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@lemmygrad.ml

Free speech enthusiast.

Long term lemmy dot world user, left after their anti communism and created accounts at lemmygrad as well as dot ee

Lemmy world admins are doing a disservice with creating a firewall for hundred thousand users to the idea of and work done by the lemmy developers.

VolatileExhaustPipe 17 points 3 years ago

I would like to add that liberal well of people and large land owners which also labeled themselves as somewhat liberal in Italy before the Fascists came to power were quick in allying with the Fascists and enact violence against socialist and communist groups and structures they supported, for example unions. The liberals did use violence to shut off that political and economic enemy, yet they didn't then to fight the fascists and also didn't ally with socialists to stand against the fascists.

You can find very extensive studies about that which use voting shares before the take over and alike.

To put it bluntly while liberals espouse liberal values when the situation is rough they - or be it people with means, economic, political, parliamentary or party mandates - regularly did chose to fight socialists, anarchists and communist to not rock the boat and to not be uncivil.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 16 points 3 years ago

He is right though. It isn't a fallacy, the usage of the word tankie is so far removed from content that it is a bad term and more thought terminating than anything.

Tankies were originally a small subset of some Western and some, mostly East European, socialists and communists which were in favour of a (para-)military response to the revolt in Hungary in 1956. It was a complex situation and even people not on the side of Nagy within Hungary were in favour of the Soviet action.

The term now was used, and amplified by intelligence agencies and Western media, to decry the Soviet action and more importantly de-legitimize several communist groups. In that sense the functional usage of the term is similar, but the question is where would the slur hit actually?

In principle it would hit a small sub section of MLs who followed Khrushchev's decision. Many people within the pact did see the de-Stalinisation and how it was communicated as problematic, as it enabled opposition forces to claim ground in countries. Nagy tried to do introduce reforms, the most far reaching: "Hungary to leave the Warsaw Pact and declare neutrality in the Cold War."

Countries thinking about leaving the dominant two powers spheres of influence during the Cold War were often met with violence. See the Jakarta Method for more information about that (i.e. Vietnam, Korea, Indonesia, the whole of South America). During that time colonialism was also still relevant and colonial powers did use excessive violence, this is another part of the book.

Now what you and others do is labeling people who are to the left of the Soviets at that point as Tankies. Which is doubly wrong and cynical. What is interesting is that the slur can be traced back for the last 6 years to the US and there to more right wing places. It wasn't primarily a phrase that was used by leftists. However after the heating chamber of the alt right online people used it to label even people who are democratic socialists at best.

In that sense it is a continuity to the Red Scare, to not have to engage with content.

Luckily the US would never in the 1950s use regime change in countries, for example it would never use military force in Guatemala to ensure the profits of the United Fruit company and the CIA director's family or ::: spoiler alike 1948–1960s Italy 1949 Syrian coup d'état 1949–1953 Albania 1953 Iranian coup d'état 1954 Guatemalan coup d'état 1956–57 Syria crisis 1957–58 Indonesian rebellion 1959–2000 assassination attempts on Fidel Castro 1959 Cambodia, Bangkok Plot 1960 Congo coup d'état 1961 Cuba, Bay of Pigs Invasion 1961 Cuba, Operation Mongoose 1961 Dominican Republic 1963 South Vietnamese coup d'état 1964 Brazilian coup d'état 1965–66 Indonesia, Transition to the New Order 1966 Ghanaian coup d'état 1971 Bolivian coup d'état 1970–1973 Chile 1976 Argentine coup d'état 1979 Salvadoran coup d'état 1979–1989 Afghanistan, Operation Cyclone 1975–1992 Angola, UNITA 1981–1990 Nicaragua, Contras 1982 Chad 1996 Iraq coup attempt :::

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VolatileExhaustPipe 12 points 3 years ago

Wasn't it basically trying to push IP rights and extra judicial arbiters on the other nations?

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VolatileExhaustPipe 10 points 3 years ago

You don't have to compare atrocities of the scale of Nazi regimes or the Fascist Imperial Japanese regime.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 10 points 3 years ago

Just want to mention a couple things. I work with a group that ensures that people who are trans or gay get asylum in Germany and also get reasonable safe transit. Of course I could do more, but we even brought a trans person from the US who effectively fled what you describe to the right resources so that they could get asylum here (and also into contact with the doctors so that HRT prescriptions don't have gaps). I am involved in what is now majorly labeled queer politics since the early 90s when the FRG was a place often more restrictive than the GDR in terms of law.

I do regularly read and sometimes post on Hexbear, I read up your comments (which account for quite a bit of your posting history with this account there) and can understand some of the aspects you mention, but don't get why you conflate the personal slights against you with an assigned bad position for them. The latter includes words like "hexchan".

