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catagris -24 points 3 years ago

A Terrible thing.. It sayings "Ministry of Health data" which Ministry of Health?

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merthyr1831 54 points 3 years ago

The Gaza ministry of health has met the highest standards of NGO and UN scrutiny. They even published proof of every single confirmed dead civilian a week ago when the death toll was at 8,000. There were 12 pages of names before the age of 1.

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NoneOfUrBusiness 25 points 3 years ago

Usually the Gazan ministry of health, which is run by Hamas because they're the local government in Gaza. But, their numbers are highly accurate, as said by UNICEF.

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Pancito -46 points 3 years ago

It's run by hamas. Doesn't mean there aren't a lot of people dying for real. But the numbers are right out of the mouth of a terrorist group.

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merthyr1831 48 points 3 years ago

It's interesting that you'll take Israel's word despite proof of regularly fabricating lies. But the health ministry under bombardment that is verified by the UN and multiple humanitarian NGOs is "the mouth of a terrorist group".

Perhaps you'd do well to consider whether your cowardly attitude to human suffering is making you an insufferable person.

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be_excellent_to_each_other 24 points 3 years ago

One snippet out of a lengthy article.

Many experts consider figures provided by the ministry reliable, given its access, sources and accuracy in past statements.

“Everyone uses the figures from the Gaza Health Ministry because those are generally proven to be reliable,” said Omar Shakir, Israel and Palestine director at Human Rights Watch. “In the times in which we have done our own verification of numbers for particular strikes, I’m not aware of any time which there’s been some major discrepancy.”

Shakir said Human Rights Watch would not use figures provided by parties with “a propensity to misrepresent information.”

Why news outlets and the U.N. rely on Gaza’s Health Ministry for death tolls

And another:

Throughout four wars and numerous bloody skirmishes between Israel and Hamas, U.N. agencies have cited the Health Ministry’s death tolls in regular reports. The International Committee of the Red Cross and Palestinian Red Crescent also use the numbers.

In the aftermath of war, the U.N. humanitarian office has published final death tolls based on its own research into medical records.

In all cases the U.N.’s counts have largely been consistent with the Gaza Health Ministry’s, with small discrepancies.

— 2008 war: The ministry reported 1,440 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 1,385.

— 2014 war: The ministry reported 2,310 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 2,251.

— 2021 war: The ministry reported 260 Palestinians killed; the U.N. reported 256.

What is Gaza’s Ministry of Health and how does it calculate the war’s death toll?

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TokenBoomer 4 points 3 years ago

Perhaps not surprisingly, it is also this number - six million - that Holocaust deniers aim at when trying to discredit the essential nature of the Holocaust. Source

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Ddhuud 1 point 3 years ago
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StupidBrotherInLaw 1 point 3 years ago

I'm really glad that, for the most part, people around here are educated enough to see the complete lack of value of comments like these.

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NewAgeOldPerson 0 points 3 years ago

I am so very tempted to wish you ill. So so very. But I'll use my rage to donate instead. I hope you meet your fate though. Sooner than later.

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