snack for lonely degenerates who don't even masturbate daily any more. It's for watching war documentaries and French New Wave, not pervy cartoons and superhero throwdowns with plot designed to be ignored while you finger your frenemies. You won't look worldly and sophisticated while you're driving somebody to the fucking hospital. Be responsible.

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Tot 5 points 3 years ago

Burlap and barrel has a black lime and a black urfa chili that are just fantastic on popcorn.

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pancakesyrupyum 3 points 3 years ago

Asking your would-be date if they want to Burlap & Barrel just doesn’t quite have the same ring to it…

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galaxi 4 points 3 years ago

Someone's speaking from experience..

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MercuryUprising 2 points 3 years ago

You can also get brewers yeast

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mynona 14 points 3 years ago

Olive oil here. The market nearby doesn't sell canola oil because it was never popular. MSG is also great on popcorn.

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postscarce 8 points 3 years ago

Nutritional yeast is also amazing. Gives it a cheesy flavor, and it's healthy to boot!

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rankshank 7 points 3 years ago

Nutritional yeast, chicken salt, and ghee for the oil is my go to. Absolutely delicious.

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niktemadur 5 points 3 years ago

I second that comment.

It's been about two decades since I've gone there, but the Landmark Cinemas in the San Diego area had nutritional yeast for your popcorn, right there in the station where you pump your own butter and grab napkins. Curious, I gave it a try...

For the past twenty years (give or take), a can of Bragg's Nutritional Yeast has been an ever-present staple in the kitchen, which I use to season popcorn, as well as slightly charred tortillas with either butter or avocado.

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Cthulhu -1 points 3 years ago

Olive oil has a very distinct olive flavour and is generally not advised to heat up to much, since it gets carcinogenic

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nihilist_hippie 14 points 3 years ago

Ghee sounds awesome for popcorn! I use refined coconut oil and Flavacol at the moment.

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clueless_stoner 4 points 3 years ago

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nihilist_hippie 8 points 3 years ago

You must use refined coconut oil. As long as it is refined, there is no coconut flavor. It basically just tastes like theatre popcorn, because that's what they use. They just use a fancier version that has beta-carotene in it, for a nice yellow coloring.

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capt_wolf 2 points 3 years ago

Man, I could definitely go for regular coconut flavor on popcorn though! Toss in some dehydrated pineapple bits...

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WetBeardHairs 2 points 3 years ago

Oh that sounds great. If you want to get real fancy, toss in some coconut shreds and toasted walnut pieces. Dang I know what I'm doing for my next movie night. My popcorn popper hasn't been used in a few months.

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zzzz 2 points 3 years ago

They just use a fancier version that has beta-carotene in it, for a nice yellow coloring.

So, that's why it's so expensive!

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Chobbes 1 point 3 years ago

I really like unrefined coconut oil for popcorn. It’s not a super strong coconut flavour at all, but it adds a nice subtle complexity to the popcorn. Definitely worth trying if it’s what you have on hand anyway :). I prefer it, even!

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poejreed 12 points 3 years ago

Also, as far as i know, you can buy the same seasoning they put on the popcorn at the theaters. Its called flavacol.

Also, beware of bagged popcorn a lot of the bags contain PFAS, which is supposedly bad for you.

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RalphTheDog 2 points 3 years ago

As I mentioned in a comment above, I have one of those theater poppers. But in those, the flavacol goes into the hopper right along with the kernels and your oil of choice. It's not an oil substitute. It's good stuff, but hard to find in less than 5-pound boxes.

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Dark_Blade 11 points 3 years ago

…holy shit you’re a genius.

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justhach 24 points 3 years ago

**gheenius

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dojan 7 points 3 years ago

Ugh. That was so bad. I love that for you.

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OsakaWilson 10 points 3 years ago

We use non-virgin olive oil. High smoke point, but good flavor.

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lolola 10 points 3 years ago

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ohmyiv 12 points 3 years ago

Oil and artificial flavors. I've tried a lot of them and none of them have a "real" butter flavor. It's more of a greasy feel than taste.

