[PSA] Communities will only show in 'All' of you instance if someone in that instance has searched and subscribed to it.

3 years ago by zinklog to c/freemediaheckyeah

Try to visit other instances and search their interesting communities on your own instance so there is a better federation among all instances.

Subscribing to as many communities as you can would help grow your instance much better.

Biorix 11 points 3 years ago

I'm not sure if I'm doing it correctly, but when I search for other community on other instances, it doesn't show up in the results. I tried the complete URL, the "!", the "!" plus @instance, the name alone. Is there something special to do? Is any user can look for community?

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zinklog 6 points 3 years ago

Anyone can lookup, but if it's a community that's being fetched for the first time, it might take a few seconds. Try to refresh and it should be visible after that.

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Biorix 5 points 3 years ago

That's my understanding, but I'm trying since yesterday and still no results. From Jerboa I succeeded in finding one community, but since then, it looks like I cannot even though I'm on browser right now. edit: is it possible API are overwhelmed by the number of recent requests?

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zinklog 3 points 3 years ago

can you send me the url of the community you're trying to fetch? let me try it on my end.

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Biorix 2 points 3 years ago

Ok I'm seeing it now. It's empty but I assume it takes time to load. Thanks!

Any Idea on why I couldn't do it myself?

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Biorix 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 95795 95837 95948 95980 95990, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 2
sedawk 8 points 3 years ago

How do I do that from Jerboa?

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zinklog 10 points 3 years ago

Unfortunately I don't this is possible yet through Jerboa, will have to open the instance through browser.

Hopefully they fix it soon.

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Adverse 8 points 3 years ago

did r/piracy announced their Lemmy Instance?

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zinklog 8 points 3 years ago path: 0 103917 103947, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
danc4498 6 points 3 years ago

Hmm, so if I created a new instance, it would be in my best interest to go to a bunch of other instances and create an account and subscribe to my other instance.

Is that a recommended technique?

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darkstar 2 points 3 years ago

This is also a question I'd love to know the answer to

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Lord_Nikon 5 points 3 years ago path: 0 103106, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
pefak 5 points 3 years ago

How can we view NSFW communities from this instance? I tried but was unsuccessful. (I already ticked the box to allow NSFW in settings)

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zinklog 2 points 3 years ago

I can view those communities just fine, can you elaborate where the issue is ?

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pefak 4 points 3 years ago

Sure.

For example, I try to see !gonewild@lemmynsfw.com. If I go directly there I won't be able to see anything because I'm not logged in. If I try to search for "!gonewild@lemmynsfw.com" in the communities tab in the FMHY instance I get no results. I also tried this from the lemmy.ml instance where I also have another account.

The only solution I see is to create an account on the NSFW instance.

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zinklog 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 95777 95806 95985 96158, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 4
pefak 3 points 3 years ago

Thanks, just trying to get used to using Lemmy as a non-tech savvy guy.

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pistachio 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 95777 95806 95985 96158 142354, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
solitude 1 point 3 years ago

I think when you initially search, it'll only be searching "Communities" (look towards the upper left, under the word "Search", at the drop-down tab menu). Change that to "all" and it should repopulate below. Click on the link which has the "...NameOfCommunity... - ## subscribers" formatting, and it should take you to the screen where you can subscribe to the community to the upper right.

I would think searching with the "Communities" in the tab would work, but I'm guessing that means communities which are only in the community or instance that you are currently in. I hope that makes sense.

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pefak 2 points 3 years ago

It makes sense. Thanks. And I've been able to find almost everything I'm looking for but I still find some issues while searching for newer communities.

For example, I'm looking to subscribe to the blackmetal community from lemmy.ml, I cannot find it under the FMHY instance, but I could find it with my account at the lemmy.ml instance.

Probably I'm doing something wrong, or maybe the servers are saturated.

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huckleberry 1 point 3 years ago

@pefak

@zinklog
So what I'm seeing is there is a compatibility issue with the '!' of the Lemmy instance. From fedia.io I can search for Lemmy communities if I drop the '!' from the beginning of the community name.

