I think me and Ahmed gave the same answer, but with mine being indirect using an example, and Ahmed's answer being direct, so maybe people had a harder time understanding Ahmed's answer.

I'm not so sure about the reasoning here, Fascists also drink water, breath air, and eat food (at least until they become "the only good Fascist")

The material conditions determines the consciousness, the superstructure shapes peoples view of reality, the ideological belief that people's ideas are separate from the conditions of their life and the metaphysical belief that historical events are independent and separate from each other doesn't support the existence of Nazi Germany (or Fascist Italy or Imperialist Japan), doesn't explain why people would do such horrible things in one circumstance yet wonderful things in another, yet Dialectical Materialism as applied to History does, Fascists aren't born, they are made, and it isn't a magical decision pulled from the void, or heaven or hell or a soul that makes them, but rather the shit those around them tells them, in the news paper, on the radio, along with material conditions like starving or being worried you'll end up on the street, and the Capitalist controlled misinformation sources tells you it is this or that persons fault you are suffering, anyone convenient and that isn't the Capitalists.

Pacifism is that lofty luxury that those who want to actually have a future cannot afford as Fascists wont hesitate to shoot us in the face thinking that it'll somehow make life better for themselves, and the further into Fascist Ideology they are pulled by Capitalist lies the more painful it would be for the Fascist to believe what they are doing are mistakes.

Those suffering and dying under slavery and oppressing cannot turn up their noses at the idea of using the tools soaked in their own blood the masters used against them back onto the masters as a part of becoming free. Capitalism has already murder well over a billion people the world over to maintain it's death grip over us.

"Propaganda" "Propagating", interesting, that makes a lot of sense. As for manipulation, it is a bit of a loaded term, when exposed to new information, one may make a different decision than they otherwise would have, you could say that the exposure to that new information had "manipulated" them, but that wouldn't make the information necessarily untrue or the "manipulation" as being a "bad thing" (metaphysics territory).

As far as lies go, you don't need them nor would they even be all that useful when what one advocates for is the truth anyway. (like Scientific Socialism(Marxism Leninism))

Thanks for the mini history lesson by the way.

Thanks BTW, it was reading your posts on lemmy.ml that got me started on this path in the first place, I'd probably still be believing all sorts of absurd lies against Socialist countries if not for you, it has truly opened my mind to an amazing world of both possibilities and a far more hopeful current reality. (that and the depth of the Capitalists crimes against humanity whose true depth I hadn't known)

Really, I used to live in an utterly hopeless darkness where I thought the only future for humanity was extinction, and it had been eating me up inside, ML Theory enabled me to see the light of humanity, just how beautiful humans can be if given the right conditions, and China has given me astronomically massive hope for the future that I'd still be blind too otherwise.

Thank you, Comrade.

This post is an excellent example of why reading Marxist Leninist Theory should not be treated as optional, there is so much wrong with the post I'm not even sure where to start, and I don't really have the energy for it either, so unfortunately we'll just have to leave it at that. (BTW Cowbee has an excellent guide to help you get started Basic and Advanced)

I struggle to pay attention to long videos (it's an hour long) unless I'm already interested in it already, so I'll take your word for it (pretty sure I have ADHD or something), on the other hand I'd love an article or a PDF file I can just read, the interaction of having to actively pay attention to read helps focus my attention, and so I can work through hundreds of pages of a PDF after maybe a good week, but an hour long video is a bit much.

As far as (so called) "isreal" goes, there existence is highly dependent on US support, more concrete action to disrupt anything going to them from the US, if successfully done, may be more effective at stopping their crimes against humanity. A successful Revolution would end the support completely, but perhaps there are ...illegal to say... sort of things that an organized effort could pull off in the mean time (though such things can't be safely discussed in a public forum.) (hypothetically) (in minecraft)

As fiction exists but describes things that may not exist, I think the answer is also yes.

