Younger users of Lemmy: Did you ever love a game that you just really sucked at?

3 years ago by NuXCOM_90Percent to c/asklemmy

So I was watching a few youtubes and remembered how the vast majority (of like the ten) nes games me and my sister had were hard as all hell. I loved to play Little Nemo and Street Fighter 2010 but I am pretty sure I never made it past the third level of either. Let alone infamously hard games like The Lion King.

Which got me thinking. Basically every game for the past 20 years has been designed around instant gratification and being accessible. We outright had to make a new concept "hard but fair" to account for games like Dark Souls that are designed to be difficult but beatable as opposed to putting you in a death spiral if you hesitate too long on a hard jump (hello Ninja Gaiden).

So do the younger folk even have a concept of a "favorite game" where you likely never experienced more than fifteen minutes worth of content?

zyratoxx 24 points 3 years ago

Do I need to explain any further?

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jaykay 7 points 3 years ago

That’s why I only play aram, urf and 5v5 lmao

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GenesisJones 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah aram and TFT for me lmao

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zyratoxx 1 point 3 years ago

Ah, I went to play Pokémon Unite instead (even tho Nintendo and their Switch & Mobile only approach)... Bluestacks is an option but not a particularly good one...

And then there's Tencent - but you encounter Tencent kinda everywhere right now so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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Remmock 2 points 3 years ago

So the thing about these linds of games is that you theoretically can master any Champion/Pokémon, but there are some that you just intuitively understand. Keep trying different characters until you find one you gel with in Standard/non-Ranked matches, then get a feel for how to improve your runes/items by playing Ranked and studying your shortcomings. It’s how I found out that I love to play walls and use items that optimize walls for damage. (Iceborn Gauntlet, Sunfire, Demonic Embrace type stuff for LoL and Rocky Helmet/Shell Bell/Drain Crown for Unite.)

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eighty 18 points 3 years ago

literally all fighting games. started with smash, loved to sf4, then dbfz. sucked hard but still f opening fgc content to this day - planning to buy sf6 when i get the chance/time

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Moonguide 15 points 3 years ago

KSP. Never managed to even land on the Mün without a fast and violent end to the crew, but I loved building spaceships.

The best thing I managed to do was to achieve an orbit around Kerbin.

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meekah 8 points 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure I saw a YouTube video where some actual rocket scientist said that KSP was amazingly realistic, so you having achieved anything at all seems incredible to me! I just know I spent a few hours with that game and never got anything to not explode. Some things would launch but oscillate out of control and explode eventually.

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Moonguide 3 points 3 years ago

Oh no, my rockets oscillated like crazy. I just strapped more boosters and struts and hoped it got out of the atmosphere before it got Kraken'd.

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bionicjoey 3 points 3 years ago

I could do manned missions to Mun and Minmus, but I don't think in my hundreds of hours of play I ever set Kerbal feet on another planet. I did launch some probes though.

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PresidentCamacho 2 points 3 years ago

Shoot same! I swear to God it was like the controls were broken on every rocket I ever made. No matter how symmetrical it was I felt like I was always fighting the controls.

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Moonguide 1 point 3 years ago

It was the blessed Kraken.

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theshatterstone54 15 points 3 years ago

Did, and still do enjoy fast-paced shooters from time to time but I absolutely suck at it. Sometimes you just need to do something exciting without putting too much thought into it and not having a care about whether you win or lose, what your K/D is or whatever. I just find it a nice way to unwind from time to time.

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Fizzlebleam 9 points 3 years ago

I am a young user of lemmy ( I am in high school ), And, I really suck in games, but I love the blinding of isaac: repentance,I didnt played as many games as that, but I think it is the hardest game I've played, and my favorite.

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bigoljim 3 points 3 years ago

Keep and it, in a few years you can be like me. An old guy who loves Issac, but still sucks at it!

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Fizzlebleam 2 points 3 years ago

yeah, it is fun to try and retry, and I love the fact that every game you play are different in some ways. I began to watch "Learning of isaac" from Shisheyu , it is very fun and usefull. Btw do you think people can be interested by a AMA I'm a high school student ( in France)

edit: I wrote "I'm a high school", but I'm a human.

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bigoljim 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah, the variety is amazing. That is the best part by far!

