Nowhere is safe

3 years ago by 𝕱𝖎𝖗𝖊𝖜𝖎𝖙𝖈𝖍 to c/aboringdystopia

People spend one-third of their lives asleep. What if employees could work during that time … in their dreams?

Prophetic, a venture-backed startup founded earlier this year, wants to help workers do just that. Using a headpiece the company calls the “Halo,” Prophetic says consumers can induce a lucid dream state, which occurs when the person having a dream is aware they are sleeping. The goal is to give people control over their dreams, so they can use that time productively. A CEO could practice for an upcoming board meeting, an athlete could run through plays, a web designer could create new templates—“the limiting factor is your imagination,” founder and CEO Eric Wollberg told Fortune.

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Edit: someone else beat me to it, I cede to you my bruh

Tolookah 43 points 3 years ago

Yeah, fuck that, I'm flying around doing crazy shit in dreams I control. Unless I get paid hourly.

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cerement 26 points 3 years ago

“Yeah boss … I came up with this really cool solution while I was dreaming but I couldn’t remember it when I woke up so I’m gonna need to get some more sleep hours in to try to find it again.”

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EatYouWell 10 points 3 years ago

And you really don't have that level of control over your dreams while lucid dreaming.

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Nepenthe 12 points 3 years ago

Almost never had the pleasure, but I believe one of the main tipoffs that you're dreaming is whatever text you're looking at will be illegible. And they are expecting coding to happen.

Though the more interesting screw up is there exists any CEO anywhere that honestly believes I'm not going to use this for porn.

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800XL 8 points 3 years ago

Ive heard that too, but I have no problem reading things in my dreams. And I make a note about that in my dreams too. Lol.

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creditCrazy 5 points 3 years ago

One one hand this tech would be fun to play with on your own. But on the other having to work day and night is very dystopian. Come to think of it do any of these corpos ever think that humans are still needed in capitalism. Like if you forced everyone to have the work ethic they desire humans would probably not socialize or reproduce. A break free work world would bring humanity to extinction in the most depressing way possible. Edit: also if everyone is spending all their time working then who would be the customers. Who is going to buy the things these corpos want to sell.

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Nepenthe 4 points 3 years ago

do any of these corpos ever think

No.

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ShunkW 5 points 3 years ago

I've had a small number of lucid experiences and one time I was able to literally do whatever I wanted. Including flight and teleportation. I woke up after what felt like a few minutes though, which was a bummer.

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iAvicenna 38 points 3 years ago

Who needs to work 10 hours a day when you can work 24? Company owners are going to be so turned on by these news.

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iAvicenna 17 points 3 years ago

Also I have to say, I love how the limiting factor is our imagination but all they could come up with is about working more.

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set_secret 28 points 3 years ago

It's made by the same person as neuralink. It will never be commercialised.

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Smoogs 28 points 3 years ago

I just solved a coding problem this morning that I couldn’t last night because I RESTED MY BRAIN. I’m not making this up. This just happened.

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AstridWipenaugh 7 points 3 years ago

I took a week off for Thanksgiving and came back to understand Dynamo DB single table patterns I was stuck on before leaving. Sleep learning is real!

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Bougie_Birdie 1 point 3 years ago

Okay, but Dynamo DB is also pure baloney. Who thought a single table to include every type of entity was a good design? I'm frustrated because it works so well, but boy do I hate using it

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AstridWipenaugh 2 points 3 years ago

I disagree, it's quite performant and cost effective. I work for a very large software company and it scales to our needs very well. However, it is emphatically not the solution to everything nor is it a replacement for all traditional RDBMS use cases. It also takes a quite different mindset when thinking about your data than when using SQL.

IMO what it does really well is handle being a persistent data store for well-formed REST API endpoints. When you understand your access patterns and implement your GSIs correctly, a RDBMS can't match the performance even with well tuned queries. Dynamo excels at giving you a record set when you know exactly which set of records you want and it's based on one or two very simple conditions.

Where it falls behind is for data warehousing and reporting use cases. Dynamo is comparatively slow and inefficient when it comes to asking complex questions about the data. RDBMS systems are built for that use case and as such have extensive tools to optimize whatever wild queries you want to throw at it.

If you're interested in learning about single table design, which is not good for all cases, check out this video. I've watched it quite a few times and it's been the biggest help in wrapping my head around how to do the data modeling for it. https://youtu.be/KYy8X8t4MB8

Ok my steam deck finally finished updating. Time to go. 😁

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Luci 24 points 3 years ago

If I can work while I sleep and then not go to my day job.......

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Sanyanov 11 points 3 years ago

No you'd rather be slowly forced into working both

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Luci 9 points 3 years ago

Nah, I'd rather die thanks.

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HubertManne 5 points 3 years ago

thats basically what happened with dual incomes.

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Sanyanov 1 point 3 years ago

Exactly my point. When options for working more appear, there is more room for pressuring people economically, and they all end up working more.

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HubertManne 2 points 3 years ago

Its another reason I would rather be older than younger. My janitor dad owned what I would call a castle (it was beat up but huge. something like the begining of caddy shack where the main character lived) and my mom could devote 40 hours to a combination of housework and errands and managing the kids.

