BreadDog
6
30
BreadDog

@kbin.social

BreadDog 29 points 3 years ago

I think there is probably a mix of things going on.

First, the angriest people already did leave.

Second, people suck at protesting. I mean, the entire reason it was a 2-day protest instead of defaulting to indefinite is because the idea of sacrificing your own habits in a protest blows people's minds. There is a reason "slacktivism" is a thing.

Third, there is probably a segment of the user base who basically got their addiction checked. Social media is addicting, and reddit is not exception, I mean, even I've kept habitually opening the site this whole week just cause that has been my browsing habit for over a decade. It's just how I've check ed news.

And then lastly, the protest reached the more casual core of people who may have not even known about the protest before hand or understood the extent of it, and they are angry that this thing that didn't affect them took away all their content.

path: 0 273239, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 2
BreadDog 29 points 3 years ago

I'm just waiting for the real Streisand effect to kick in if they ban /r/redditalternatives

path: 0 39188 39232, hotness: undefined, score: 29, children: 1
BreadDog 25 points 3 years ago

To be honest, I had such low expectations for the blackout, I'm actually surprised how much impact it did have. This was never going to be the reddit killer. There is a reason why the 1% principle exists. Most people don't care, and most people who do aren't going to actually put in the effort to change their browsing habits. It's part of why being an early member of new sites like these are the best, because the people joining are the people who are actively seeking out new communities.

path: 0 199059, hotness: undefined, score: 25, children: 2
BreadDog 24 points 3 years ago

There are so many ways they could have made it viable. Like comically easy. But that was never what they were interested in. The thing that they aren't willing to just come out and say, is that their own app is built to generate advertising revenue. They have absolutely zero interest in fostering a 3rd party community, and the only concessions they are going to make are for things that actually have a chance at saving the spending money (i.e. make sure the free labor they get from moderators stays and make sure other people deal with questions like accessibility).

path: 0 37530 37706, hotness: undefined, score: 24, children: 1
BreadDog 19 points 3 years ago

Steve actually doubled down on the blackmail accusation when we have to recording, my god this is some juicy drama.

path: 0 36777, hotness: undefined, score: 19, children: 0
BreadDog 14 points 3 years ago

Its both a value add and a negative. For those more focused on their own community (Like beehaw) it's an obvious positive. But for many users, losing access to certain communities on your own instance of choice is going to be a negative. I personally don't blame Beehaw for favoring the former. I think improved moderation tools and more granular federation would at least make the move less of a blow to users.

path: 0 199669 200450 200754, hotness: undefined, score: 14, children: 0
BreadDog 13 points 3 years ago

Yes and no, as a 12 year vet.

Reddit is not what it was when I joined. Back in the early 2010's reddit really felt like the internet's evolution from forums. Not going to pretend it was the first, but it really did feel like something was special about it. The community aspect was really important back then. All of the sudden, it felt like you could literally build a community around anything, with little effort, and the "Build it and they will come" factor would kick in.

But things have spoiled since then. We have over a decade worth of "Eternal Septembers", and being a redditor turned into "being a redditor" has turned into, we'll it's just another part of social media infrastructure. Pretty much everybody I know who has use the site has basically sectioned themselves off from using the site as a a whole and just have their specific subs that they browse. I'm a programmer so I basically just use it for the programming subs and different games I play like OSRS, Factorio, etc.

And I guess, a last thought, I don't think reddit is going to die from this. I would wager the vast majority of the userbase really doesn't give a shit, and to be honest, that is fine. Like I said, reddit is part of internet social infrastructure at this point. It's probably still going to be useful to prefix google searches with "reddit some product" to find the best human reviews of that product. But for me, I don't really feel the need to keep using it day to day. I'm looking for a community and I can find it elsewhere.

path: 0 30009, hotness: undefined, score: 13, children: 0
BreadDog 10 points 3 years ago

Ostensibly they don't wish to scale at the expense of the quality of their community.

path: 0 200395 200844, hotness: undefined, score: 10, children: 0
BreadDog 9 points 3 years ago

They aren't saying to go to their instance, they are saying to go to a different thread. This is a federated thread from beehaw. This is the thread that they are mentioning, accesible from kbin: https://kbin.social/...

The curious thing though is that they locked the thread, but we are still posting here. I'm wondering if that is a symptom of the current federation issues or if thread locking isn't a feature that kbin can replicate yet

path: 0 185237 189181 189182, hotness: undefined, score: 9, children: 2
BreadDog 8 points 3 years ago

A part of me believes they will give some bs reason to keep their "scab" mods immune, but I would love if they didn't and the chaos that would ensue.

path: 0 255893 257903, hotness: undefined, score: 8, children: 0
BreadDog 7 points 3 years ago

There is traction, and in fact already a fix in review.

path: 0 185799 187828 190806, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 0
BreadDog 7 points 3 years ago

I'm sure there are some people purchasing those, but you also get some for free. Looks like I have 800 worth I could give out.

path: 0 37474 37631, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 2
BreadDog 7 points 3 years ago

Certainly so. From a sort of... sociological point I'm wondering what the impacts are of major instances growing independent of each other. I feel like I can already feel it with kbin and lemmy both growing separately during the blackout. I'm wondering if the trend for major instances is going to be where each one has their own unique culture or if they will eventually homogenize.

Only real concern here, although I didn't participate during the mastodon surge last year, I heard that defederation became a bit of an issue with how common there. Granted, I feel like the impact is probably less here with the fact that you are interacting with topics rather than people.

path: 0 199444 199672, hotness: undefined, score: 7, children: 7
BreadDog 6 points 3 years ago

So business as usual for reddit

path: 0 36246 36869, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 0
BreadDog 5 points 3 years ago

Yup, exactly. Welcome to the fediverse!

path: 0 190872 191072, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 12
BreadDog 5 points 3 years ago

The true fear is when everything passes locally and then suddenly fails on the CICD pipeline.

path: 0 39323, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 1
BreadDog 4 points 3 years ago path: 0 194279, hotness: undefined, score: 4, children: 0
BreadDog 3 points 3 years ago

For reasons no one can fathom

The ROM hacking community takes this personally.

ROM hacking and well, just retro development like this is awesome. I think there is something to be said about the creativity that comes with a limited canvas and so on

path: 0 200390, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0
BreadDog 3 points 3 years ago

Look like you are on kbin as well, the top level comment is actually on the bottom of the page. Weird UI choice, hopefully it can be brought to the top

path: 0 37324 37373 37766, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 1
BreadDog 3 points 3 years ago

Ah interesting. I actually see this post over there so it seems replies from kbin are actually federating now. The question is if I will see my own comment.

Edit: I do! Great news

path: 0 190346 190733, hotness: undefined, score: 3, children: 0

thanks for using Leebra!

go to feed...