@RegalPotoo Maybe I should have been more specific in the wording of my title.

No one planning on hosting public multi-user service that would see some serious traffic would probably benefit from hosting on a phone.

Someone who wants to simply run a single-user instance or their personal nextcloud? I think that's a real possibility.

@MigratingtoLemmy use a hammer to break the screen, control via adb :vlpn_happy_blep:

@benjohn @selfhosted 6-8 GB of RAM with powerful CPU and GPU that was designed to run games and can in some cases run small AI models is nothing to scoff at imho.

@selfhosted Update:

1. Just to clarify, the the whole point is that Android makes it easy for less tech oriented people to host small single user / family services.

It does not need to be perfect, have massive throughput or allow for massive amounts of read/write cycles.

If people can host their own media server like Jellyfin or note taking apps like Joplin instead of using commercial services by simply installing an APK on an old phone they can leave connected at home, that's already a big win.

1. Regarding device longevity, Android 13 apparently supports / will support full KVM emulation. Windows can be run if you have root while android based VMs are expected to be possible without the need for root. Since this type of virtualization allows VMs to run their own kernel, keeping the "server app" updated should allow the user to be protected even if the host OS is outdated as long as these server-app-VMs are trustworthy themselves.

I want to give a shout out to the SFW Feral Art Bot on Mastodon/Fediverse @feralbot and @animalshapes, an incredible artist that I found this week.

Also, on lemmy I've been digging !tech@pawb.social a lot. And !animals@beehaw.org is a must for a daily dose of "aaaaw".

@chat

@jessecool1234 It has had a huge positive impact, especially since it allowed me to meet people who are non-judgemental and accept me for who I am.

It's allowed me to be myself in a world where I had learned to pretend to not be "the weird kid" and tried to fit in too much. @chat

@southsamurai Oh that's definitely a huge concern, but not just for self-hosting but for privacy in general.

But still, if the average joe wants to self-host something using an old phone is probably the easiest way to get them to try self-hosted alternatives and drop corporate / commercial services.

Maybe not the 'average average joe' such as my parents, but anyone who is minimally curious enough to do stuff such as registering a domain, setting up a game server for friends and maybe has opened the CMD windows console once or twice in the past following a tutorial. That kind of demographic (IDK if it has a name) might be much more inclined to self-host if it was as easy as installing an APK and letting your phone one somewhere at home.

Overall as long as Android doesn't become straight out malicious spyware itself, the benefit of dropping commercial alternatives might very well be a net positive. In a worst-case scenario, any tunnel / vpn configuration necessary to expose a service to the internet could also add an automated step to blackhole requests to google's tracking servers.

@Wander@yiffit.net HOLY SHIT I CAN SEE A #LEMMY IMAGE PREVIEW ON MASTODON.

@Omniraptor ah yes! Probably that's why.
Actually the whole original post was sent via Mastodon.

I tend to write posts that I share to my Mastodon followers and then at the end I mention a Lemmy community if I believe the community would also find it interesting.

@KayOhtie @Wander@yiffit.net It wasn't working for the longest time. And I believe it still only works for SFW posts, not NSFW posts. But basically the reason I'm surprised is because either lemmy or mastodon weren't talking to each other before and now due to some change it works (albeit not always).

@mdwalters @Wander@yiffit.net because he's got a huge ego

@fediverse I've read that this is called an overlay network. Unfortunately many of the ones I've seen documented focus on keeping things in their own private networks which is okay but not fun.

ULA addresses require no permission and were designed precisely to knit together private networks. We can just use domain names and convert them via checksum into a static ULA /48 prefix. DNS can be used to announce routes, or eventually something more BGP-like given that ownership of a domain can be verified and thus authorization to announce routes.

If domains ever become a bottleneck one could use private TLDs with some consensus mechanism and even create multi-layer networks this way where packmates.layer.1 and packmates.layer.2 are two different networks even though they might have the same address range.

Anyways, I'll go out and touch some grass now.

@chat I'll start:

Never have I ever had sex at a convention room party. (Been to too few conventions, but I need to make up for it somehow).

@leggylav @selfhosted OMG, yes, thank you <3

I finally feel understood now :vlpn_cry:

@Tahssi *glup glup glup* I've been way too horny sometimes.

@yote_zip @HappyFrog RIP gnome 2.

@CaleBuns @chat thank you so much <3

@Omniraptor in theory Mastodon will show a "read more" button for longer comments. Top level posts sent from Lemmy often require clicking the link to view them in full and content isn't ordered by votes because they don't exist.

So, it's a bit messy to read Lemmy from Mastodon, but posting something and then replying to comments on that thread is really easy.

@LittleFox I am officially your fan now, then. Because I would like to do overkill stuff as a hobby as well.

@oreo @Wander@yiffit.net check out Jerboa on the app store or f-droid