You do believe that there are some factions in some states of the USA in which the democratic party acts well and secures some of your rights, this is what you hope to strengthen when you defend the democratic party. Plenty users have not as much faith as you do (often people who do have quite a political history themselves, too) including a not small variety of trans users who answered you. Even some in the US and some of them disagree with your outlook. That is a difference of politics and a difference of mental models.

But they don’t actually care about my rights, happiness, or safety, or those of any other trans people.

Is disingenuous at best and more reasonable slander. I get that you want to be safe - and hexbear users want that, too, for others, for themselves and for you. However they have a wide range of life stories, users from places the US bombed are posting regularly. They were bombed under Obama too, with harsh police procedures and reduction of rights for LGTBQ folk. Some want a USA that isn't as easy at the trigger of military "intervention". Being able to experience multiple points of view is part of a global society and internationalism which is in my eyes the only way for us non cis-endo hetero people to survive long term. Shunning a community of up to 20k users cause you have political differences and slandering them is something you can do, but it will count for what liberal privileged trans users do.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 9 points 3 years ago

That isn't literally what the person said, though. The modlog and profile on hexbear does show that they did also argue to post less about trans support, argued for people showing less support and did not accept when other, trans!, people explained their view and why he ought to chill out at least. So there was a repeated violation of server rules in a short span of time (and fawx did leave the server).

The ban in the mod log is also for 1 day, not eternal (all of us are human and sometimes we are on rolls we wouldn't continue after a good round of sleep). Don't trust random people when it aligns with your bias.

@GhostOfHoxha@lemmy.ml did give already a critique on your comment in content.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 8 points 3 years ago

I’m literally the most left person I personally know by a wide margin

So you don't count people you know online, you also don't go to organizing union meetings, are not part of collectives and not part of a real left party (thus are likely an individualist, moralist, idealist liberal who will often - since there is little self critique and reflection - for example having thought how you could integrate parts of being anti racist in your life within a group). Of course you might be called a reactionary in some cases. Feel free to link to them, post those opinions in the un-safe space we got here as quote and people can do reflect on that. Taking your quote (which likely ignores context to present yourself in a better light) I have to say that:

trans people should be able to do whatever the fuck they want" (good) "***********************” (bad)

Yeah that is reactionary. You were rightfully banned as you broke server rules. There were enough campaigns i.e. "Read Trans Liberation!" for you to educate yourself. You didn't. You are not the victim here.

To break it down: You went into a space of solidarity and then climbed on a chair and yelled "I don't care about [group you are supposed to be having a minimum degree of solidarity with]". Everyone is able to understand that this is even if it is your uncle's birth date and you would yell that you don't care about your uncle it is a social faux pas. However what you did is much worse.

cat-trans The website's slogan at that point even was "We love our trans comrades!"

Besides:

and told to k**l m***lf and then a mod agreed with them

X: [Doubt]

You already showed yourself to be an unreliable narrator, no reason to believe such an extraordinary claim.

Edit Wonder who downvotes this post

Edit2:

CW in effect transphobia commited in a save space, with multiple repeating posts and comments and an unwillingness to see the perspectives of others, this is the context of what OP did post:

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Is the constantly talking about being trans in leftist spaces not also fueling the over focus on trans people? removed by mod posted by fawx [he/him] to askchapo •

So no one thinks I'm a troll, I completely support trans people doing whatever the fuck they want with their bodies. And I don't mind seeing trans stuff. But with that said, I feel like the hundreds and hundreds of posts I see about trans people is not helping. Going off like this site and a few others I browse you'd think trans people are like 40% of people instead of more like 2%.

I feel like constantly putting them in the spotlight, even to say you support them is just contributing to this "trans awareness burnout" I hear about in a lot of my non-leftist conversations.

I heard things similar to that within the spoiler during the 80s when I did attend gay meetups, protests and LGBTQ* representation in media became slightly more common (while what we did was still criminal in many places). Turns out I wasn't gay btw. I was bi (and that includes trans people as bi is defined as having attraction to more than one owns gender) and still am, but was, too. However the gay spaces were the spaces which enabled me to be myself and not the eternal cycle of "this is too much progress for the [women/black people/jews/italians/gays/insert minority/marginalized group of your choice]! they would progress more if they would be silent and try to pass as cis white evangelical hetero who eat meat and drink beer in unhappy marriages!"

fawx has the capacity to change and act different, as well as to not slander thousands of users with re-tellings of stuff that didn't happen like that and which minimizes their actions (which is understandable human, but it remains wrong. I do understand the emotional feeling of giving somebody a wipe as fawx did try to do with depicting hexbear as bad for excluding him for no reason - and the willing audience of people taking that for a fact instead of doing their due dilligence). Still the burden is on fawx to read, speak, listen and not primarily center themselves. If they are actually in the union they have enough ways to grow (attending IWW and other fighting unions organizing meetups and summer schools for example).

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VolatileExhaustPipe 7 points 3 years ago

Hexbear was also experiencing traffic which would fit DDoS, do you suggest that dot world did DDoS Hexbear, too?

