Taxpayer-Subsidized Seminars Train Cops To Violate the Constitution

3 years ago by HLMenckenFan to c/politics

A report from New Jersey's comptroller criticizes Street Cop Training for encouraging illegal traffic stops.
Telorand 50 points 3 years ago

ACAB.

I don't care if "not all cops, tho." They know about this shit, and they don't do anything about it. They're supposed to (in theory) prevent illegality, and yet this stuff gets a pass.

It's no wonder Fundigelicals are bosom buddies, because they do the same thing with religion.

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ericisshort 8 points 3 years ago

They always say “it’s just a few bad apples” and conveniently forget the point of the analogy is that the bad apples spoil the whole bunch. So until the little piggies remove ALL of the bad apples, ACAB is 100% correct.

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phoenixz -6 points 3 years ago

Yeah I don't think it's that easy. Saying "all in this group are evil" is the same argument used to gas Jews in WWII, it's a really dumb and short sighted argument.

Yes, there is a LOT of shit going on and a lot of police officers are bad, but that doesn't mean they all are and just because they're not doing enough against this, doesn't mean they don't care or don't try or even can try...

With situations like these "it's not that simple" is a much better statement than acab, which as much fun as it may be to say, is just dumb and short sighted

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zalgotext 10 points 3 years ago

Saying "all in this group are evil" is the same argument used to gas Jews in WWII

Comparing German Jews in WWII to present day American law enforcement is an insult and you should be ashamed of yourself.

just because they're not doing enough against this, doesn't mean they don't care or don't try or even can try...

They're not just "not doing enough", they're actively rooting out good cops from the force and punishing them for being good! While the bad cops continue being bad, all under the protection of their union! The system is corrupt from the top down, and its members fight to keep it that way!

With situations like these "it's not that simple" is a much better statement than acab, which as much fun as it may be to say, is just dumb and short sighted

What's dumb and short-sighted is downplaying the danger the American policing system poses with the same bullshit "they're not all bad" argument we've all heard for years. Answer me this: if they're not all bad, why do they keep getting worse?

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phx -2 points 3 years ago

they're actively rooting out good cops from the force and punishing them for being good

Which is actually one reason I have the ACAB acronym. There are good cops, and they get shit from both ends either for not toeing the blue-line or just for being cops.

If somebody actually does get shot, the ACAB crew is out in full force while often ignoring the lengthy record of crime and violence of the involved - or even camera evidence - while stating it was obviously just a cop looking for somebody to shoot.

Fuckers are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy where nobody in their right mind would want to be a cop

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Telorand 3 points 3 years ago

Works for me. They enjoy far too much indemnity. It's long past time they had to answer to the law they supposedly uphold.

But you missed the point. There are good cops. The problem is, they see the bad cops and choose their job over blowing the whistle. And given their line of work, that makes them spineless and complicit.

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Fedop 4 points 3 years ago

Not trying to make a point or anything, but it only took one comment for you to bring up a Hitler reference. Isn't that like loosing the game or something? Means you only have a weak point?

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KairuByte 4 points 3 years ago

It was that easy for an ex cop to agree that acab in a different comment. They agreed to the point that they said they themselves weren’t even a good cop.

When the cops themselves are agreeing with acab… I mean, believe them.

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phoenixz 1 point 3 years ago

this one anonymous person on the Internet claiming to be a cop agreed with me!

Yeah, that isn't exactly an argument. Not all police officers (can we pleeeaaase stop calling them the "cool" sounding "cop"?) are bad, especially outside of the US, but even inside the US you have loads of good guys and gals wanting to make a difference and make the world a better place.

Acab is the exact same behavior as those bad apples. Don't be like the bastards...

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reverendsteveii 1 point 3 years ago

didn't say they were all evil. said some of them are evil and the rest ignore it.

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phoenixz 0 points 3 years ago

The first a in acab means all so there is that... Beyond that, I'm sure there are loads that don't care and ignite it but there are also loads that do care but it simply isn't that simple. You can't just go on a lone crusader's path, burn your career and future to make ymreal meaningful change. It's not that easy.

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teamevil 28 points 3 years ago
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Zippy 4 points 3 years ago

Union for me, not for thee.

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Techpriest2 24 points 3 years ago
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vaseltarp 8 points 3 years ago

Only 6 years for raping a rape victim? Am I the only one who thinks that sentece should be way higher?

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DAMunzy 5 points 3 years ago

Only good cop.... Well, you found another way: getting out and doing something constructive with your life. 👍

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Techpriest2 9 points 3 years ago
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JoJoGAH 7 points 3 years ago

All the more reason we need to #stopcopcity

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dangblingus 6 points 3 years ago

Police exist to protect the interests of capital owners. Not your constitutional "rights".

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reverendsteveii 4 points 3 years ago

read this, ask yourself "why would police be against body cameras?" and realize that it's because they think their job entails constantly and knowingly breaking the law.

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BigMacHole 3 points 3 years ago

So? The Constitution ONLY matters if I'm using it to defend a School Shooter!

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Tertle950 1 point 3 years ago

i love the government so much :)))

Hoping at least ONE undue search warrant that results from this garners a big fat lawsuit

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some_guy -1 points 3 years ago

And this is different from how my taxes are spent why?

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