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SevenOfWine 45 points 3 years ago

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SevenOfWine 44 points 3 years ago

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SevenOfWine 31 points 3 years ago

It's at least in part Russian propaganda. They don't want people to vote for Trump, they do want democratic voters to not vote at all, which will help Trump get elected.

Look at the people pushing the 'genocide Joe' thing. Invariably they're anti-NATO and make excuses for Iran, Syria and Russia. Not that they're doing it deliberately, but plenty seem to have bought the propaganda and are acting like useful idiots by spreading it.

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SevenOfWine 26 points 3 years ago

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SevenOfWine 25 points 3 years ago path: 0 8218911, hotness: undefined, score: 25, children: 0
SevenOfWine 24 points 3 years ago

You misunderstand how Russian propaganda works.

It's this:

The firehose of falsehood is a propaganda technique in which a large number of messages are broadcast rapidly, repetitively, and continuously over multiple channels (such as news and social media) without regard for truth or consistency. An outgrowth of Soviet propaganda techniques, the firehose of falsehood is a contemporary model for Russian propaganda under Russian President Vladimir Putin.

https://en.wikipedia.org/...

The Jewish Nazis in Ukraine funded ISIS! The CIA funded the ISIS attack! The CIA didn't warn us! The CIA didn't warn us in time! This was done by ISIS! This was done by Ukraine! The attackers were fleeing to Ukraine! They were fleeing to Belarus but we stopped them! We are war with NATO! We are not at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s Russia will be at war with NATO. If NATO gives Ukraine F16s, Russia will shoot them down, but not be at war with NATO!

Etc. etc. etc.

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SevenOfWine 20 points 3 years ago path: 0 8181837 8183987 8186915 8187316, hotness: undefined, score: 20, children: 23
SevenOfWine 18 points 3 years ago

You're may be right. I assume most of them are 'useful idiots'.

They realised western media were often biased, so they switched to 'critical' media, spent more and more time in internet bubbles, and ended up uncritically parroting Russian, Chinese or Iranian propaganda instead.

Same thing happened after 9/11 and Iraq. A lot of people were angry about how biased CNN was, so they switched to channels like Russia Today because it was critical of the US and did genuinely have a lot of good journalism. Of course, that doesn't mean Russia Today isn't propaganda. A lot of these people are forever lost, I don't think you can deprogram them.

Also if people use a lot of slogans like "cultural marxism", "Fuck Brandon" or "genocide Joe", without being able to articulate a nuanced position, it's likely they've succumb to newspeak. Newspeak uses an impoverished and simplified vocabulary, to prevent people from critical thinking.

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SevenOfWine 17 points 3 years ago

Here's what I found:

Over the past year, numerous dissidents across Russia have found their Telegram accounts seemingly monitored or compromised. Hundreds have had their Telegram activity wielded against them in criminal cases. Perhaps most disturbingly, some activists have found their “secret chats”—Telegram’s purportedly ironclad, end-to-end encrypted feature—behaving strangely, in ways that suggest an unwelcome third party might be eavesdropping. These cases have set off a swirl of conspiracy theories, paranoia, and speculation among dissidents, whose trust in Telegram has plummeted. In many cases, it’s impossible to tell what’s really happening to people’s accounts—whether spyware or Kremlin informants have been used to break in, through no particular fault of the company; whether Telegram really is cooperating with Moscow; or whether it’s such an inherently unsafe platform that the latter is merely what appears to be going on. ... Elies Campo, who says he directed Telegram’s growth, business, and partnerships for several years, confirmed this general characterization to WIRED, as did a former Telegram developer. In other words, Telegram has the capacity to share nearly any confidential information a government requests. Users just have to trust that it won’t.

https://www.wired.com/...

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SevenOfWine 16 points 3 years ago

A real friend wants their friends to be happy. Maybe think about that next time you selfishly decide not to go down on them.

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SevenOfWine 13 points 3 years ago

What happened in Congo is taught in Belgian schools and widely known in Europe. Belgium was widely derided for it even at the time:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casement_Report

Judging by your username, you're Turkish. Are you taught about the Armenian genocide in school?