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HouseWolf 3 points 3 years ago

I absolutely sucked at games as a kid, Most of my absolute favourite games I played all day for months on end as a kid I still never finished... even on the easiest setting.

Wasn't until my 20s I started going back to a lot of these games and finally completing them 100% on hardest mode. It's quite a feeling :)

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UnRelatedBurner 8 points 3 years ago

oh yes, a bunch.

Sekiro wasn't as hard for any of my friends then if was for me, that game practically made me not hesitate, even just a little.

Then there's ULTRAKILL that game aant you to do everything from muscle memory or it's straight up going to kill you, Have not perfected the final challenge, but the game is extreamly fun.

And to give you another example, let's sag the Keli games. Oxygen NotnIncluded and Don't Starve (Together), these two can be the two hardest games I've ever played. Easly clocking in more then double the playtime then the previous two, and yet I've never beaten neither of them. In Oxygen I managed to get to the "mid game", as the community calls it, ONCE, on m most recent. In Don't Starve all my notable achievements are because I have friends that play way better than me and we played co-op.

These games are easly in my top 10, making me work for the reward is much more fun. Played Legue and Fortnite 1k hours in both. I hate them for making me addicted and stealing my life. Oh, also you asked for younger gamers, I'm 17.

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pineapplelover 7 points 3 years ago

CS:GO

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MrBubbles96 7 points 3 years ago

Dunno if I'd consider myself "younger" anymore (who am i kidding, i ain't THAT old lol), but...

If we count really old games: the OG castlevania's. Didn't grow up during that era, but thanks to handmedowns, i got to play pre Symphany Vania when i was super young. Love them, wish i was better at them tho. The collections are sitting in my steam library, and maybe some day, I'll beat at least one of the classics.

For something more recent(?) tho, i love me some Touhou. fangames, offically made games by Zun, fan games in the style of Zun, ya name it....but MAN do i suck at the actual bullethell Touhou games. i can make it past two or 3 stages, but then the boss destroys me and I'm like "I CAN choose continue, nothing but pride is stopping me...but also, if i can't manage this far without continuing, how bad is the rest gonna be??" and wuss out lol

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Destraight 6 points 3 years ago

Noita. People say the final boss is the tutorial boss 💀

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halloween_spookster 2 points 3 years ago

I get out of the first area maybe 50% of the time? I rarely get beyond the second area. Still love the game, but it's really difficult for me.

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sexual_tomato 1 point 3 years ago

Same with the Xbox version of ninja gaiden

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mdhughes 5 points 3 years ago

Well now I just want to watch young people try to beat the unbeatable games of my yout'.

Prince of Persia, Mega Man X, Ghosts & Goblins, Ecco the Dolphin (my favorite, but I screamed so much at Ecco dying one pixel away from air). Zork without a walkthru. Solve all the puzzles yourself or by talking to friends also playing it blind.

And you paid $60 ($200 in today's bullshit money) for this, you can't get another for 3 months.

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mikezane 4 points 3 years ago

God damn, I think Super Ghouls and Ghosts gave me PTSD. I literally spent an entire summer where that was the only game I played. The absolute freefall of my happiness when I went from thinking I was going to finally get a chance to beat the final boss to the princess telling me I had to play the game all over again but with a shitty bracelet as a weapon was damned near heartbreaking.

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Zahille7 3 points 3 years ago

I got pretty far in Sands of Time, but never actually finished it. The first miniboss of Warrior Within can eat my entire ass, though.

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nitefox 5 points 3 years ago

World of Warcraft. You may wonder how can I possibly suck at it, and well... I just do.

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Hobart_the_GoKart 3 points 3 years ago

I love, but suck at, Minecraft. How am I so bad?

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Tixanou 2 points 3 years ago

I know a lot about Minecraft but I still suck at it lmao

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callouscomic 5 points 3 years ago

Terraria. Spent so much time in it. Tons of fun. I liked a lot of it. But I compared to other friends and realized I was terrible and barely even saw much of the game cause I didn't get very far.

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Kyrinar 1 point 3 years ago

I have a couple hundred hours in Terraria, am still terrible. Usually get carried by my buddy I play with. Though, to be fair, he has close to a thousand hours, so maybe there's still hope! Lol

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populustree 5 points 3 years ago

i like ddr alot, but i suck ass at it

still a fan

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Kissaki 3 points 3 years ago

DDR?

