Refrigeration chemicals are a nightmare for the climate. Experts say alternatives must spread fast

3 years ago by Lee Duna to c/environment

Refrigerants are chemical fluids that have made air conditioning and refrigeration possible, but they are hundreds or even thousands of times more powerful at warming the planet than carbon dioxide, the most notorious greenhouse gas.
aelwero 11 points 3 years ago

Propane is an absolute badass refrigerant in a car AC system... Works way better, pollutes less... People just have issues with the whole explosion thing.

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oroboros 6 points 3 years ago

I'll tell you w'hut

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MBZzZzZzZz 4 points 3 years ago

That boy ain't right.

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Jakor 1 point 3 years ago

CO2/R744 is the way if you can source the components!

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MyEdgyAlt 1 point 3 years ago

Isn’t R744 equipment much more expensive? The pressures are higher?

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Jakor 1 point 3 years ago

They’re expensive mostly market availability of components is still lacking, but it improves by the day.

Much higher pressures - relief valves up to 1740psi on transcritical systems. It sounds scary, but working on a CO2 system is SO much easier imo.

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Sofsip 1 point 3 years ago

R290?

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mihnt 7 points 3 years ago
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Jakor 8 points 3 years ago

Well the silver lining here is those phased out refrigerants are increasingly expensive to purchase, since they don’t make it anymore.

Haven’t read the article yet to see if they cover this, but the AIM act just went into affect in the US, which ramps up the phaseout of R-134a and some others. Now we just need to stop DuPont from creating more of those HFOs that are shown to break down into forever chemicals…

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mihnt 4 points 3 years ago
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