Alunyanners 25 points 3 years ago

Communism no iphone, so yes.

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Addfwyn 10 points 3 years ago

Could they? Yes, probably. So could the network providers (which would be more likely and easier). Would they? Ehhh, I feel more likely would be the government trying to mandate surveillance of communications rather than blocking them.

I don't think any company would want to be that overt about trying frankly. While the west is largely not primed for a revolution at this moment, in a hypothetical revoluton I don't think companies would make an overt position like that. It's not like companies would be dismantled overnight normally, they would want to keep existing.

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egonallanon 9 points 3 years ago

I think you'd be more likely to see the state step in and do things like disable Internet traffic if they want to disable large scale communication as we've seen other states do in the past.

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Touching_Grass 4 points 3 years ago

You need a network to communicate.

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Skipper1402 2 points 3 years ago

You are saying that Apple would sabbotage the Network?

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Touching_Grass 5 points 3 years ago

I'm saying whatever the state is would. Its why behind the scene the state is always working overtime to secure its communication networks. If you develop something like tor, you're watched like a hawk. Tor isn't the network. But it provides some tools for anonymity.

I remember an interview with one of its devs who said they were constantly stopped at borders and flights and inspect. Any devices they had were taken in the back and returned.

At one point the dev was put on a no fly list. All attributed to building better anonymity tools.

Apple and any other company do not matter. Its not like these devices are ham radios

This wasn't the dev I remember since it was a male. But here's another example of it happening

https://www.fastcompany.com/...

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ubermeisters 3 points 3 years ago

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Shinhoshi 2 points 3 years ago

Personally, I think massive surveillance by the government is a much better option for them. Apple could cooperate with this (they already do in PRISM, maybe they could hand over data) but this would be much more effective than shutdowns.

Communicate and give away your secrets, comrades, and we’ll be watching, always watching… :fbi-posting:

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inasaba 1 point 3 years ago

There exist apps to create resilient communication networks over Bluetooth. But that requires that a lot of people have them prior to the network going down.

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juchenecromancer 2 points 3 years ago

Thesis: Communism is when no iphone.

Antithesis: Communists are all hypocrites because they use phones

Synthesis: Google is communist

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Shinhoshi 1 point 3 years ago

They could make things more difficult by shutting down Apple services unless you’re on a brand new totally not malware update similar to how they did a shutdown with iOS 11.

They could try to deploy malware with known vulnerabilities if people block updates.

They’d have to be really compelled though, because it would severely damage their reputation and they do like their billions rolling in

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Skipper1402 2 points 3 years ago

Wouldnt a revolution be enough motivation for that?

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Shinhoshi 2 points 3 years ago

Would it?

If Russia did another communist revolution, Apple probably would face more damage in doing anything overtly than they’d gain from just silently participating in PRISM and doing nothing at all.

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Skipper1402 1 point 3 years ago

What if it was the West? Particularly, the USA?

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Shinhoshi 3 points 3 years ago

There’s no way a communist revolution would work in the USA right now so you’re going to need more context in this hypothetical world where a communist revolution has a chance of succeeding.

I wish it were possible to believe otherwise, but history doesn’t seem to support that belief.

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