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oDDmON 75 points 3 years ago

All this robustness, yet the buying power of my $$ is less than it was in January, prices continue to spiral and there’s seemingly no end in sight. 🤷🏻‍♂️

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MooseLad 47 points 3 years ago

Don't forget that no one wants to work anymore and all of the "completely necessary" layoffs this year.

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 17 points 3 years ago

30% of my company got laid off three weeks ago.

I'm sure their opinion of the economy doesn't match "reality."

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Bakkoda 2 points 3 years ago

Congratulations to your business for figuring out exactly who didn't want to work and allowing them to leave. Really great stuff to see.

/s

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Wogi 19 points 3 years ago

Those two things are related.

The market is a measure of how much money can be squeezed out of the working class, prices go up, you have to spend more. You spend more, and people with almost all the money make a little more.

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LudwigvanBeethoven -3 points 3 years ago

As a Hungarian, I must unpolitely ask you to not complain about 3,7% inflation while other places have 16%. To us, the economy of North–West Europe and the US look like absolute miracles.

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Starglasses 12 points 3 years ago
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LudwigvanBeethoven -1 points 3 years ago

sorry, but minor inflation doesn't come across as suffering to me? Not challenging you, but if you can provide me with concrete examples I might just realise how probably stupid I am.

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Starglasses 5 points 3 years ago
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ZombieTheZombieCat 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 4833593 4834325 4839762 4851258 4855410, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
EatATaco -15 points 3 years ago

yet the buying power of my $$ is less than it was in January,

Weve only had one or two points of deflation since the 1950s, so this is basically always true.

prices continue to spiral

What does this even mean? While inflation is still higher than target rates, it's well down from the peak.

Your whole post just reads as empty parroting of banal talking points. I'm not suggesting you aren't struggling, but your personal experience does not seem to reflect the reality of how people in the us are spending.

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Shadywack 11 points 3 years ago

Well if it's banal and repetitive, it may due to it being common. Parroting maybe, but I will say that the personal experience of many people seems to coincide with the confidence figures being in the red. People are spending more, and the economy is growing. What seems to be happening is further concentration of wealth to fewer people with less social mobility.

Or one way, yeah we're spending more, and it fucking sucks because we the consumer doesn't get anything else for it. We just get to continue existing, but with less savings and a smaller retirement. Smaller retirement for those who even have one, that is.

Maybe if you weren't parroting the same old insipid bootlicker trope, you wouldn't find remarks about unhappiness with this economic growth banal.

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EatATaco -3 points 3 years ago

Let it be noted that you didn't even answer the question, avoided the point, put words in my mouth, and then pulled out the tired trope of "bootlicker." It's embarrassing how often that dumb ad hominem is pulled out whenever a weak point is challenged.

I get that it sucks for some people. There is no doubt. But the general sentiment and the behavior of people is not lining up, and your claims (which you didn't actually expand on when asked about it) are not reflective of reality. It just seems like you are living in a dream world, I apologize for living in the real one.

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Shadywack 3 points 3 years ago

I wasn't answering any question, just calling out your rather weak scab-ass statement that boils it down to "sucks for you, but times are good, just get with it"

At least you acknowledged that you made a weak point that got challenged, but you sure seem salty and defensive for being called a bootlicker. That's fine though, keep those rich toes in your mouth and just suckle their foot-sweat for your existence.

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circuitfarmer 21 points 3 years ago

Smoke and mirrors. The average American can point to no improvements in their daily lives. My dollar buys less every day, my wages stagnate, but hey, corporations are using inflation to claim year-over-year growth, so I guess that's good news for shareholders?

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NocturnalMorning 16 points 3 years ago

The climate is collapsing around us, but yeah, let's focus on the economy.

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BraveSirZaphod 9 points 3 years ago

Given that essentially all climate emissions are related to the economy in one way or another, it might be worth giving it some attention.

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NocturnalMorning -6 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I'm sure the dinosaurs were super concerned about the economy when an asteroid impact caused their extinction.

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Whimsical 7 points 3 years ago

It's all the same problem though, isnt it?

Same people squeezing the economy dry are the ones ultimately responsible for fucking up efforts to unfuck the climate.

Keeping lenses on multiple issues maintains clarity on what's at the root of them.

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lemmyman 2 points 3 years ago

You're right, only climate news is allowed from now on

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1847953620 4 points 3 years ago

i mean, if that's what it would fucking take, tbh.

