Weekly General Discussion - June 26, 2023 <-> July 02, 2023
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Does anyone experience a broken UX of kbin on Chrome iOS? The thread keeps jumping up and down as I try to navigate, the comment box doesn’t stay in focus as I type, etc.
edit: seems to be much smoother on Safari iOS. We’re still a long way from the silky smoothness of Apollo, which I will miss dearly!
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Hello! Any app recommendations for iOS?
If you're enjoying kbin, you'll want to keep an eye on Artemis - spiritual successor to Apollo based on kbin.
If you're okay browsing via lemmy, there's Mlem on iOS and Memmy via TestFlight. Official reddit apps Boost and Sync are also both switching to the fediverse, Lemmy first.
Memmy or wefwef
I'll go where my friends (and content) go. Kbin and Lemmy are both very satisfying so far. As for Discord, I don't know if people are mad enough yet to bother. One civil war at a time. Otherwise, I've got my eyes on both Revolt and Comm in the future.
Well 00:00:00 UTC July 1st just rolled around, and it looks like the third party reddit apps were just cut off.
Reddit is entering a new era, I guess.
Like many others here, I’ve nuked 10+ years of Reddit posts and comments. I have not deleted my account, however, as I worry about Reddit resuscitating my posts against my will, as has happened to others.
I feel genuine sadness at turning the Reddit page, and removing Apollo from my device. I’ve learned a lot from Reddit, including much of what I know now about crypto. On the upside, I will take this as an opportunity to improve my daily habits by spending less time mindlessly doomscrolling, and being more cautious about the risk of doxxing. My contributions to the fediverse will also be more deliberate, meaningful, and targeted. And, I snatched a prized username!
I look forward to being part of this community.
I'm sad about losing 3rd party apps but it feels good to start with a clean slate.
yep, boost app stopped working. Now I will have to find ways to make kbin work
reminder for everyone running validators to update MEV-boost: https://github.com/...
it's been a while since 1.5. I don't see huge changes between 1.5 and 1.6
Thanks for the reminder. I also recently upgraded my CL/EL clients. It’s nice to see that updates are now less frequent. We’re getting into a steady state where solo node maintenance is at most just a matter of once-monthly logging in, applying security upgrades to the OS, and perhaps upgrading the staking stack. Kudos to the dev teams who’ve produced these clients and achieved relative stability less than a year since the merge.
I used https://redact.dev/ and it worked very well.
at this point, I'm done with discord. What a joke.
All the nft projects I was part of are dead anyways. daily gwei and evmav discord seem to be the only active and informative ones.
As part of the Reddit exodus, I’ve also done a lot of spring cleaning of my Discord servers too. I’ve left all of them, except the EVMaverick one on which I lurk mostly. I am not happy with Discord as a platform either.
For one, Discord threads aren’t indexed by search engines, meaning much of the knowledge is lost on all non-participants. Second, searching within Discord is a pain. Third, there is just too many hacks, scams, and doxxing happening. Fourth, there’s excessive centralization in one platform and company that may eventually go to shit in the name of eternal growing monetization, just like Reddit did.
I thought u meant EVM discord and had a mini heart attack
The ratio, in a sense is a way for us ethereum folks to cope with the constant abuse we have endured from btc maxis.
The day the ratio flips is the day we kinda proved that we were 'right' and they were wrong about us. It proves that ethereum is no longer a shitcoin
I for one understand why this sentiment surfaced, but I do agree that at a certain point we shouldn't care anymore
I dgaf about the ratio and tbh it's kind of cringy and silly that ethfinanciers focus on it as much as they do. Bitcoin could go to $1,000,000 and the ratio drop like a rock, ... , and I wouldn't care. I'd be happy for everybody holding bitcoin. What bitcoin does or is doesn't influence why I'm invested in and using Ethereum/ETH.
At this point now, I agree with what you say. I had a different perspective when I started in 2016 though, mostly because of the constant FUD I had to face when talking with militant BTC maxis.
At this point, I think there's nothing much left besides slow adoption that will make Ethereum thrive. It is now a matter of when, not if
Great idea with the weekly, especially in the beginning.
I'll be on vacation for a while but once I'm back I'll see if I can make the nitter bot work on here as well if that's something you guys want.
Additionally I highly recommend the ethfinance buddy extension: https://github.com/etheralpha/ethfinance-extension
It as a few kbin features as well like automatically sort by newest. It even shows the amount of doots in here. wow.
Nitter bot would be awesome!
New weekly, next week we may see a lot more refugees!
gonna listen to the restaking alignment discussion with Vitalik, Sreeram, Tim Beiko, Justin Drake, Dankrad & Jessy for a bit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP9f_1v9Ulc
edit: I'm only about 1/3rd in but this is already a great and enlightening discussion that I recommend everyone who stakes or is interested in staking watch
Also, Justin talked about moving ethereum to quantum resistance in 10, 15, 20 years. Is this an adequate time frame? Sorry for spamming, just a long time lurker from ethtrader to ethfinance to now kbin/lemmy and choosing to post in hopes that this community thrives here.
