I actually did, there was no reason to suspect bots would stop working.

For anyone interested, they explained the reasoning behind this particular defederation here:

https://docs.beehaw.org/...

At the end of the day beehaw wants to be tightly moderated and it's kind of imposible to properly moderate huge amounts of users at the moment with their tools so they decided to ban big instances that don't require any verification to join

This reminds me of an expression in Spanish

"Todo junto se escribe separado y separado se escribe todo junto"

Which I just discovered is the same on English lol :

"All together is written separately and separately is written all together"

I agree but with slight differences, I don't think it's only about power but more on the first thing, they have built communities for over a decade, to just leave is extremely difficult when you have poured this much work and time into the thing, it might be like an abusive relationship but they still love the places they've built.

That being said, some of mods have left big subs, but it's kind of difficult to get everyone on board.

Lastly I do think this is impactful, it literally strips one of the most "prestigious" and well recognized sub of all the functions that made it special, only doing the bare minimum to keep it alive

I keep asking but haven't gotten an answer, why must instances that block meta also block those that federate with META? Wouldn't blocking META be enough, as you wouldn't see their posta, nor users, nor comments in any way after blovking the domain?

Is this punitive or is yhere a reason I'm mising?

You realize the downvotes came from your comments and not the post itself right?

You made the shittiest attack helicopter joke I've seen in a while

Also it literally goes against this community rules and the instance as a whole, wonder why you are still allowed to post.

Go join truth social or some other alt right fork instead of waisting everyone's time

It also supports peertube!

I use it a lot, just a heads up for anyone interested, on google play the app is paid, but the app is free on F-droid and uploaded by the same devs, no features missing to my knowledge.

Think of the google play app more like a donation (or if you are like me, buy it because you are too lazy to got to F-droid) but be aware the app is actually free and one of the best when it comes to mastodon.

A feauture it has is that it lets you have as many timelines as you want, be it for instances or even tags so that you are not restricted to your subscribed, local and all but you can just choose a random instance and save their timeline to browse whenever you want.

Edit: forgot to mention, technically it supports the entire fediverse, but you will be restricted to your mastodon UI if you follow lemmy or kbin accounts, which means you will see likes and boosts instead of upvote/downvote. It is not ideal, in fact I would recommend having a separate lemmy app, but you can do it.

Be the change you want to see in the world!

Also sub to smaller and more contrnt specific instances? Personally I have been having fun interacting with communities from my hobbies (most specifically manga) and at the end of the day that's what matters most.

Disco Elysium at 75% off is a steal!

Also, Kingdom Come Deliverance, 75% off and rven cheaper than Disco Elysium. This one is hands down one of the best modern rpg games I have played, especially because you can play without the minimap relying on directions given by NPCs, it is so inmersive and it has a plethora of interesting mechanics and an amazingly beautiful world.

POV: you see someone who doesn't believe what Andrew Tate has said himself but is a fan

The fact we are seeing posts with almost 3k upvotes has me really impressed

Why? If you have blocked meta shouldn't you already be exempt from seeing comments and posts by their users on other instances? Why is this punitive approach needed

Edit: (Alongside downvoting, an explanation might be better suited to change people's minds, I just eant to know the advantage of this approach since you are excluding yourself from many users and you would have already blocked meta in this scenario)

Why would you not be welcome? Is it for your political opinions? Even if it were, I don't think they would personally shun you unless it entails attacking minorities.

That aside, and having said that of course it is everyone's perrogative to judge this behavior, I personally feel it is an exaggeration. Not every instance is about free speech nor should they be, at the end of the day the fediverse is about creating communities, one is able and should shape them into what their vision of that is. This is not authoritarianism, in this case they said it is due to their inability to moderate.

Even if it weren't for that, it is good that communities don't federate with every instance, aa I said, not everyone is about free speech and changing opinions some are here to have a good time and for that adequate protection is necessary.

I myself prefer deciding myself when to block other instances, so I joined one that let's users decide. But if other instances decided to block us I would understand and either move on or join another instance to interact with them without thinking much about it (having multiple accounts is kind of easy on the apps,)

I think I'm kind of used from servers blocking one another from my time on mastodon and I've seen the necessity of the practice, for example an anime focused group blocking bot instances, brigading, alt right groups, etc.

Anime subs are flooded with pervs openly sexualizing children and calling for porn.

So... Pretty much the same as before July 1st /s

I use fedilabs, don't know if the other apps have caught up (hope they did) but the timeline function where you can add timelines from whatever instance you like and also have tags as timelines is so OP.

Since I spend most of my time browsing other instance timelines that feature is a must.

You are quite the poetic person, I bookmarked this post because of how much I liked the analogies and expressions, I really like how you write!

That being said, really liked your observations and your description of the effects of it being FOSS.

I do feel thought that you didn't really give concrete suggestions, as I understand it your points are:

• take the freedom this platform gives, now it doesn't have to be decided with corporate interests behind, just look at the community.
• the issues this platform currently faces are for yhe communities to take creative approaches to, not necessarily to imitate what is already done since it's a chance to do things different.
• all those that just came in should trust on the people building this communities, rome wasn't built in a day.

It is more of an inspiring message rather than concrete recommendations right? Not a criticism, I'm just checking if I got it right.

That said, once again, beautifully put.

Wait how has Maatodon treated BIPOC? Is this about the users or a particular instance? Frankly I had never heard about this, I frequently use mastodon and it's really welcoming of queer people (I feel overall, but at the very least it is true comparedd with the rest of social media) so I didn't think there would be an issue with POC.

While I do find it funny to have pronouns in a semi-anonymous community, the reason has to do with the community they want to build, especially it being on the progressive side of culture, here is an expert from their mission statement:

As a news aggregator and a social media outlet, with a focus on being a safe and accepting space, we strive to create a positive social impact. We will also help to connect underprivileged and minority individuals with education and civic participation by promoting a healthier online experience.

Aside from that I feel it's common modern internet etiquette to have your pronouns available, and while I do find it funny to have when you are technically anonymous it probably makes communication easier and helps erase the internet bias of thinking every single persin you meet is a man.

Edit: now this was an unexpected turn of events, I didn't expect OP to be this much of an imbecile.

I agree with the sentiment, I'm not a fan of preemptively blocking meta on instance level, especially when everyone was touting about how the fediverse is corporation resistant and by design it is resilient because of it's horizontal nature, but at the first sign of threat they resort to the nuclear option.

Having said that, Lemmy specifically lacks tools on the user level, especially blocking instances. If a user doesn't want to associate at all that is understandable (privacy concerns, not wanting to interact with hate groups, etc) but right now they can only block communities and users individually, which would make it impossible to block meta.

Lastly, I feel there are avenues that haven't been properly explored, like forcing them to open source if they want to federate. (On the grounds of privacy concerns and security) In practice that would be the same as blocking them, but it would laid out a good foundation for new companies that want to enter the space without having to discriminate on a case by case basis.

Problem is that blocking is the nuclear option and everyone blovking before something comes out, which no one knows the danger yet like a hate speach platform would entail, goes against the spirit of the fediverse.

Embrace, extend and extinguish.

It was a more common tactic back in the day for tech giants to destroy competition omfor open software specifically.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/...