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theskyisfalling 4 points 3 years ago

Dance dance revolution.

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populustree 2 points 3 years ago

dance dance revolution, a neat arcade rhythm game played with your feet

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Xariphon 4 points 3 years ago

Have we reached an age of the Internet where people don't know what DDR is anymore??

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populustree 1 point 3 years ago

damn, i guess so

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ferrodegaragem 1 point 3 years ago

Dragon's Dogma Remix 😂

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MrBubbles96 2 points 3 years ago

I'm obligated to post this since Dragon's Dogma was mentioned:

https://youtu.be/SZNbabKjKpA?si=b7chvHH0hHdki0RP

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space 4 points 3 years ago

Age of Empires 2. Love the game, but I'm terrible at it... I can barely beat the medium AI. I was defeated in pretty much every online match.

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spooksboots 2 points 3 years ago

I always felt like the way you need to be playing AoE to be competitively good defeated the purpose of the game for me. It ends up become a rush of min maxing, as opposed to what I loved about the game which was building and designing empires and armies.

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sizzling 1 point 3 years ago

At some point you will drop down to your level online, but itll take a few losses to push through. It is such a lovely game though, but just a bit too stressful for me.

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nayminlwin 4 points 3 years ago

Dota and Starcraft 1/2

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Lauchs 3 points 3 years ago

Never thought about it like that. The Adventures of Willie Beamish taught me a lot about the nature of an uncaring universe... And now I don't think it's possible for someone to be frustrated in that same vexating way anymore as the solution is only ever a google away.

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atlasraven31 3 points 3 years ago

I love Supreme Commander. Terrible at it.

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SecretPancake 3 points 3 years ago

I am not young but I can’t beat Souls games. I adore the world design of Dark Souls, Bloodbourne and Elden Ring but I just can’t motivate myself to suffer through them. I know they are beatable, there are many safepoints, but I don’t have fun doing that. Still, I wish these games had a difficulty slider for anyone who just wants to enjoy the story. But that will freak out the gamer bros who think that will somehow ruin their precious game.

And it’s not like I never play anything on hard mode. Games like Sniper Elite work best in „Authentic“ mode for me. In puzzle games I always turn off any assistance if possible. But simply increasing the health bar of bosses is not my understanding of fun.

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ThisIsAManWhoKnowsHowToGling 3 points 3 years ago

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CarbonIceDragon 3 points 3 years ago

Depends on how young you mean exactly, but there's a niche space warfare simulator (simulator in the sense that it only uses currently or very close to existing technology, models the behavior of every major component on a ship, and the developer has stated that it intentionally isn't made to be balanced as their motive for making it was partially to see what kind of strategies might become dominant in a space war rather than create a balanced game, obviously a true simulator of a space war would be difficult considering one hasn't happened yet) called "Children of a Dead Earth" that I really like the concept of, and really want to enjoy, but have never been able to properly get into, because I've never managed to design ship components that are particularly efficient or effective compared to premade examples, and my experience in games like Kerbal space program havent given me a good enough understanding of the game's more realistic orbital mechanics to figure out how to maneuver my fleets properly. It feels like a game that one needs to be a bigger space nerd than I am to properly enjoy, but that same effort at realism is why I find it so appealing in the first place.

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Zahille7 1 point 3 years ago

Have you tried Space Engineers or Empyrion? They're open world survival crafting games that let you explore entire planets and build your own space stations and ships and such.

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CarbonIceDragon 1 point 3 years ago

Space engineers yes, though not empyrion. I do like the game, but I have found it not quite as fun as a voxel vehicle building game as games that let you also design your own components or subassemblies, such as From the Depths, and not quite as fun as a space game as Kerbal Space Program, as least in my opinion.

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Zahille7 1 point 3 years ago

If that's the case, then you may want to check out Starbase. It's basically on life support at this point (being an MMO), but the ship building is pretty wild. You can build your ships from absolute scratch, choosing the specific size of the plates and able to cut them to fit exactly, choosing where to place your bolts and struts for maximized stability and ship strength. You can even build the engines from different individual parts, and there's an entire coding system so you can write your own code for autopilot, automatic landing, and all kinds of other things.