The "Founding Fathers" (rich slavers) had set up the "Democracy" (of the rich) with "Checks and Balances" to prevent the "Tyranny of the Majority" (Actual Democracy) precisely so the Capitalist Class (them) would remain in complete control. Considering this, it is very unlikely the modern Capitalist Class would somehow not be aware of the ways their own class has set things up to keep themselves on top and the rest of us underfoot. It is much more likely they know exactly what they are doing up on the stage, that all the real decision making is done behind closed doors, that the Billionaires and Trillionaires get the final say, and that the electoral clown show in the big party tent exists to fool the populace, only different from the start in that they got better at it. I remember when Biden straight up looked like he was having an orgasm in response to Trump "winning the election" as if it's what he wanted to happen, like say, because it would mean they can get everything they want WITHOUT having to hide the shit they do, and so Trump also functions as a scapegoat, if they get everything the want to just "cast all the blame on Trump" Trump goes off to live in blood soaked luxury, having done his job, then the Democrats swoop in to "save the day". Such a tactic can only work however if people fall for the clown show and don't realize that it is the entire Capitalist system itself that is the problem and the only way forward is to overthrow it and replace it with a Socialist system.

That is an issue, though with that in mind one major difference between Capitalism and Socialism is that Capitalism doesn't really care if Cops are abusive sacks of shit, so long as they keep serving the interests of Capital, on the other hand, in Socialism the whole point of the system is to best serve the interests and well being of the people in what ever capacity the current level of development of the country can provide, and so while Capitalism let's Cops fester with power hungry racists, Socialism actively works to root out and remove corruption, finding and kicking out the power abusers.

I don't know about the history of the Church, but I do know that the word has been used for the handing out of legitimate and accurate information on a paper medium as a way of spreading awareness when one is censored by the State and cannot use the normal channels, and it has been used this way for a long long time before the use of it to mean the same as "lies" was popular.

Don't worry about it, most Liberals (note Conservatives are also Liberals) have been fed lies their entire lives to demonize countries like China, and also many people (not just Liberals) have a hard time separating the misuse of a tool from the tool itself (Capitalists use AI against humanity) and so for these two reasons I was already expecting to get down voted, but it is perfectly fine as I do not take it personally, when a challenge comes to a persons world view, a common defensive reaction is to lash out in some way.

There are two major errors in this text, the first is in failing to understand the class nature of the oppression, such that it is treated as "black people versus white people" when in reality it is "working class versus billionaire ruling class", when understood like this the 10 to 1 against us becomes closer to a million to one in our favor, it is useful for the ruling class to keep the people fighting amongst each other and not against them, so they spread lies and nonsense (racism is useful to Capitalism, so they spread it around).

The second error is in thinking there even is a non violent path in the first place, as the root of the problem is Capitalism, it has no conscious or empathy, and will sooner kill us all then give up it's power over us. And so a small, short, but condensed (by comparison) moment of violent Revolution is needed to finally end the ongoing huge, constant, but usually dispersed and often hidden from the public view violence of Capitalism once and for all, by building Socialism on it's parasitic corpse. (and maybe dance on it's grave a little).

Ultimately, regardless of what metaphysical beliefs one may have, nobodies "God" is going to come down and save us, we must save ourselves, and for that we must have solidarity, work together, organize and work for the overthrow of the root cause of the oppression all people feel under the yoke of Capitalism, the staggered level of oppression in Capitalism is a "feature not a bug" as it keeps the people fighting each other, that must be overcome. (mutual aid can help with this)

I think you misread my intentions, I would never intentionally defend Zionists (Fascists), my focus was on whether or not bullying was an effective tactic to change a persons thinking, but I also don't believe someone that has gone full Fascist can be reached anyways. The other point having to do with it being more important to work together with Anti Fascists to put an end to the conditions that support Fascism even being a thing, and hence "reaching those that can be reached" (to organize with for fighting Fascism). And finally I want to mention that it isn't enough to point out Fascists being Fascists, "naming and shaming" doesn't make the problem go away, for that Capitalism needs to be over thrown (and it can be done again)

Just to be clear, Cops being bad is not an inherent property of them in and of itself, but rather Cops serve the State, and in a Capitalist country, the State serves Capital, and so the Cops also serve Capital, but in a Socialist country, such as China, the Cops are completely different as the State actually serves the interest of the overall masses, and so the Cops also by extension.

Democrats and Republicans aren't actually against each other, they pretend to be two different parties as it is an effective psy-op to keep the populace believing in a Reformist path to change, so we do not pursue a Revolutionary path instead. As long as the populace continues to believe a Reformist path (like voting) is able to save them, the Capitalists can continue doing what ever they want, only Revolution can save us (IE we must save ourselves by overthrowing the Capitalists), and only once the people in general realize this, can Revolution actually succeed. It is also why we must keep pointing out to people how the system is rigged against us, how as long as we live in Capitalism Democracy is a lie and the oppression and exploitation and U.S. bombings will continue.

