WWE SURVIVOR SERIES: WARGAMES! Discussion Thread 11/25/23

3 years ago by TellumSiege to c/SquaredCircle

Tonight, WWE is LIVE from Chicago with Survivor Series: Wargames! The card for the show includes:

Men’s WarGames Match: Drew McIntyre & Judgment Day vs. Seth “Freakin” Rollins, Randy Orton, Cody Rhodes, Jey Uso and Sami Zayn
Women's WarGames Match: Becky Lynch, Bianca Belair, Charlotte Flair & Shotzi vs. Bayley, IYO SKY, Kairi Sane & Asuka
Women's World Championship: Rhea Ripley vs. Zoey Stark
Intercontinental Championship: Gunther vs. The Miz
Dragon Lee vs. Santos Escobar

And more!

Show starts LIVE at 8pm EST | 5pm PST on Peacock. Check your local listings for more information.

TellumSiege 6 points 3 years ago

What a pop for Orton.

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n7gifmdn 6 points 3 years ago

while for the most part I have appreciated they have up on Raw V. Smack Down for Survivor Series, but part of me really hoped to sure the WWE Universe with how good a Nick Aldis v. Adam Peirce match would be.

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JelloBrains 6 points 3 years ago

Does WWE recognize they are both NWA World Heavyweight Champions? I think that's a neat thing they should be pointing out even without a match between them, I'm not even sure Adam can still go, he's been retired for 10 years. It really would have been great to see, maybe WWE could come back around to this for Mania since they have like 10 hours of time to fill those nights.

It feels kind of like the Attitude Era when the WWF barely if at all recognized that the Stooges, Patterson & Brisco, were big wrestlers in their day.

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fu 4 points 3 years ago

@JelloBrains @n7gifmdn @TellumSiege who knows with HHH at the helm. 2 years ago no way, but I have heard that Trips actually has Flair's old Domed Globe on his office wall.

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fu 4 points 3 years ago

@SquaredCircle @n7gifmdn @TellumSiege Two NWA real worlds CHAMPIONS would be a good old school fight. Unfortunately between the casuals and the Smarks it would get booed out of the building

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Travon333 6 points 3 years ago

😂😂 Punk really followed Cody

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32XPlayer 5 points 3 years ago

Gotta think teasing the possibility of Orton not showing up can only backfire if he is there

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32XPlayer 4 points 3 years ago

I take it back, that was really well done

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TellumSiege 5 points 3 years ago

I love the reaction Dom gets. He's like the Don Callis of WWE.

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BowserBasher 2 points 3 years ago

The best part of that was that on every other 10 second countdown, the fans did the countdown. When it came to the countdown for Dom, all you heard were booos. They’d rather boo him than do the countdown.

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JelloBrains 5 points 3 years ago

What do they show on Peacock Premium Plus or whatever the no-ads version is called during all these ads? I forget every month how many ads there are until the PLE is on and they start running.

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n7gifmdn 5 points 3 years ago

According to Cole they are showing them how this match came to be.

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JelloBrains 5 points 3 years ago

I'm not too disappointed in spending only $5 instead of $10 then, I can deal with the ads to miss the recaps. I just wondered if premium customers got segments or something, if it's just videos I'm not upgrading.

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n7gifmdn 5 points 3 years ago

I would gladly pay the $10 (or more) to get the actual WWE network back. The ability to start live events from the beginning alone, not to mention how much better/easier it was to find old stuff. Peacock being locked into the Season X Episode Y just doesn't work right for Wrestling

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g8phcon2 3 points 3 years ago

now this is some #truth. And that's #WhatsUp

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TellumSiege 5 points 3 years ago

Well guess I'm watching the press conference...

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TellumSiege 6 points 3 years ago

...And TK's Twitter account.

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n7gifmdn 5 points 3 years ago

lulz

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GeekFTW 2 points 3 years ago

Gonna be one hell of a bender lmao

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fu 5 points 3 years ago

@SquaredCircle @TellumSiege well bringing Punk back is about the most WWE thing they could do. They gotta fuck with a good thing right? Well hopefully that means Roman is finally going to lose his title.