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Castob 2 points 3 years ago

Slay the spire I must have 400hrs+ of game time on multiple platform. Yet I still suck ass!!

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Thisfox 2 points 3 years ago

I recommend you go visit the Dwarf Fortress forums.

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tomcatt360 2 points 3 years ago

Overwatch. I've played since 2018 and I still haven't climbed out of Bronze. I love the story and character lore a ton though!

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Doxatek 1 point 3 years ago

I used to be gold and platinum but I think the ranking system is broken because I'm as good as I ever was and am consistently bronze -__-

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HuntressHimbo 4 points 3 years ago

If this is happening to both of you it just might be the decreasing player base. If the people that are still playing leans towards those who are very good or very experienced it might just be that you are the same but there are less players worse than you still playing

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Doxatek 1 point 3 years ago

This is a very good point for some reason I'd not considered

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angstylittlecatboy 2 points 3 years ago

All rhythm games and fighting games.

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lemann 2 points 3 years ago

Road Rash on the PS1, absolutely loved it but could barely win a race on it 😂 yeeting other riders off their motorbikes was too much fun.

Also thought the video cutscenes and menus looked kinda cool back then, especially compared to the simple ones in fighting games (tekken, versus etc). Actually thinking about it now, the music on Tekken's character select screen really made you feel like you were in an arcade

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Helix 3 points 3 years ago

There's a spiritual successor to Road Rash which is Road Redemption, I can recommend it. I found it to be a bit easier to control.

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Prouvaire 2 points 3 years ago

I'm a younger user of lemmy in the sense that I've only been a Fediverse user for less than a year. 😇

Starcraft (1 and 2). I suck. Suck in the "had trouble finishing the campaign on Normal, couldn't get out of Bronze league" sense of suck.

But I love it. It's my favourite video game, though these days I only watch it rather than play it, for reasons of see above.

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MycoBro 2 points 3 years ago

The fucking lion king. Aladdin was hard af too. But roger rabbit? I couldn’t beat that bouncing around mother fucker and I don’t know if I ever did. And fuck kid Icarus. Another one I never beat. But the answer to the question is Turok for 64

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ferrodegaragem 2 points 3 years ago

Pretty much all of them, especially fighting games. I liked SF4 but absolutely sucked at trying any more complex combos.

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Xariphon 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not that young anymore but I put more hours into Planetside 2 than is even reasonable for how fucking bad I am at it.

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JadenSmith 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not very good at Diablo 4, I mainly picked it up thinking it would have a sort of MMO thing and expected something not too different to a grindy time waster.
I mainly play other genres, and the last Diablo game I played was D2, when I was a teenager (mid-30s now), which I didn't even get far into.

I just started Act 6, which I believe is the last, most recently. Where I skip cut scenes in other games I'm really enjoying the story of this, and so I'm finding myself watching them all the way through. The voice acting is great and I've never actually felt properly bored.

I'm not bad, but not what I see as the average player of this sort of thing (so not very good either), yet I enjoy it a fair bit! Veeeery dark story, and the cut scenes are incredibly gory sometimes. I think that's really cool from an artistic standpoint, I kind of get why people like deep horror films so much: there's just so much cool stuff artists can do with dark themes, and the artists in Diablo 4 really go ham with this! Lilith has like a freakin' head of horn clusters, like they said "fuck two horns, just keep adding them!" But they made her character REALLY cool looking by doing so. I love it.

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Zahille7 2 points 3 years ago

I haven't played it, but I remember watching the opening cinematic where Lilith gets summoned. I love her aesthetic as a demon queen, with the skin wings and all.

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JadenSmith 1 point 3 years ago

Oh same. That intro is what drew me in. Reminds me of when I used to sketch all sorts of demonic beings for fun. But not just the appearance, for me the entire cut scene elements impressed me. From the design to the voice acting and general demeanor of the characters. The emotional depth within each role is rather well accomplished, I would say.

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tebro 1 point 3 years ago

Escape from tarkov. I am intrigued by the concept of the game, but each time I played I was outmatched in gear and skill.

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EtherealMoon 1 point 3 years ago

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c0mbatbag3l 1 point 3 years ago

Tried for months but couldn't beat Rayman 2. Fuck you, razor beard.

