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hoodatninja 37 points 3 years ago

I deleted my posts/comment history, resigned as a mod, and logged out for good. The best protest you can do is leave at this point. Anything short of private, restricted, or NSFW-abuse only serves to drive traffic for them and allows them to continue to serve ads.

The John Oliver idea was clever but should have stopped after he responded. It is now only driving traffic to the site and giving them classic “haha isn’t the internet funny?” free marketing on news outlets. They’ve even explicitly said in interviews they don’t mind it at all. That’s not a protest. No one is upset to see John Oliver memes on one sub and be in on the joke.

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abff08f4813c 10 points 3 years ago

Well.. this is not quite accurate. It seems that people who are on only to shitpost and protest make less ads revenue for reddit, see https://kbin.social/...

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hoodatninja 10 points 3 years ago

That’s the blackout writ large. It says nothing about the pics protest specifically. Going private/NSFW has done by far the most damage as indicated by the admins swift and angry response to it. No one on /r/pics has been removed as mod over this. Dozens of others have.

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abff08f4813c 3 points 3 years ago

Here's a better one that points to a connection between protest engagement and lower ad revenue : https://kbin.social/...

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hoodatninja 7 points 3 years ago

I feel like maybe we are talking at cross purposes and possibly agree but that there is some misunderstanding over my original point.

Both of your articles are showing that going private and other tactics had a depressing effect on Reddit traffic, neither of these articles talk about pics and John Oliver, which is specifically what I was saying is ineffective. The articles are talking about the impact on traffic by subs going private, which means they do not come up in searches and they can’t run ads. I agree with the articles, hence why I said subs should go private/restricted/NSFW if they want to actually protest. In addition, users should consider not participating/mods should resign outside of specific cases such as NSFW abuse and highlighting the API changes.

From my earlier comment:

Anything short of private, restricted, or NSFW-abuse only serves to drive traffic for them and allows them to continue to serve ads.

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Flaky_Fish69 4 points 3 years ago

has anyone created a "to Fediverse I go" gifs with John Olliver's head 'shopped on? cuz.... that's probably the only thing worth it.

....naw you're right.

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Frog-Brawler 30 points 3 years ago

Meh… I’m not going to spend any of my time going to whatever that other website is to “protest.” I come to news aggregators to read news. That’s why I’m on kbin now instead of that other website that killed 3rd party apps.

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aeternum 29 points 3 years ago

The best way to protest is to delete your comments/accounts, and never go there again. Anything else is just clicks for ads.

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trifictional 8 points 3 years ago

I somewhat disagree. The best way to protest is to try and get as many people to switch to Lemmy as possible to give this platform the opportunity to take off.

If you have a favourite niche community, create a Lemmy page for it and see if you can get the mods of the sub to advertise it or put it in the sidebar at least.

It’s going to be a bit of a ghost town at the start here until we can get some user growth and those niche pages are huge for it.

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BlackCoffee 12 points 3 years ago

My thoughts when people still want to strike on reddit;

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jherazob 9 points 3 years ago

Already deleted my 17 years old account and nuked all it's comments, plus a couple secondary accounts, not going back there

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PabloDiscobar 9 points 3 years ago

Don't. The last thing we want is to associate the fediverse with some kind of anarchist world where everything is trash and everyone insults everyone. Leave the memers to reddit.

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Jaysyn 8 points 3 years ago

I don't use Reddit.

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geoffervescent 8 points 3 years ago

The best de- endorsement will come from people's experience on reddit as the quality of user engagement drops. There are people who genuinely will never give a shit and will stay there, but those are exactly the sort of lazy minds who made up the critical mass of the shallow "hivemind." Id rather we make this a community that encourages independent thought more than bandwagoning.

Don't waste your time engaging them on that platform unless you're a child, douchebag, or troll. If your posts are actually good content, it sends a mixed message that good independent thinking redditors are whethering the shitstorm. Your actions will speak louder than your words, and our collective absence from their platform will speak volumes.

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Dr_Fetus_Jackson 7 points 3 years ago

My shit is deleted, and I'll not be going back. That's the absolute most I'll do for what's left that dumpster fire. Reddit was fun (no pun intended) while it lasted, and now it's time to move on.

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Midnitte 7 points 3 years ago

They don't need the traffic, just use the fediverse instead.

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Sam_uk 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 701434, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
CrowAlethe 4 points 3 years ago

Logging out of Reddit for last time today after this stuff.

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aceshigh 3 points 3 years ago

so your strategy is spamming reddit... sometimes the answer is to just let things go. it didn't work out as we hoped, but we've found a great alternative - so lets put energy in here.

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hallucination 3 points 3 years ago

If you're planning on continuing protesting there, then yes. Only dedicate any posts and comments to the protest and for protest purposes. Otherwise, the best thing to do is delete and move on. Like other comments said, it's all just traffic for them, however if you're going to be there anyway, you may as well be there for a cause.

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Pregnenolone 3 points 3 years ago

If you’re on Reddit, you’re helping them sell advertising. Simple as that. Don’t go = they get less money.

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Puffymumpkins 3 points 3 years ago
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kratoz29 2 points 3 years ago

I think r/pics is the only one holding the protest or are there others like it?

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RestrictedAccount 2 points 3 years ago

Interesting /u/spez must be too scared of Oliver to take action. If that writers’s strike keeps going, this could be brutal.

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NotTheOnlyGamer 1 point 3 years ago

I decided that since they don't want me using the software of my choice to browse the website, I'd switch to the full intended experience. I'm only using the official software in its most updated form. When the experience is inferior to either web-browsing kbin, Lemmy instances, or Mastodon instances (or using Tusky to browse local views of mastodon instances), I just don't bother using it. When the ads bother me, I don't bother using it.

Then again, I also engage with every ad. After all, an advertiser decided that my interests must be in line with theirs, the least I can do for them is click on the linkout, and then ignore all upsells and monetary conversions. After all, if I've never spent money on Reddit, and have been a subscriber of FMHY and Piracy, the platform and the advertisers must know I'll never make a monetary conversion; so they must be targeting me for some other reason.

In a more realistic sense, I click on the ads because most advertisers pay on CPC, and by clicking the ads and not converting, you drive up the cost-per-acquisition, which means the campaign is weaker and poorly optimized. It's also a problem for brand-awareness plays because when you see the ad get linkouts without conversion or remarketable data, you can be pretty sure that people are now aware of the brand and will actively avoid it. It's a challenge all marketing faces, actually. You have to get them in a targeted way or you risk burning a future customer.

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