As much as I'd like to favor foss and federated messenger apps, telegram isn't as much garbage as whatsapp:

1.The client is somewhat open source and have forks like Forkgram, Materialgram and unoffical clients like Telegrand.
2. Telegram isn't E2EE by default but at least it doesn't lie about it and have E2EE secret chat when nessesary, that means crucial chats stay on your device and the rest stay on their database recoverable and syncable across devices.
(Yes, whatsapp supposedly is E2EE but we can't know for sure, it's closed-source.)
3. You can use telegram as a cloud service with only 2GB per file limit, unlike whatsapp.
(There's even a third-party app that utilise this as a cloud gallery.)
4. Even tho telegram has ads in large channels, telegram isn't funded by a greedy big-corp and it doesn't datamine you, ads are based on the channel's topic.

Yes, in terms of privacy, telegram isn't the best option, Signal, Session, XMPP, Matrix, or SimpleX have better privacy features, less linkability and E2EE by default but telegram is very mainstream and got more publicity, making it the whatsapp alternative it advertises itself as-is.
Publicity doesn't make a better messenger app, but for what it tries to do, it's adoptable for simple users, doubles as cloud storage and is more secure than the garbage being whatsapp.

Immigrating users to different apps is a headache on it's own, but if they know of telegram and it's not privacy invasive, that's not bad.

Yes, but how would you know Meta doesn't have a copy of your encryption key (ex: when you sign up) and keeps a copy of your encrypted messages somewhere?
AFAIK your encryption key resides as whatsapp's data folder but since whatsapp is closed-source you can't guarantee that whatsapp gave the encryption key to Meta's server at some point when it was created; (or it was created on their servers and sent to your device.)

One would just assume the encryption key is made on your device and never sent to Meta and all the E2EE messages aren't kept on Meta's server after they are sent.

Again, Meta is a company that is profiting on targeted advetising and selling user data, how would whatsapp be a free service without any profit?

Also, Here's someone who saw their whatsapp chat used for targeted ads on them in case you have doubt.

Kent overstreet?
Of all people?

It seems like he didn't get enough harrasment from linux maintainers and went for AI one. Poor developer...

Well, not a straight answer but, there you go.

(yes, late, also my first post so hi)

"Casually reminds you that Ironfox exists & it's a lot more "private" than most chromium-based browsers, & has ublock origin. (slow by default tho)

also while aurora store doesn't verifies signatures, is has Exodus integrated which dynamically analyses & warns about spyware, tracks and telemetry so you more caucious about the littered "free" apps...

I know this is supposed to be compared with Vmware ESXi &or Proxmox but exclusively made for linux containers, so...
How well can it compare with MicroOS & CoreOS which rely podman instead?
I've never seen a detailed comparison between podman & incus in term of resource usage nor performance, just that podman supports docker compose & it's images.

Well, that doesn't sound civil or lawful at all and more like kindoms of the dark ages degree of "rules" where it doesn't apply to a choosen few.

If Meta and other bigcorps that support the US goverment get the special "avoid-judgment" card and you face punishment then there's no law, only bigotry.

That would encourage individuals and small groups to keep their activites a secret (go anonymous) and break the law whenever they can,
because the "king and his followers" don't follow their own "rules".

The US is not only getting dystopian, they're commiting primitive mistakes.

Peviously posted on an another lemmy community.

I ended up writing so much that I made an essay long reply.
Sorry for the inconvince & wait...

There, exacly what you want.
Here's a more budget one.

GPD has been making "mini laptops" for a long while, now they try to make similar gaming handheld.
I'm not sponoered nor I've bought this for myself. (yet)

Don't!
Your whatsapp session will expire over time & you gonna need to reinstall it on your phone.
Ether install whatsapp on private space or, if you feel adventurous, selfhost a Matrix-Whatsapp bridge.

Alternatively, convince your socials to use smh foss & more reliable,
Maybe telegram if they insist on mainstream,
It got a foss client but telegram doesn't enable E2EE by default (Secret Chat).