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Swedneck 1 point 3 years ago

not if you unionize

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Sanyanov 1 point 3 years ago

True.

But while unions are incredibly important, their achievement can be quickly reversed the moment they lose the grip.

Better not even start with technologies that can easily be turned against us.

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archomrade 23 points 3 years ago

Anyone who does this when they're stressed out knows how awful it is to be stuck thinking about a work problem over and over again and never feeling truly rested.

Often I do not wake up having solved the problem, I simply wake up feeling like the problem is hopeless because I've been obsessing over it instead of resting and never solving it

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peopleproblems 19 points 3 years ago

Employers: "Software Engineers are too expensive."

Also employers: "Why is our stuff not working?"

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AnalogyAddict 2 points 3 years ago

"Designers are too expensive."

"Why are we late and over budget, and it still barely works?"

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Karlos_Cantana 18 points 3 years ago

Great, now I'll get sexual harassment charges even when I'm sleeping.

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IndiBrony 15 points 3 years ago

The amount of people I've had sex with in my sleep... I'd end up with several life sentences I think.

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DumbAceDragon 18 points 3 years ago

Getting beefbrain so my boss makes a couple extra bucks.

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ChicoSuave 16 points 3 years ago

I'm not sleeping in. It's OT.

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Spacehooks 1 point 3 years ago

Expending the whole bed room.

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RIP_Cheems 15 points 3 years ago

I swear, if I have to start doing work in my sleep, I'm gonna commit a genocide.

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EatYouWell 14 points 3 years ago

Those fuckers are trying to make the Matrix a reality.

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Vladkar 14 points 3 years ago

One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that sleep mask. What dreams of chronic and sustained productivity?

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21racecar12 14 points 3 years ago

This is both draconian and absolutely retarded. Reeks of a venture capitalist who doesn’t know anything about basic biology, psychology, or technology. The lucid dreaming state is not one of intense cognitive performance and reasoning, and even if you were able to do that heavy of a workload while “asleep”, your brain wouldn’t actually be getting any sleep. When you “wake up” you would be absolutely mentally exhausted and have to go back to actual sleep.

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plz1 13 points 3 years ago

That's some LinkedIn lunacy, for sure. Hard pass.

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N0body 13 points 3 years ago

Jokes on you, corpo. I'll sing the Song of Cthulhu and bring his day of madness ever closer.

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fsxylo 12 points 3 years ago

Relax guys, it's just another scam start up to steal money from dumbass investors. It'll never reach a prototype.

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mojo 12 points 3 years ago

That sounds literally impossible

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skulkingaround 6 points 3 years ago

Yeah, I can lucid dream, but it's really difficult to make text look coherent. Even if I could visualize code, it's damn near impossible to retain the details after you wake up.

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spittingimage 12 points 3 years ago

Even your dreams are now corporate IP.

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ShortFuse 11 points 3 years ago

I already code in my sleep. I wake up sometimes and have code concepts ready to go. It's kinda wild.

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PsychedSy 5 points 3 years ago

There's nothing like solving a coding problem in your sleep.

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Tier1BuildABear 3 points 3 years ago

I've literally woken up and rushed to the computer because I came up with an answer to a problem I had while sleeping lol

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gedaliyah 9 points 3 years ago

And here I've been spending just 2/3 of my life in productive wage earning hours like a moron

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ook_the_librarian 7 points 3 years ago

In a world with a solid support structure like universal basic income, where people would never be forced to sleepwork to survive, this could be quite cool. There could be some amazing artist/engineer collabs done.

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feedum_sneedson 7 points 3 years ago

smells like stinky stinky bullshit

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hemko 7 points 3 years ago

I can give a 1 better. Ive developed a technique to write code while drunk.

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readyno 6 points 3 years ago

What you mean to say is you are developing a nervegear and we are closer to SAO than ever

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CCF_100 5 points 3 years ago

SAO, but instead of playing in an RPG, it's just a virtual desk job

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solidsnake2085 3 points 3 years ago

I always wanted an Inception dream machine. What if you taught yourself a skill while in there and brought it out to the real world? I hope that one day those machines exist.

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Swedneck 1 point 3 years ago

i mean to some degree that's specifically the point of dreaming, your brain runs simulations of various stuff to train and double check things.

Like if you've just taken a boat license you'll probably be dreaming about piloting a boat for a while, because the brain wants to make sure that this apparently important task is done right.

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IvyisAngy 2 points a year ago

The thing is, this COULD be great, people with physical impairments or just those who'd prefer to work this way could enjoy thier day without the stress of work.

The problem is that it will 100% be used to extend your existing working hours, so that not a moment goes by your not generating revenue.

Sigh...

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altphoto 1 point a year ago

How do I clock in? But I can't clock out?

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Napain -1 points 3 years ago

why would an engineer write code

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Spacehooks 2 points 3 years ago

it may be faster to make your own tool than put in a ticket to your global support team and then the 20 meetings on documentation and validation asssuming they go it this year. Just for something you could have made yourself in a week. Request like add a pull down to the ordering form takes like a year and that's after 5 calls and a presentation on how this will improve global sales. So much frustrating.

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hemko 2 points 3 years ago

Hey you just described shadow it

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