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lolola 2 points 3 years ago

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KreekyBonez 7 points 3 years ago

soybean oil, usually. and diacetyl can be added as a buttery flavoring.

fun fact: diacetyl inhaled in large enough doses can cause bronchitis. this was a problem in popcorn topping factories, hence the term "popcorn lung"

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Overzeetop 9 points 3 years ago

That’s great and all, but if any discussion about popcorn on the stove doesn’t involve Flavicol, it’s simply incomplete.

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tanin 9 points 3 years ago

I've always just used avocado oil. Sometimes coconut oil but that obviously leaves a faint hint of coconut that not everyone likes. I'll try ghee next time but I never heard of anyone trying to make pop corn with just butter in the pan. That sounds like a mistake folks only make once! lol

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RalphTheDog 2 points 3 years ago

The makers of my commercial-grade popper recommend coconut oil. Like you, I am interested in trying ghee. It's good to just have a bottle of that stuff handy for lots of things.

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Stabbywithsocks1 4 points 3 years ago

I think ghee is clarified butter.

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themeatbridge 4 points 3 years ago

They are pretty much the same thing. Clarified butter can be skimmed as soon as the milk solids begin to separate. Ghee is cooked until the solids become browned and settle to the bottom, giving it more of a nutty flavor.

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thesalamander 9 points 3 years ago

Never tried Ghee. I usually use canola, coconut, or bacon grease. I'm up for more buttery flavor though. Thanks!

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metalcheems 4 points 3 years ago

Bacon grease sounds incredible. How much of the flavor ends up in the popcorn?

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thesalamander 5 points 3 years ago

It's subtle, but I only use just enough to pop the kernels. I also have a jar of it by the stove most of the time.

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minimar 2 points 3 years ago

Sounds a bit like that bacon popcorn...

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jakwithoutac 8 points 3 years ago

For any dairy intolerant or vegan people here you can get a similar effect by clarifying a vegetable spread like Flora and adding salt until it tastes ‘buttery’ enough for you

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smokedtofu 5 points 3 years ago

Exactly. And don't use the vegan butter to pop the corn, just use some neutral vegetable oil like rapeseed oil there. After the corns have popped, just melt the vegan butter in a pan and drip it over your popcorn.

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Tetractys 5 points 3 years ago

Peanut Oil is the answer. High smoke point, taste negligible.

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fubo 5 points 3 years ago

Not buttery
Although it probably doesn't kill the housemate with the peanut allergy, it makes them very uncomfortable and possibly costs them a significant medical bill.

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peepquinox 2 points 3 years ago

Should note that refined peanut oil will not cause allergic reactions in the majority of peanut allergy sufferers (although it really isn’t worth risking).

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Tetractys 2 points 3 years ago

I add butter back into the pot after popping to melt (add flavours), then pour on popcorn.

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elrac 5 points 3 years ago

I tried ghee, it tasted awful. Butter flavored coconut oil is where it's at.

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seth 5 points 3 years ago

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maajmaaj 3 points 3 years ago

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obi_one 4 points 3 years ago

I use bacon grease.

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_MoveSwiftly 4 points 3 years ago

Hello.

Could you please add a "Why YSK:" to your post? It's rule #2. :)

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fubo 2 points 3 years ago

Fixed.

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Doodoocaca 3 points 3 years ago

Ghee is not an oil. Other than that I agree.

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zzzz 4 points 3 years ago

You mean you aghee? I'll show myself out.

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ghost_of_snowflake 3 points 3 years ago

Interesting, I'll try that out.

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JusticeForPorygon 3 points 3 years ago

Coconut oil

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parmesancrabs 3 points 3 years ago

After reading this post a few days back, I was inspired to get some Ghee and try it out. Absolutely delicious, thank you @fubo@lemmy.world!