I see,
But at this rate, you gonna always make sure whatsapp runs on a VPN AND behind a kill switch so it doesn't leak,

also maybe you're interested in using tailscale or netbird to skip the port forwarding / domain hassle so you can connect to your matrix server and use the bridge in minutes.

There's a new foss netbird client for android if it satisfies.

Completely out of topic but,
I just noticed that this post has more comments than upvoted 🤣

Imagine if they put all that money into developing a decent product that might return some actual revenue.

Nah, let use all these PC components for something wasteful.

Well, how would an average streaming user benefit from using linux to begin with? Most streaming apps are avaliable on G-Play Store with DRM for the mass adoption of the platform on both Mobile & TV-Boxes and to "lower" any sort of software expoit to extract media; yet offical support for them on linux is mostly limited to chrome(ium) & firefox with drm enabled.

Yes, anything amazon gonna do for customers are very likely to be locked down but it doesn't seem sensi?le of amazon to adopt linux just to make it useless

Unless amazon are gonna make a browserOS like chromeOS & rely on PWAs there's little to no benefit on the switch other than lowering power consumption... (atleast for the avarage user)

Etheramazon is after smh else with linux (AWS?? another amazon linux??) or next-gen firesticks are gonna be multi-purposed as linux desktop and be able to run more software, media & games (anything but more lockdown).

the article take about speculations; but an amazon-based distro for say, playing amazon prime games, optimised for amazon luna & run snaps & flatpaks is something that they would be actually into, if it profitable, and adaptable to mass medium of users...

edit: flatpaks

I mean, the amazon of enterprise is not the amazon of product manufacturing, Linux doesn't get usually mentioned in product applications so??

Also, sorry late reply :b

Cool, especially more so on PWA.
But I'd still recommend having ironfox for general browsing & not throwing privacy to the window.

(You won't believe it but, I just wrote a blog-size reply and accidently deleted it for trying to put it on a pastebin service...)

Reminds me of Death Note,
Except it's not a game.

Just...
Don't let them deceive you;

If you must use deceitful software like Gmail, Whatsapp, Discord, office or whatever, just try your best not to leak your personal data on them, and if you can hinder the tracking, do so.

If you can use other (preferably FOSS) software, do so, there's plenty of solutions out there and most of them are free, and sometimes selfhost-able.

Google, Meta, Microsoft or whatever corp can lie about security or privacy all they want, but in the end, they only fool themself thinking their monetary practices aren't obvious and they can fool everyone, trust is a hard thing to earn and they can't earn it with fraud.

The product mostly show itself, and you have to go around it to know what's it's deal, if you prefer to not do so, you can search if any security researcher or analyst did investigate the product; For example Google claims Chrome browser is "safe" and "secure" dispute them giving so much trackable APIs for websites, and having a horrable default permissions, and don't forget the "Manifest V3" transition just to remove ads (and trackers) blockers like uBlock Origin.
You don't need solid proof to know what is what.

And then you just type " Foss Chrome Alternatives" or "Private Browsers" on a search engine like DDG where you can find many articles to help you find one (like this) and you'd be done.

Forget about ""Others"" right now, your well-being matters the most.

Again, as I said, whatsapp doesn't feel like a genuine messenger app as much as an oversimplified garbage made for tracking users on the background for profiting.
Even the deal of "giving" Llama LLMs (Meta AI) to everyone feels sketchy and look abusive the way it is pushed to users.

Likewise all of meta's services, the only catch with whatsapp that it used to be good and it's a well-spread application, that's why they bought it instead of improving FB's messenger, as meta want to benefit of it's naive userbase who think whatsapp is "As fine as ever";

To you, publicity is nothing important and it doesn't make a good product, to meta however, publicity is "everything" and it shall be all-time high, they have more analytical data about their userbase and have a good idea of what they would do and what decision they would take.