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akrz 4 points 3 years ago

This federation concept does not work as expected for me. If I understand correctly, I can access a community from mastodon, kbin and others. But In practice I get a lot of 404 errors.

For example, I want to access https://kbin.social/m/tech from lemmy. So I could access it by going to https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/c/tech@kbin.social, right? But I just get a "404: couldnt_find_community" error message.

Also the search functionality seems really broken when you want to search a community from another instance, sometimes it's in the results and sometimes it's not. Is there a cache of some kind or a really long delay when a community is new?

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401klaser 2 points 3 years ago

kbin is having some issues with the influx of new users. will all smooth out over the coming days / weeks as servers scale and stabilize

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2muchcaffeine4u 1 point 3 years ago

I'm having this exact same experience. At least I know it's not me. I'm having it with links not associated with Kbin too, so that isn't the entire problem.

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zinklog 1 point 3 years ago

I'm not 100% sure but I think as of now kbin users can view lemmy instances, but lemmy users can't see kbin posts.

Unfortunate but hopefully they implement the feature soon.

As for search, yeah if a community is being fetched for the first time in any instance, it takes a few seconds to fetch all the info. Subsequent times search will show it instant as its already stored in local dB.

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akrz 1 point 3 years ago

I'm surprised that no one made a bot that auto federate the instances, that would fix the search being wonky. But I guess we are in the early days.

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Spellbind0127 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 93698, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
SSUPII 3 points 3 years ago

Rephrasing. If I will post/subscribe to a community hosted on another instance, will make every other user be able to find that community via Search in All if its not?

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zinklog 5 points 3 years ago

Search only needs to happen the first time, if you're posting or subscribed to a community hosted on another instance, every user on your instance will be able to see it in All automatically.

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gravistar 3 points 3 years ago

So if something were to happen to fmhy.ml and it went offline down the road. Is there a way to backup all our current subscriptions if we need to instance hop? Would be kinda annoying to hunt down all those communities again.

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Kaizen 2 points 3 years ago

Currently exporting and importing subscriptions is not a feature on lemmy, which does make migration more tedious. I hope they do add it in the future. As for whether or not our instance will go offline, I do not see it happening for any particular reason right now.

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gravistar 1 point 3 years ago

Ah ok good to know. Glad I wasn't just missing something.

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2muchcaffeine4u 2 points 3 years ago

When I go to the instance startrek.website, I get told that I'm not logged in anymore and that I need to make a new account. I did that, and then I couldn't see this instance anymore. Does this mean that startrek.website is not "federated"? Having trouble understanding all of this. Everyone keeps saying that it doesn't matter what instance you make your account on, but my first attempt at specifically going to a new instance is showing me otherwise?

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zinklog 9 points 3 years ago

Think of each instance like a mini-reddit all on it's own, you'll need to make a seperate account if you jump to another instance.

The neat is that you don't need to do that, any instance can view and engage with the content of another instance, so for example https://lemmy.fmhy.ml/c/startrek@startrek.website is how you will visit the community on startrek.website through fmhy.ml.

This might be confusing at first, but just remember that since you have made an account on lemm.fmhy.ml, every community you browse should be through this this instance. Hope that cleared some things up. You are welcome to ask if you have any further questions though, I know this isn't the most intutive. (I've also collected some guides you might want to skim through)

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2muchcaffeine4u 4 points 3 years ago

Thank you! Even just seeing the url format helps me understand the relationship a lot better.

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Bear83170 2 points 3 years ago

That was really handy, thank you. It was confusing at first but you made it way easier.

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imkmiaw 3 points 3 years ago

To add to the reply that was already given to you, I just want to let you know:

When I go to the instance startrek.website, I get told that I'm not logged in anymore and that I need to make a new account.

Someone is working on a browser extension so this can get fixed, even if it's just a temporary fix. So when this is created there will be no need for you to paste the link manually.

Since this is basically the inception of Lemmy we just have to be a little patient so Lemmy gets its right footing and they implement all the necessary features.

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chronosphere 1 point 3 years ago

After you add a community from another instance, is it normal for the posts to appear here, but not the comments? Do only comments made after adding the community show up?

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