My impression of Anarchists is one who is unable to separate the use of power (authority) from the misuse of it under Capitalism to oppress and exploit the masses as the result of trauma from experiencing this oppression (including indirectly by seeing it used on others while having empathy) and so making it psychologically difficult to confront this error in understanding the nature of power and it's necessity to suppress the Capitalists once the Revolution succeeds so that a counter revolution doesn't just take it all away again. That, and also often still having a lot of views of past and current Socialist countries that is in line with CIA/MI6/MOSSAD misinformation about them.

Edit: Even though Russia has gotten "Shock Doctrine" 'd into a Capitalist system (at an enormous cost to life) their position is in opposition to the Capitalist Imperialist Hegemony of the "Core Countries" (Global North) as they have been preparing to carve up Russia for them selves since the USSR was destroyed, forcing Russia to fight back, this makes Russia's position Revolutionary (Revolution is relative, Capitalism overthrowing Feudalism is an example of a Revolution, where as Capitalist Imperialism overthrowing anything is more akin to a predator killing it's prey and eating it's corpse.) as well as Anti Imperialist, this is why there is so much "news" that has tried to paint the Azov Kiev Regime of the Euromaiden Color-Revolution as "legitimate" and "heroic" while also demonizing Russia, misrepresenting Putin, and spreading racism such as calling Russians "orcs". Communists talk of "Critical Support" for Russia in acknowledgement of the fact that they are Capitalists (but not Imperialists) while also understanding that right now, they are on the right side of history as they're fighting against the Global Capitalist Imperialist Hegemony of the Global North.

It wont just magically happen on it's own, if we only wait for it we are more likely to see the inside of a US death camp as the Capitalist rulling class is getting scared and desperate and have been laying the foundation for the people to be moved further into Fascism for a long time. It is possible only with our willingness to organise together within one or more (cooperating) Revolutionary Parties to learn and use Marxist Leninist Theory to slowly awaken Class Consciousness within the population and prepare the way for a successful Revolution supported by the newly awakened masses. This has succeeded many times already, even though the USSR unfortunately collapsed, Cuba, the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, Vietnam, Laos, and the People's Republic of China are still standing against all the Capitalist Imperialist hostile odds, and China in particularly is more technologically and scientifically advanced then the US by now, and have provided enormous improvement to the lives of everyone they get involved with. It is why the Capitalist Imperialist "Core Countries" (Global North) are so desperate to smear them with endless lies and nonsense not based in reality or evidence, and the CIA/MI6/MOSSAD assert their control and spread such misinformation via "news" (Propaganda is basically just another name for this give or take), Hollywood, Social Media AI bots, Youtube algorithmic control, and even our very Video Games (do people believe Call of Duty is politically neutral).

With all of that they shape our very view of reality to make us support things against our own interests, and to avoid learning anything real about the countries that threaten Capital.

Edit: I was a little confusing about the point on propaganda, I mean that it is more or less another word for news, mostly involving the handing out of pamflets or leaflets, it has been twisted into being the same as saying "misinformation" very likely as a way of discrediting bottom up, glass roots style movements (what the working class has access to as a way of communicating among the populace) while leaving the Capitalists corporate "news" reputationally intact.

If you seriously support having a Revolution in the US then reading Theory is not optional, there are errors upon errors upon errors that people inevitably fall into if they do not have a correct understanding of the world, it's history, and how society, economy, the state, Capitalism and so on actually work, which kills a Revolution and result in horrible failure. Cowbee (I think, or maybe it was yogthot or how ever the name is spelt) has a good beginners reading list you can work through, at the least you should read works by Marx, Engels, and Lenin at a minimum.

In order to effectively break the system you need organized Revolution, and for that it must be supported by the masses, and for mass support it must help people, meaning the Revolution must be building something like a state within itself to support it's own Revolution, so when it is big enough, when it finally has overthrown the Capitalists, it will already be prepared to take over as a governing body. The only chaos then is in the Revolution itself, but a small moment of bloody violence in plane sight is nothing compared to the massive death, destruction, torture and despair, that the system does constantly out of sight, hidden away (as much as it even can hide it), that the small by comparison but more in sight and quicker violence of a Revolution which will finally end it.