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TellumSiege 5 points 3 years ago

Who do you guys expect to win this? Team Judgment day or team Cody and friends?

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JelloBrains 5 points 3 years ago

If it's really Orton coming, then Orton almost has to win. Otherwise, I'd like Judgement Day to win, but in winning the cracks continue, I almost expected Damien to bring the briefcase with him just in case he wanted to use it.

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32XPlayer 4 points 3 years ago

I'm leaning team Cody

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n7gifmdn 4 points 3 years ago

Cody. There could be some shenanigans with moneu in the bank/rollins, but Cody will win the match even if RKO no shows or heel turn or whatever

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JelloBrains 5 points 3 years ago

And the roof is gone...

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TellumSiege 5 points 3 years ago

I saw the match ended with twelve minutes to eleven. Figured something big would happen lol.

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JelloBrains 4 points 3 years ago

I'm so happy they realized that Santos works best as his NXT heel character. I love this guy's work and hope he gets pushed towards a title when they are all done breaking records just to break them.

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

I think this is the first time I've seen him since he lost his mask at Triplemania a few years ago. Feels like he is missing something, but I can't tell what it is.

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32XPlayer 2 points 3 years ago

I'm not familiar with his NXT work, but this is way better than what he was doing the rest of the year

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JelloBrains 3 points 3 years ago

In NXT he led the Legado Del Fantasma, clearly an homage to the LWO, but they were heels and had Elektra Lopez instead of Zelina Vega as their manager. On the main roster, he was made second fiddle to Rey Mysterio and forced to be the crappy face we've seen this year. All around his heel work is head and shoulders above his work with the LWO. Obviously, that's my opinion.

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TellumSiege 4 points 3 years ago

This place is going to explode if Punk shows up. The crowd sounds great regardless.

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fu 6 points 3 years ago

@SquaredCircle @TellumSiege at this point in history I would be embarassed to be from Punk's home town

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n7gifmdn 4 points 3 years ago

I'm amazed sometimes by how much Cole sounds like a parody of his Video-game self.

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

Miz's "knee to the groin" of GUNTER looked a lot more like a knee to the gut, which isn't much better.

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

bull! After Bayley's "save" askua's shoulders where still down. Shotzi should have got the win.

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

I guess Rhea is s a heel to Zoey so her retention puts us at Good Guys 2 - 2 Bad Guys

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

Even in defeat Dragon Lee looked great in this WWE PPV debut.

Good Guys 2 - 1 Bad Guys

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

anybody keeping score at home for survivor series, GOOD GUYS 2 -0 BAD GUYS

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32XPlayer 3 points 3 years ago

Good match, Iyo might have spot of the night already locked up

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

"Dragon Lee vs. Santos Escobar"

As a Lucha Libre AAA fan this one peekd my interest.

I'm out of the loop, usually I only watch WWE PPVs, partially because they do such a good job presenting the backstory of each match I don't feel like I have to watch the weekly show.

Last I recall both of these fellows were on NXT. Is this a pre-show match? I had stopped watching the pre-show as they present the same info during the PPV, but this would be worth tuning in for.

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n7gifmdn 3 points 3 years ago

I was very disappointed by the number of times that either team celebrated their success rather than taking advantage of the situation, not the least being Lynch/Flair hug in the middle of the match

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TellumSiege 2 points 3 years ago

I'm a non-WWE watcher also but from what I can tell the Dragon Lee / Escobar match is part of the PPV card. Apparently it was supposed to be Carlito instead of Dragon Lee but the former was "attacked" on Smackdown and is too hurt to wrestle.

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fu 1 point 3 years ago

@TellumSiege @n7gifmdn sounds like a better choice than Carlito to me!

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n7gifmdn 2 points 3 years ago

Escobar used to be Hijo de Fantasmo, no?

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Psymonkee 3 points 3 years ago

Yep. Also King Cuerno in Lucha Underground if you watched that!