In my opinion, 10 years is definitely fine, 15 years is probably fine, 20 years would start making me a bit nervous that nation-states might have access to maturing quantum cryptography tech. But I know nothing about quantum tech other than they've been able to work with only a few qubits and that it's really, really hard to add more qubits to the action.
Sounds like most from the podcast are very cautious about restaking. For what it's worth, I agree and am glad Justin had a plan to neuter it if worse comes to worst. I know we all want to encourage solo staking, but I don't know if this is the healthy way.
What’s the plan to neuter?
The realistically available option is making the staking contract updatable. So instead of getting slashed 1 eth and kicked out of the validator pool, you could be slashed up to 32 eth, making restaking a very risky behavior. The other was removing the slashing conditions through one shot signatures. I'm not gonna pretend to understand how this exactly works. Sounds like fancy cryptography that may only be possible in the future decades.
Any decent mobile apps for kbin?
It's pretty decent in browser as a PWA. Then coming soon, you'll want to keep your eye on fast-moving app Artemis -- spiritual successor to Apollo, built for kbin/lemmy.
https://kbin.social/m/ArtemisApp/t/121025
The dev is very active on her Mastodon.
There's also https://wefwef.app/
I don't think it works for kbin yet, but it does for lemmy.
And it basically looks and feels like Apollo.
Been going through and deleting my reddit comments in preparation for the end of third party apps. Sad to see how this turns out
Manually reviewing or using something like https://redact.dev/?
I wonder how the api changes will affect redact, and pushshift for that matter... (does redact just use pushshift under the hood?)
RIP my deleteRedditPosts script
I would expect redact to stop working, no? Which is why I made sure to nuke all my posts well before the deadline.
What’s scary is one user reporting seeing their posts reinstated after deletion, not once but twice. Unclear whether it was an intentional move by Reddit to rollback deletions against user wishes, or an unspecified sync issue that retrieved posts from an unsynced server somewhere.
Either way, past the deadline, it won’t be realistic to manually nuke thousands of posts and comments in your history, so get it done before the deadline! And don’t delete your account entirely in case Reddit pulls that post resuscitation trick, or you won’t be able to access them again.
Manually, just for fun 🤣. I might not make it by the shut down though
Just out of spite 😛
Price action looking nice, I think we're due for a liftoff soon
we're not at maximum despair? It's been depressing af lately.
On the upside, most of the shady or unsustainable ops like FTX, Terra/Luna, 3AC, BlockFi/Celsius/Voyager, Genesis, etc. are behind us. There are fewer bad agents to purge, and fewer bad news to depress the market further - the glaring exception being perhaps the continued regulatory uncertainty and adversity in the US, and a Binance and/or Tether collapse.
Good to see an EthFam alternative here. Is this one of the bigger alt communities besides the Mavs Discord?
Hey everyone, checking in here! Probably going to lower my activity on reddit. Nice to see an alternative here
Is learning Rust a good idea to get involved in coding in the Ethereum space?
Or anyone with work experience got any advice / want to get in touch I'd hugely appreciate it.
Depends on where you come from, skill-wise:
If you're more on the web development side, and want to interact with contracts and such, it's probably best to learn a library like ethers.js or viem, since it already uses JS/TS and you just have to learn the concepts of wallets/providers/transactions, etc.
If you mean wanting to actually get involved with smart contract development itself, to me it depends if you have any other reason to learn Rust. Solidity is typically the most approachable route to go, especially with tools like Hardhat, but if you have plans to do other kinds of back-end development with Rust specifically, then it might make more sense to start there and learn.
Thanks for the reply. I'm interested in backend and code efficiency more, but I like both; I guess I'll just start learning and see what fits with my skillset!
Rust is not a good entry point for anything right now, I'd say, regardless of your experience level. Either you know you need / want Rust, or you shouldn't be touching it
instead, I recommend finding a small project that you're interested in and then familiarizing yourself with whatever it is that is being used in that project. If you have 0 experience then perhaps there's a 101 course somewhere for the language / frameworks being used in that project, that way you can apply what you've learned immediately in understanding the project you're interested in
Ohhh I like the colors on the charts, come on give me some more
On it!
Can't help but feel this is an inflection point.
If you made it this far without losing everything, you are going to make it.
it is a kind of self-reinforcing feel good feeling / statement, so whenever I feel something like that I try to remind myself that I'm not being objective. I guess that's where TA can help, if you can actually stay objective when doing TA
Maybe a weird question, but has anyone tokenized Steam redemption codes?
steam pretty anti crypto/anti nft. It would be a risky move, they'd probably find a way to null anything sold in such a manner
the company (steam) doesn’t allow game items that could have real-world value
I'm sorry, but wtf do they consider the steam marketplace?
Steam is just another company that's lived long enough to become the villain. Epic (very pro crypto) will happily continue to take marketshare away from Steam.
To make this work in a reduced trust, crypto friendly way, you would need some kind of mechanism to prove that the key the seller has is still valid and working with some kind of zero knowledge proof. Otherwise, it is just another web2 key market that takes crypto for payment.
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