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maegul 7 points 3 years ago

Nice character episode with a simple premise and a good amount of Pelia!

I've always thought Trek is at its worst or riskiest when doing time travel stuff, but the tone and focus of this episode being on La'an and her relationship to her heritage really centered the episode. In a way it was a subtle, but strong, IMO, character driven plot point to have her struggle with finding for once a real intimate connection with someone destined to be lost and "forgotten".

Having Kahn appear as a child was low-key wonderful.

What's up with the watch? Is there more to Pelia than meets the eye? Seems she's conveniently forced herself and her myriad belongings onto the ship for this particular time period while also (and I forget what Trek's take on time travel is here) knowing about that watching coming on board at this point ... ?

Anyone else feeling a certain lack of Pike in the first 3 episodes? Not against it, it just seems somewhat conspicuous given that I imagine the character is half of the reason the show exists.

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UESPA_Sputnik 1 point 3 years ago

Anyone else feeling a certain lack of Pike in the first 3 episodes?

That's intentional. Anson Mount recently became a father and the producers wanted to give him some time off.

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HobbesHK 6 points 3 years ago

Really enjoyed this one (again)!

Felt like it probably worked a bit less like a time travel mystery, but worked very well as a La'an character piece. She got to experience what it was like to live without the burden of her heritage, but realised that for the greater good, the bad things had to happen.

The plot contrivances were a bit on the nose, the convenience with which they located people and facilities in particular, but again, it didn't bother me one bit. The emotional scene of La'an in her quarters, at the end, after her call with Kirk... great stuff!

I expected a Guinan-esque moment where she would hand the watch back to Pelia and they would just smirk and nod. I felt like Pelia was given her "the look" when she returned to the bridge at the end, so that may have been it. But then the "cliffhanger ending" where the camera focused on the watch? Who knows, Boimler may need to come back and fix this mess!

But also... no matter which timeline we're in: Where did Chief Kyle go??? Was he too mean?

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ValueSubtracted 6 points 3 years ago

Very solid episode, overall.

Paul Wesley's performance certainly isn't Shatnerian (nor should it be), but I thought he was charming in his own right. May he play an endless procession of alternate Kirks.

The writers showed remarkable restraint in not bringing in Spiner to play Adam Soong.

One thing I did not care for was the official conflation of the Department of Temporal Investigations and Voyager's time cops. I prefer those being separate entities, with DTI being a fairly boring Federation department that interrogates time travel adventures. A minor thing, and that ship sailed in the fandom long ago, so I will let it go.

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AuroraBorealis 6 points 3 years ago

World's worst security on that super secret base

Also I love these time travel episodes where they just conveniently time travel to the current day of whenever they are shooting the current episode, and this was a excellent addition to those

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gnuplusmatt 5 points 3 years ago

Canon purists are making leaps about the placement of the eugenics wars. Sounds to me like they're blaming the Temporal Cold War for changing things.

Must be pre USS Relativity time agency...

Fun episode, but the gymnastics to tell Kirk stories without impacting TOS is getting a bit obvious.

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alex 5 points 3 years ago

There are no gymnastics necessary since he's not "our" Kirk. He's an alternate timeline Kirk. The only time we see the "real" Kirk (Lt. Kirk) is at the end of this episode where La'an space-Facetimes him.

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FrostyCaveman 3 points 3 years ago

Silly plot aside, I just wanted to give La’an a hug after that, damn.

Christina Chong is amazing at the role too.

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UESPA_Sputnik 3 points 3 years ago

Christina Chong absolutely killed it, especially in that final scene. Imagine finding someone you can connect to for the first time in your life, and immediately lose them. It even makes someone who is usually very unemotional crack.

Also, Pelia is such a delightful character. Great addition to the show.

Other than that I'm not really sold on the episode. It's over an hour long and it did feel (too) slow and meandering at times. And I feel as if it just existed to shove in Kirk once again (and once again in an alternate timeline scenario to stick to the Trek canon) and explain the postponement of the Eugenics Wars by some Temporal Cold War shenenigans.

Final nitpick: how can Spock exist in the alternate timeline if humans and Vulcans are enemies?

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zloubida 3 points 3 years ago

Final nitpick: how can Spock exist in the alternate timeline if humans and Vulcans are enemies?

They are not ennemies. Just not allies.

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daleus 2 points 3 years ago

La'an heavy episode, Christina Chong's acting was brilliant, especially in the last couple of minutes of the ep.

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zloubida 2 points 3 years ago

La'An is a wonderful character, and the actress plays her wonderfully. I liked this episode (except for the car part). Department of Temporal Investigations may provide psychological support... they used La'An and threw her.

But I'm sure what occurred here will have some effects in the coming episodes. Maybe just between Pelia and La'An, but I do think the consequences will be greater than that.

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eva_sieve 1 point 3 years ago

I love how alt-Kirk just assumes any given 21st century metropolis is New York. Such a simple way to poke fun at all-too-often America-centric writing.

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hazelnot 1 point 3 years ago

I like the premise of the episode, but it's just... such Marvel writing, especially the whole car stuff with Kirk. I pretty much expected him or La'an to go "he's right behind me, isn't he?" at some point in the episode

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ValueSubtracted 4 points 3 years ago

He didn't, though, so I'm not sure it's fair to hold that against him.

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hazelnot 5 points 3 years ago

He didn't, but the vibes were there 😅

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