DeSantis won't condemn Musk for endorsing an antisemitic post. 'I did not see the comment,' he says

3 years ago by MicroWave to c/news

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is refusing to condemn Elon Musk’s post endorsing an antisemitic conspiracy theory.

Republican presidential candidate Ron DeSantis is refusing to condemn Elon Musk ‘s post endorsing an antisemitic conspiracy theory, maintaining Sunday that he wasn’t familiar with the post despite it prompting major companies to pull advertising from the billionaire’s X social media platform.

“I did not see the comment,” DeSantis, the governor of Florida, said on CNN’s “State of the Union.” “And so, I know that Elon has had a target on his back ever since he purchased Twitter because I think he’s taking it in a direction that a lot of people who are used to controlling the narrative don’t like.”

Musk has sparked outcry with a recent tweet responding to a user who accused Jews of hating white people and for professing a general indifference to antisemitism. “You have said the actual truth,” Musk tweeted in a reply Wednesday.

Pratai 77 points 3 years ago
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Waraugh 13 points 3 years ago

I have no idea what the comment was even though I’m up to speed in general on the backlash. Difference is that I’m already convinced Elon is a bigoted prick so I never felt a need to check? I’m not sure that makes me any better to be honest. For all I know it was something mundane and taken out of context, I just don’t think that’s very likely and even if it was I already think he’s absolute scum for enough other bs he’s said and done.

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DerisionConsulting 19 points 3 years ago

The first one in this specific instance, is that someone said “Jewish communties have been pushing the exact kind of dialectical hatred against whites that they claim to want people to stop using against them.”

Musk replied with “You have said the actual truth”

The second one in this specific instance is that someone else said “Everyone is allowed to be proud of their race, except for white people, because we’ve been brainwashed into believing that our history was some how ‘worse’ than other races."

Musk replied with “Yeah, this is super messed up. Time for this nonsense to end and shame ANYONE who perpetuates these lies!”


Both of these are a little dog whistle-ly, and I could see someone who hasn't been in the corners of the internet, or has never heard of things like "straight pride month" not hearing what's actually being said.

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Waraugh 13 points 3 years ago

Wow, it’s incredible to me how much hatred that asshole spews. It would be sad if it wasn’t so destructive. He couldn’t be punching down from any higher of a perch than he sits atop. What a miserable and pathetic way to live.

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Vant 55 points 3 years ago
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Ranvier 19 points 3 years ago

He doesn't think endorsing a nazi post will be particularly popular, but he can't afford to alienate his base of nazis, so he pretends he has never heard of it forever until people stop asking. Classic republicans.

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nilloc 1 point 3 years ago

As close MM. jamming fingers in his ears and screaming lalalalalalalala over the question.

If Rhonda and the rest of the GOP weren’t so dangerous, they’d be funny to watch.

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ThatFembyWho 3 points 3 years ago

To be fair, he's extremely busy plotting the destruction of LGBTQ people, and doesn't really have time for much else

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Additional_Prune 55 points 3 years ago

The article goes on to point out that DeSantis was shown Elon's comment and then still refused to condemn it. Rhonda's statement against antisemitism rings very hollow when he refuses to denounce antisemitism that's shown to him.

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SkyezOpen 12 points 3 years ago

The guy's actual supporters wave nazi flags. He won't risk disenfranchising them.

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Nougat 35 points 3 years ago

I did not see the comment.

Here it is. What do you have to say about it now?

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goferking0 10 points 3 years ago

I need more time to process the comment

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Daft_ish 2 points 3 years ago

Is it up for debate whether desaintis is bigoted?

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goferking0 4 points 3 years ago

Only for his supporters

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lolcatnip 3 points 3 years ago

I'm pretty sure most of them support him because he's a bigot.

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Illuminostro 27 points 3 years ago

Has there ever been a more unlikable Presidential candidate? Seriously. Everything about this guy is unpleasant.

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r_se_random 20 points 3 years ago

I mean, a rapist actually became the President, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Illuminostro 3 points 3 years ago

And a mass murderer.

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Gold_E_Lox 10 points 3 years ago

all presidents become mass murderers anyway

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SoleInvictus 4 points 3 years ago

Name a United States president since the 1930s that WASN'T guilty of at least one war crime. You can't!

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_dev_null 16 points 3 years ago

Cruz in 2016?

Santorum in 2012?