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Amro 3 points 3 years ago

@fubo
I agree. Ghee is very nice for popcorn. And for everyone who isn't into milk products, vegetable ghee has the same qualities and flavor profile.

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xuxebiko 2 points 3 years ago

what is vegetable ghee?

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Amro 1 point 3 years ago

@xuxebiko https://roshnisanghvi.com/...
Next time use a search engine of your choice

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xuxebiko 1 point 3 years ago

None of them are ghee. They're all interesterified vegetable fat/ oils with ghee flavour added calling themselves "vegan ghee" to con the gulllible.

There's no harm in being vegan, but it is foolish to fall for unhealthy products because they brand themelves as vegan/ vegetable-based.
Stick to vegetable oils but ffs don't call them ghee.

Interesterified oils increase heart-disease risk by lowering HDL (good) cholesterol and raising LDL (bad) cholesterol, (like trans fats do). And they increase the risk of type 2 diabetes by raising fasting blood-glucose levels and decreasing insulin response. They also increase liver cellular stress markers.

Look up the effects of interesterified vegetable fat/ oils on a search engine of your choice and then read their labels before recommending them.

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Amro 1 point 3 years ago

@xuxebiko
I'm no expert in these matters. But I can't imagine ghee (clarified butter) being very healthy either in large quantities. If you are vegan (which I'm not) this a way to taste the op's popcorn suggestion. I get the feeling you already had an opinion on the whole ghee/fake vegan ghee thing. And al I can say is, in the Indian cuisine, with a relatively large vegan population, fake ghee is a thing. Not some hipster hype.
This was about taste and cooking. Not about health.
@fubo

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johng 2 points 3 years ago

I'll give this a try. At my theater we use peanut oil because we are a small single screener and don't need to pinch every penny and use flavicol or something else less natural. It tastes good to me though I am peanut intolerant (not a major allergy but it upsets my digestive system, which upsets those around me).

At home, corn oil is my go-to as I am just cooking corn in corn and then melt some butter and salt the butter and toss the popcorn with it to get it evenly coated.

One other trick we do at the theater and you might be able get your place to do is when they add 'butter flavoring' is to ask them to half full the bag, pump some on, shake up the bag, add the rest of the popcorn and add more flavoring. It makes the bottom levels of popcorn more consistent with flavor.

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fubo 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, but fake butter flavor is unpleasant to me.

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tdawg 2 points 3 years ago

yall are burning your butter?

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maajmaaj 2 points 3 years ago

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Takina_sOldPairTM 2 points 3 years ago

Is this a protip to make popcorn more enjoyable when Reddit goes to shit on the 1st of July? 😅

So store bought ready to pop microwaveable "buttered" popcorn is not with ghee, right?

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ohmyiv 2 points 3 years ago

No, it's not made with ghee. Microwave popcorn "butter" is typically artificially flavored oil.

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Salad_Fries 2 points 3 years ago

And if youre a terrible cook (like me), throwing the kernals in a paper lunch bag & throwing it in the microwave for 3 minutes makes perfect popcorn (and does so without covering your kitchen in oil splatter/ annoying your neighbors with smoke detectors going off.)

Lol sorry. Thanks for the ghee suggestion! It sounds awesome & im excited to try it!

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alekwithak 3 points 3 years ago

I'm sorry, what now??

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Texas_Hangover 2 points 3 years ago

Sounds like a roll-your-own microwave popcorn bag. Intriguing.

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surrendertogravity 2 points 3 years ago

Oh, that’s brilliant! We got a whirly-pop last Christmas and have just been using generic vegetable oil but it definitely doesn’t improve the taste any. Looking forward to trying this.

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surrendertogravity 1 point 3 years ago

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ArugulaZ 1 point 3 years ago

"Ghee!"
"No, Ghee-T-E."
(that's not how it's pronounced.)
(Silence!)

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SMT42 1 point 3 years ago

Opinions on using olive oil for popcorn?

I know the smoke point isn't the highest, but it tastes good!