Who poisoned the well? Its the witches fault!

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VolatileExhaustPipe 6 points 3 years ago

There is quite a bit wrong with your comment. The odds don't change whether you give them in km or billion kms. However "the odds of dying on each of these" is wrong: Those are not the odds.

As you wrote what you wrote it would mean that only 2 people in the whole US population of 300 million would die on a car.

(annualized) death rate was 1.66 per 10,000 vehicles

The 17times more likely is telling the truth. Of course you could do look at miles consumed per mode of transport, but the point will remain that trains are much more safer (and some people die on them rather by old age, than accidents).

In addition the way you present the numbers with leading zeroes means you have no academic experience in the field of data presentation. Which shows.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 6 points 3 years ago

Consider posting what you did.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 5 points 3 years ago

Understandable since one is a government funded :fedbposting: psyop running on servers in the basement of the FBI building. The other is Reddit.

Ayyyyyyy.

Was the joke. If you take that as proof that that user and hexbear as aggregate are responsible you might need to breath a bit and do learn to be more critical of media. People making jokes about you(r misfortune) aren't always out to get you.

To explain the joke:

dot world having a harder time with de federating Fascist propaganda (exploding heads and alike, while keeping their users) than with pre emptively doing a US centric Red scare and McCarthyism is quite funny and something the intelligence agencies of the US had in their hand books for over half a century. It is also often the action of liberals who think civility is more important that positive justice.

However lets say a piece or two about @A_A@lemmy.world, they are close to conspiracy thought sometimes.

Join “Lemmy.world” ; here you can create your own communities 🙂

Respect and thanks to the creators of lemmy-software, pretty sure they have friends (states) with big pockets 😆 !

Yeah, cause FOSS means evil communist governments secretly funding open source software.

They also regularly lie and misconstrue what people say.

All in all the user is a good example how liberal moderation policy (or the lack of them) leads to gray and black propaganda and spheres that are not emancipatory.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 4 points 3 years ago

You really seem to hold a grudge. Is it a grudge aimed at the right persons and is it a grudge to hold at all?

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VolatileExhaustPipe 4 points 3 years ago

You are correct, the "ghost city" claim is about a decade old and in the time since then good functioning cities developed incorporating those infrastructure and urban resources built previously.

Zhujiang New Town for example can house up to two million people (often moving out from the 7-10 million living in the old areas) and while I dislike the urban planing of it, it was once among the foremost called "ghost city" in propaganda, yet it is larger than most cities in most states of the US as example.

I also agree that having too many flats seems to not be that bad a problem to have. Especially when 2‰ of the US are unhoused - even though there are millions of empty flats.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 4 points 3 years ago

Che on the other hand was a homophobic bigot who attempted to eliminate the queer people from Cuba

Liar. You are spewing propaganda. You could read AskHistorians for that.

You are quite reactionary. Seek groups and listen, you need to be participating in collectives to grow as a person.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 3 points 3 years ago

That is now how any of that works.

post hoc ergo propter hoc

You can be wrong, it doesn't destroy your self. You don't have to fear it.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 3 points 3 years ago

Just like I would never care about the ends reached by colonialist means.

That is good and yet: Which country are you living in?

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VolatileExhaustPipe 2 points 3 years ago

That site has yellow fascists / yellow monarchists, "An"Caps listed, they aren't anarcho anything.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 2 points 3 years ago

The Feds had people on 100 user big BBSes.
If you followed the studies about so called "extremism" (which often ignores the extremism of the center) then lemmy played a role in that, so it is more unlikely than likely that Feds wouldn't be on several lemmy servers.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 2 points 3 years ago

Wow, a lot to unpack here. I will ignore the US centricity.

The idea that people and parties don't somehow interact and in part align is absurd. Besides that parties have working groups and experts for various topics, it is only a special brand of persons who think they can alone in their chamber create better outcome than if they would speak to affected people and experts.

Besides that being in a party means that you are part of a multi faction battle within the party, this means you can asses how a person acts and who they align with (same is true in regards to not being part of opponent parties).

Then plenty of city councils and mayors are quite relevant, even in the small a lot of decision can fuck some people over quite a bit. To further my point you have to deliver some data though, which region are you living in / which region are you talking about when you mean city councils / majors etc. don't matter.

Finally especially in the small big economic issues matter. However in many local elections the two parties lead to results that are bad for workers, marginalized etc. since the parties are right centrists and don't really care how to better the lives for those and how to keep our planet alive. Which would need a switch from the capitalist imperial hegemony we got now.

For more inspiration do go and talk with people from Rojava and read up on Jineology as example.

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VolatileExhaustPipe 2 points 3 years ago

That is not correct. Black and red has a variety of meanings, anarcho syndicalist ones being part of them. Anarcho communism is now more common for that combination. I do absolutely agree with you that they would join in and kick the gadsen person and my gay comrades would join in, too.

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