I think what makes DeSantis different right now, is the circus he's putting on in FL to try to demonstrate how extreme he can be. So these despicable and see-through shenanigans are fresh in our memory.

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athos77 18 points 3 years ago

Something that someone pointed out to me several years ago, when there was some scandal in the US Congress and everyone the press contacted was like "I haven't read it so I don't know anything about it": it may or may not be true that he hasn't read it. But he certainly has a staff member who has read it and informed him about it.

"I haven't seen it" is the equivalent of Yes, I know about it, but it would create difficulties for me if I condemn it, so I'm just very conveniently going to avoid 'seeing' it until this blows over. Also, if you continue to press me about the matter, I'm just going to respond that I haven't seen it because I've been focusing on , so there.

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iBaz 18 points 3 years ago

DeSantis walks into a bar and sits at a table with 5 Nazis. The table now has six Nazis.

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Ensign_Crab 15 points 3 years ago

He did nazi the comment.

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RememberTheApollo_ 15 points 3 years ago

And hypothetically doesn’t want to see it, and refuses to look for it.

What a useless dumbass.

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ExfilBravo 14 points 3 years ago

The political equivalent of putting your fingers in your ears and yelling LA LA LA LA LA at the top of your lungs when they get asked a question they don't want to answer.

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ThatFembyWho 7 points 3 years ago

see nothing, hear nothing, say nothing

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lolcatnip 7 points 3 years ago

He sure seems to have a lot of opinions about something he claims to know nothing about.

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teamevil 6 points 3 years ago
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anon_8675309 5 points 3 years ago

Quick somebody show it to him. What a fucking coward.

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ILikeBoobies 4 points 3 years ago

That is a fine stance however it means he then has to go seek it out and update people after he has seen it

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JustZ 13 points 3 years ago

No it's bullshit. He knows what it said. He's giving Musk cover. Fascists always give other fascists cover.

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ILikeBoobies 6 points 3 years ago

Well obviously, that’s why he’s not going to get back to us

And then the answer of “didn’t see it” no longer holds merit

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FontMasterFlex -10 points 3 years ago

No he doesn't. He doesn't owe anyone that. He simply didn't see the tweet. we aren't all obliged to succle at the teat that is "X" at all hours of the day like rabid squirrels. "I didn't see the comment" is a legitimate answer and should bar no further investigation. Get over it.

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agamemnonymous 6 points 3 years ago

It's a brief comment. He has spent longer talking about how he hasn't seen it than it would take to see it, this is disingenuous theater. He's intentionally deflecting so he doesn't have to choose between alienating the fascists that comprise his base, and alienating the moderate R voters that he needs to supplement the fascists if he wants any chance of electability.

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FontMasterFlex 1 point 3 years ago

ok.

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ILikeBoobies 3 points 3 years ago

If you don’t know something then you should learn it

If you don’t care to learn it then the answer should be that you don’t care

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520 1 point 3 years ago

...or he could just say what he said? Not everyone is obligated to pay attention to Musk.

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FontMasterFlex 0 points 3 years ago

Or it has nothing to do with him, so why bother? jfc you people.

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ILikeBoobies 2 points 3 years ago

So basically what I just said, you think he should have said he doesn’t care

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paintbucketholder 2 points 3 years ago

He's running for the office of President of The United States of America, and the multi-billionaire who owns what is still one of the world's most influential social media platforms openly spouts antisemitic rhetoric.

It seems pretty fair to ask a candidate about his view on that issue.

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blazera 2 points 3 years ago

The fuck is this news story?

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leonardo_arachoo 1 point 3 years ago

Maybe he just didn't see it? Smh

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shogun5000 1 point 3 years ago

"News"

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YeOldeDickTwist 1 point 3 years ago
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helenslunch -19 points 3 years ago
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tomi000 1 point 3 years ago

Exactly! Since when is it their job to keep track of political debates and news around the world? Politicians have their own shit to handle, we cant just keep pestering them with public worries.

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helenslunch 2 points 3 years ago
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tomi000 2 points 3 years ago

You did get the /s in my comment tho right?

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helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago
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cuibono 1 point 3 years ago
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helenslunch 0 points 3 years ago
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lolcatnip -1 points 3 years ago

Are you really equating knowing about a widely reported, highly inflammatory statement by one of the most influential people in America with sitting around all day reading tweets?

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helenslunch 1 point 3 years ago
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