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surrendertogravity 1 point 3 years ago

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postscarce 1 point 3 years ago

I prefer to airpop it in the microwave and then spritz EVOO (extra virgin olive oil) on afterwards. EVOO is delicious, and unrefined oils like EVOO retain more flavor if you don't heat them.

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surrendertogravity 1 point 3 years ago

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fuwa 1 point 3 years ago

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surrendertogravity 1 point 3 years ago

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Schluchtschiss -6 points 3 years ago

wait how can it be indian butter I thought they don't exploit cows there

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ShakeThatYam 23 points 3 years ago

No, most Indians aren't vegan, just vegetarian. They just don't kill cows (and this isn't universal, some areas don't care).

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JuletEsqu 7 points 3 years ago

But I thought Indians were a monolith

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odium 2 points 3 years ago

They just don't eat beef (except some locations), but they use a lot of dairy products.

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Deceptichum -1 points 3 years ago

They just leave them to suffer of malnutrition and disease in the streets. Good thing they don’t exploit them!

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toxicbubble -9 points 3 years ago

YSK: Cows are raped & slaughtered for butter

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ZaroniPepperoni 11 points 3 years ago

YSK: I did not ask

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Neb 10 points 3 years ago

explain

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ipha 8 points 3 years ago

In order for a cow to produce milk it must be pregnant or recently pregnant, then once it gets older and starts producing less milk it will be slaughtered.

~~the more you know!~~

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Neb 12 points 3 years ago

is - in your opinion - artificial insemination equal to rape?

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ipha 2 points 3 years ago

no.

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Jon-H558 1 point 3 years ago

also male calves are slaughtered

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NotAPenguin 0 points 3 years ago

Female cows are forcefully impregnated so they produce milk, their children are taken away as soon as they're born, if the calf is boy he will be killed for veal, if it's a girl she will go through the same thing her mother did and then she's killed when she can no longer spit out children and milk.

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xuxebiko 1 point 3 years ago

butter is made from raped & dead cows?

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meat_popsicle 1 point 3 years ago

Cows can be raped?

Do we send cow rapists to cow jail? If a cow is in a field with a bull, do we arrest the bull pre- or post- mount?

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Jon-H558 1 point 3 years ago

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NotAPenguin -13 points 3 years ago

Come the fuck on buddy, obviously they are talking about humans forcefully impregnating cows to force them to produce milk.

Humans have the capability to understand the consequences of our actions, other animals don't.

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Doodoocaca 1 point 3 years ago

By the way you're talking here I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about. Have you ever seen a cow be inseminated? Nothing about it is forceful. They don't give a flying fuck. They stand there and eat while a guy artificially inseminates them and they don't react at all. They do not care.

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meat_popsicle 1 point 3 years ago

So, cows aren’t actually being raped? I’m so confused.

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xuxebiko 0 points 3 years ago

why are you minimizing rape & sexual assault?

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NotAPenguin -6 points 3 years ago

Being against sexual assault of cows minimizes it how?

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xuxebiko 1 point 3 years ago

By equating artificial insemination in cattle to rape.

You're just using shock tactics to garner attention. Do you even care about how your minimization affects rape & sex assualt survivors?

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NotAPenguin -1 points 3 years ago

Sexually assaulting cows is bad just as sexually assaulting people is bad, no minimizing.

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NotAPenguin -19 points 3 years ago

Even on the fediverse people absolutely refuse to hear about the animal abuse they support everyday..

Come the fuck on people, stop being reactionary and think about it for a minute.

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xuxebiko 1 point 3 years ago

plants scream when cut.

source : https://www.sciencealert.com/...

Please commence arguments about plant abuse.

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Dangdoggo -12 points 3 years ago

The point is to be conscious about the shit you're eating and where it comes from, not to demonize butter or animal products on the whole. Factory farming is a horrid practice that I don't support but I've worked with local livestock outfits for 15 years and see the care they put into production. Not every pound of butter is wrought on a life of pure suffering, and to reject the fundamental role of death in life's process is just a bizarre and sterile approach to living.