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YoBuckStopsHere 2 points 3 years ago

Good luck with that. It's a fight that is unwinnable for the foreseeable future.

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bquintb 16 points 3 years ago

And it means absolutely nothing as long as voters see their grocery, gas, goods so high.. He needs to confront this problem head on.

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marx2k 1 point 3 years ago

By doing what?

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popemichael 13 points 3 years ago

Describing something as akin to "blockbuster" makes me think of failure.

I guess I'm old.

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Rapidcreek 10 points 3 years ago

The Economist says the pandemic has “broken” people’s perceptions about the economy.

“Although Americans report being worried about their finances, they are behaving as flush as ever—and in economic forecasting, actions speak louder than words. When used to project future spending rather than consumer sentiment, the same battery of economic variables has fully maintained its forecasting power since 2020. In contrast, since Covid began, the correlation between sentiment and both current and future spending has vanished.”

Jonathan Last: “I hear every person who says that times are tough for them and I honor and respect that. But in the aggregate, people’s views are not just a little bit off. They are wildly out of sync with reality

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Semi-Hemi-Demigod 12 points 3 years ago

I hear every person who says that times are tough for them and I honor and respect that. But in the aggregate, people’s views are not just a little bit off. They are wildly out of sync with reality.

“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”

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randon31415 7 points 3 years ago path: 0 4833343 4834119 4834642, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
reverendsteveii 7 points 3 years ago

Sure, your whole life has consisted of a once-in-a-lifetime economic disaster every 6 years, the last one lasted for 3 years and killed over a million of us before we stopped counting and declared victory, and you watched the people in charge actively discredit and disrupt mitigation efforts but that was like minutes ago. You stupid poors don't get it: everything is great. You're actually having a wonderful time.

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Rapidcreek -3 points 3 years ago

I suppose you also think numbers lie.

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YoBuckStopsHere -9 points 3 years ago

The American economy is hotter than I have seen since the 90s. People are buying like crazy. Just look how many people are buying new iPhones. Don't say times are tough if you are shopping for the latest luxury item.

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Satelllliiiiiiiteeee 7 points 3 years ago

Just look how many people are buying new iPhones. Don’t say times are tough if you are shopping for the latest luxury item.

Trade-ins are probably a big part of people buying new iPhones. My carrier gave me $800 for my 3 year old iPhone which covered the vast majority of the cost of a new one.

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ratman150 6 points 3 years ago

Smartphone sales are decreasing lol.

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reverendsteveii 1 point 3 years ago

look how many people are buying new iPhones

https://www.statista.com/...

Even if smartphone sales had actually gone up rather than peaking in 2019, my response would be "Neat. Now do food and housing."

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YoBuckStopsHere 2 points 3 years ago

People are keeping phones longer for sure.

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Ordoabchao -2 points 3 years ago

They will be eating Ramen for months but at least they have the latest iPhone!

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dhork 9 points 3 years ago

Image

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hark -3 points 3 years ago

Did he also do the rampant inflation that is likely driving these numbers?

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sirboozebum 6 points 3 years ago

What?

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porksoda 1 point 3 years ago
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ghostdoggtv 9 points 3 years ago

Fuck this economy

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skygirl 1 point 3 years ago

I guess a political movement demanding better metrics / KPIs wouldn't be all that sexy, huh.

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Starglasses 1 point 3 years ago
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YoBuckStopsHere 3 points 3 years ago

It's based largely on loans. Those with money are spending like crazy.

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autotldr 1 point 3 years ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


The U.S. economy grew by an annual rate of 4.9 percent in the third quarter, the strongest pace since 2021, as spending — by families, businesses and the government — accelerated, even in the face of fast-rising borrowing costs.

New government data released Thursday by the Bureau of Economic Analysis shows that gross domestic product expanded between July and September, capping five straight quarters of growth and eluding a long-feared recession.

The economy’s resilience is a product of a strong job market and extra pandemic savings, which have made it possible for people to keep spending despite inflation and rising interest rates.

Economists say it’s clear that recent investments in infrastructure are paying off: Robust manufacturing construction and government spending drove much of last quarter’s growth, and households have continued to benefit from historic job gains.

U.S. households spent freely in the third quarter, doubling down on necessities, such as housing, utilities and prescription drugs, as well as luxuries including dining out, hotel stays and recreation.

In Cincinnati, Dominique Walker just made her first student loan payment in more than three years — which means she’s rethinking all sorts of other expenses, including manicures, massages and morning coffees.


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PeepinGoodArgs -1 points 3 years ago
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