Or is that one whataboutism too far?

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SevenOfWine 12 points 3 years ago

I actually enjoy that sentence, because you can ask them for the pin code of their bank card.

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SevenOfWine 12 points 3 years ago

Capitalism commodifies dissent. It turns protest movements that argue against the unfairness of the current system into a product or marketing campaign to sell their imaginary solutions. The Barbie is a prime example of this.

I liked the I'm Just Ken song though, and it was a fun movie, but still.

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SevenOfWine 12 points 3 years ago

I mean, Biden absolutely is wishy washy.

But he also reversed Trump's policy of saying West Bank settlement is legal, and sanctioned violent Israeli settlers.

Obviously Gaza's really bad, but what's happened and happening in the West Bank is also arguably ethnic cleansing. Chasing Palestinians off their land. Trump's a fan.

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SevenOfWine 12 points 3 years ago

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SevenOfWine 11 points 3 years ago

Obviously this sucks, but it's also quite interesting. They call themselves American Banderites. Banderites were far right Ukrainian nationalists, but since WW2 the term has mainly been used by Soviet propaganda and by the Putin regime:

In propaganda the term has been used by Soviets after 1942 as a pejorative term for Ukrainians, especially western Ukrainians, or Ukrainian speakers; under Vladimir Putin-ruled Russia the term was used by state media as a pejorative for Euromaidan activists and Ukrainians who support sovereignty from Russia ... Today, in Russian propaganda, the word is used to refer to all in Ukraine who back the idea of sovereignty from Russia; Ukrainian nationalist collaboration with Nazi Germany is also emphasized

This is why Ukrainians sometimes call themselves Judeo-Banderites, as a joke about how many Jewish people support the supposedly Nazi regime in Kiev and its Jewish president. Obviously, Ukraine does have a far right, but they're incredibly marginalised:

Ukraine does have a far-right movement, and its armed defenders include the Azov battalion, a far-right nationalist militia group. But no democratic country is free of far-right nationalist groups, including the United States. In the 2019 election, the Ukrainian far right was humiliated, receiving only 2% of the vote.

This was a bit of a tangent, but it sounds like these kids may have been influenced by Russian propaganda. Certainly interesting how the far right is divided over Ukraine, with some supporting Russia and some supporting Ukraine, despite the whole Jewish president and relatively pro-LGBT thing.

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SevenOfWine 10 points 3 years ago

Shoddy intel which was better than what the FSB had on offer.

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SevenOfWine 8 points 3 years ago

except these Nazis are also somehow Jewish, apparently

The guardian did an interesting piece on that:

The form of Russian fascism Dugin and Prokhanov defended is like the central versions of European fascism – explicitly antisemitic. As Snyder writes, “… if Prokhanov had a core belief, it was the endless struggle of the empty and abstract sea-people against the hearty and righteous land-people. Like Adolf Hitler, Prokhanov blamed world Jewry for inventing the ideas that enslaved his homeland. He also blamed them for the Holocaust.” ... . ... By claiming that the aim of the invasion is to “denazify” Ukraine, Putin appeals to the myths of contemporary eastern European antisemitism – that a global cabal of Jews were (and are) the real agents of violence against Russian Christians and the real victims of the Nazis were not the Jews, but rather this group. Russian Christians are targets of a conspiracy by a global elite, who, using the vocabulary of liberal democracy and human rights, attack the Christian faith and the Russian nation. Putin’s propaganda is not aimed at an obviously skeptical west, but rather appeals domestically to this strain of Christian nationalism.

https://www.theguardian.com/...

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SevenOfWine 8 points 3 years ago

Shame that the FSB doesn't have better intel on what's happening in Russia than the CIA.

Perhaps they were too busy tracking the gays after Russia recently labelled the LGBT+ movement terrorists. Perhaps they were tired after ensuring Putin won a sufficient margin against the communists. Or maybe some kid posted a meme on tiktok and they got distracted.

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SevenOfWine 8 points 3 years ago

It's not the size of the rock that matters, it's how you throw it.

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