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All posts must begin with YSK. If you're a Mastodon user, then include YSK after @youshouldknow. This is a community to share tips and tricks that will help you improve your life.

Rule 2- Your post body text must include the reason **WHY** YSK:

In your post's text body, you must include the reason "Why" YSK: It’s helpful for readability, and informs readers about the importance of the content.

Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.

Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.

Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.

Rule 6- Regarding non-YSK posts.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-YSK posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.

If you harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

If you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.

For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.

Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.

Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.

Rule 10- The majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.

Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.

Rule 11- Posts must actually be true:

Disinformation, trolling, and being misleading will not be tolerated. Repeated or egregious attempts will earn you a ban. This also applies to filing reports: If you continually file false reports YOU WILL BE BANNED! We can see who reports what, and shenanigans will not be tolerated. We are not here to ban people who said something you don't like.

Rule 12- Linking directly to a video as a source is not acceptable.

Video only posts are responsible for an outsized portion of rules violations. Your post must contain text and meet the requirements of the previous rules.

Rule 13- If you file a report, include what specific rule is being violated and how.

Partnered Communities:

You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.

Community Moderation

For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.

Credits

Our icon(masterpiece) was made by @clen15!

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The rules for posting and commenting, besides the rules defined here for lemmy.world, are as follows:

Rules (interactive)

Rule 1- All posts must begin with YSK.

All posts must begin with YSK. If you're a Mastodon user, then include YSK after @youshouldknow. This is a community to share tips and tricks that will help you improve your life.

Rule 2- Your post body text must include the reason **WHY** YSK:

In your post's text body, you must include the reason "Why" YSK: It’s helpful for readability, and informs readers about the importance of the content.

Rule 3- Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here.

Do not seek mental, medical and professional help here. Breaking this rule will not get you or your post removed, but it will put you at risk, and possibly in danger.

Rule 4- No self promotion or upvote-farming of any kind.

That's it.

Rule 5- No baiting or sealioning or promoting an agenda.

Posts and comments which, instead of being of an innocuous nature, are specifically intended (based on reports and in the opinion of our crack moderation team) to bait users into ideological wars on charged political topics will be removed and the authors warned - or banned - depending on severity.

Rule 6- Regarding non-YSK posts.

Provided it is about the community itself, you may post non-YSK posts using the [META] tag on your post title.

Rule 7- You can't harass or disturb other members.

If you harass or discriminate against any individual member, you will be removed.

If you are a member, sympathizer or a resemblant of a movement that is known to largely hate, mock, discriminate against, and/or want to take lives of a group of people and you were provably vocal about your hate, then you will be banned on sight.

For further explanation, clarification and feedback about this rule, you may follow this link.

Rule 8- All comments should try to stay relevant to their parent content.

Rule 9- Reposts from other platforms are not allowed.

Let everyone have their own content.

Rule 10- The majority of bots aren't allowed to participate here.

Unless included in our Whitelist for Bots, your bot will not be allowed to participate in this community. To have your bot whitelisted, please contact the moderators for a short review.

Rule 11- Posts must actually be true:

Disinformation, trolling, and being misleading will not be tolerated. Repeated or egregious attempts will earn you a ban. This also applies to filing reports: If you continually file false reports YOU WILL BE BANNED! We can see who reports what, and shenanigans will not be tolerated. We are not here to ban people who said something you don't like.

Rule 12- Linking directly to a video as a source is not acceptable.

Video only posts are responsible for an outsized portion of rules violations. Your post must contain text and meet the requirements of the previous rules.

Rule 13- If you file a report, include what specific rule is being violated and how.

Partnered Communities:

You can view our partnered communities list by following this link. To partner with our community and be included, you are free to message the moderators or comment on a pinned post.

Community Moderation

For inquiry on becoming a moderator of this community, you may comment on the pinned post of the time, or simply shoot a message to the current moderators.

Credits

Our icon(masterpiece) was made by @clen15!

go to feed...