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Mrderisant 1 point 3 years ago

I'm bad at most games so yes

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sparky678348 1 point 3 years ago

League of Legends

Damn that shit is hard

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FluffyPotato 1 point 3 years ago

I wasn't expecting to call myself young but I guess I never did experience any games that were just brutal though I did get into gaming a bit later in life. The earliest game I played was Warcraft 3 and the main campaign was easy enough, some custom maps were harder but nothing really hard so 20 years ago games weren't really harder. The hardest thing in any game I have experienced in about 20 years of gaming was Midir with a magic build in dark souls 3 which I never did beat.

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HubertManne 1 point 3 years ago

I feel like the answer is yes, but I can't remember what if any game it was. Its just the feeling is familiar.

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minthenry 1 point 3 years ago

Does it count I loved Quake 3 back in the day? Wasn't good at all at it but still I think it's one of the greatest games ever made and I loved playing it, especially Rocket Arena.

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JSens1998 1 point 3 years ago

For me it was Rainbow Six Siege.

Absolutely fell in love with the gun play (leaning in that game is my favorite mechanic in any game), destructible environments, operator gadget interactions, and repelling.

However, I was trash at the game because of slow reflexes due to bad eyesight, and poor aim. Relied on the gadgets while my team got the kills.

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AndyLikesCandy 1 point 3 years ago

How do you define young?

I'm definitely too old but I loved Tarkov before cheaters ruined it.

I know some early-20's folks who grew up on DayZ.

Both games very hard to not suck at.

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maryjayjay 1 point 3 years ago

Defender

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aelwero 1 point 3 years ago

Karate Champ. I probably spent hundreds of dollars on that game and never got past the third match, and don't have the slightest clue what would make a round kick score a full point or a half point... You could come up with strats that usually worked, but nothing ever worked reliably... Mortal Kombat you could come up with strats that would 100% get you double flawless, but it's grandpappy would toss all manner of randomness at your ass and fuck you up pretty reliably :)

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krimsonbun 1 point 3 years ago

I don't think there's any game I like that I'm good at

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lichtmetzger 1 point 3 years ago

I love "Independence War 2: Edge of Chaos". I even run its official fansite.

To this day, I have never finished the game because it's hard. I mostly play it like a sandbox space pirate simulator. :D

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gnzl 1 point 3 years ago

I don't qualify as a "younger user of Lemmy" but I love games like Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat. I suck at all of them, except for Killer Instinct but I'm only kinda good with Combo.

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NENathaniel 1 point 3 years ago

Fortnite lol, but now I’d never wanna touch it again.

I def sucked at Quake Champions at first but now I think it’s the best shooter around

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randomthin2332 -1 points 3 years ago

Whoooaa talking about the NES for me it was always "Castlevania" and "legends of Zelda II", gawd damn they were so difficult when I was a child.

Tbf you didn't say video game :p so basketball was another, used to think I was so Kool playing it. But dayumn did I suck at it.

Current day would probably be call of duty, I always think I'm gonna slay, then I get killed an call it bullshit >!but I know it's not bullshit, it was me!<

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TALL421 2 points 3 years ago

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shinigamiookamiryuu -1 points 3 years ago

I could never beat Pokémon Blue because I chose the grass starter.

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bionicjoey 7 points 3 years ago

I won't stand for this Bulbasaur slander

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MrVilliam 5 points 3 years ago

Right?! Type advantage against the first 2 gyms, mid game has a couple of surprise difficulty spikes, but late game Venusaur is a front end status workhorse and tank. Choosing Bulbasaur is playing on Easy lol.

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bionicjoey 3 points 3 years ago

IIRC the original design intent was that the starter choice was intended as a form of difficulty selection for the player. It's not super well-signalled, but Oak kinda says when you're choosing that Bulbasaur is easy, Squirtle is medium, and Charmander is hard. Their respective difficulties reflect their match ups to the first two gyms and also to most of the fights in the early game.

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can 6 points 3 years ago

You mean the one with a type advantage against the first two gyms?

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shinigamiookamiryuu 1 point 3 years ago

Yes, but overall it wasn't a great choice.

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sexual_tomato 2 points 3 years ago

I beat that game at 10 years old with only my starter. Like I knew in concept you should train other Pokemon but I just had a level 86 Blastoise by the end of the game.

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ArugulaZ -2 points 3 years ago

Young? How young? Because I'm older than most video game consoles...

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