Moms For Hitler

After all, they quote him on their frontpage so lets call them for what they truly are. These are not moms, they are hate machines.

Is /r/conservative leaking into lemmy?

The alternative realities allowed to exist in conservative or republican groups/communities.

I severely wish for this to not happen here. But I’m not naive, conservatives always follow and then start to destruct what others have created.

Rage engagement. Pit Threads into fediverse, cause mayhem by having toxic Threads users in the feeds, know decent people cannot let go and respond, watch discussions and engagement explode, inject ads, profit

User pointed to a history of bad behaviour to counter the idea of "lets wait". User suggested to learn from history and use that as a metric for decisions.

You just trolled your way into this and think consequentially you are 'clever'. You are not.

I'm still massively confused on the setup. Just like Mastodon, this Lemmy thing pushes fragmentation and technology and I just cannot wrap my head around it.

I would love to have a site ala reddit. There, that is it. I am not super interested in the techniques behind Lemmy but I must because there are 'servers', 'communities', etc. You can join one server but you might not see (or be able to search) other servers or whatever. The fragmentation is related to this point, I am going to have to hunt for specific 'groups' or 'subreddits' if you will, and hope it is complete because maybe another group, on another server, will have other content related to your interrest. I cannot even begin about posting items myself because I am already lost on that one, no idea what server to post or how it will be able to be seen by users.

So I can describe what I would like, so that other can gauge if Lemmy can meet that need, but the fragmentation and technique tells me I am in the wrong place to have this experience.

What I would like: Frontpage with generic 'groups' or 'communities' and my subscribed 'groups' or 'communities', all on the front page/one page, that scrolls continuously without bothering me with 'techniques' (choosing servers for example). I can certainly appreciate the techniques behind Lemmy (or Mastodon) but in the end I want to create 1 account, pull in some 'subreddits' in my account and when I go to the front page, I get to see all the articles related to the 'groups' or 'subreddits'

In short: can I arrange Lemmy/Vlemmy in such a way that I get the same experience as I had on/with reddit?

I am looking for a replacement, not a challenge tbh. Again, fair play on the efforts of the devs but I want to keep my effort at a minimum on this one, I just consume and read news.

I agree. Had the same thought. Right now I think the influx will be tech savvy users fleeing reddit and have no big problems understanding Lemmy.

However, there will be (I hope!) a larger influx of 'normal' users wanting to check Lemmy out (my theory is that all the content creators are ending up here and the lurkers will start to follow content in the end) will have a hard time. Why bother them with instances or how you pick communities, how the fediverse works? Just allow people to sign-up, no forcing to choose server, one account only, deal with that login/create account when you end up on different servers, etc. Just make the initial access a smooth pane of glass. Later they can deep-dive in the tech if the so choose to. Just stop throwing tech into peoples faces, it really is as simple as that. Like someone else stated, if I drive a car I should not have knowledge about my engine, model/type of crankshaft, timing of the belt, etc. I have a garage for that sort of thing and I will not be bothered with details (unless I ask the mechanic of course).

I said this before and it seems that the 'core' or 'old skool' Lemmy users have issues with that, you should have to know the tech if you want to join.
I hope this will not be a typical open source/low level attitude of admins and tech savvy people where people are just lost in that tech maze. Whatever you need to run in the background, do whatever, just give me an alternative to reddit. This is not me speaking but I fear the average emigrating reddit user will want this simpleness. And why not give it to them, why force people to understand fediverse?

So China is accepting Japan into their midst and getting all buddy-buddy?
How very Nanking of them... China will never ever consider Japan as an equal or viable partner. Breaking the bond between West and Japan? Sure, they are all about that but being buddies and accepted into China? Never ever happening.

I disagree. So that knocks the "we all know that" nonsense.

If you look behind Max you will see a ton of really interesting things happening. Or not, if you have no eye for that. Then yes, for you it is boring.

Nope but I didn't use twitter either, nor will I use Mastodon. Just not my cup of tea as it is a vile place and you can clearly see in the last couple of twitter years why I was right on this one. Mastodon and Threads will suffer the same fate imho. This type of platform attracts....certain weird and extreme people.

Oh. Oh wow wow. Seems to work on different instances as well? This I tried for VLemmy.net :

https://lemmy.bolha.one/vlemmy.net/

Hence the insane downforce, they would liftoff and ascend the skies if not for that.

I get what you are saying but you cannot use that wording as the opposing side would focus on the crassness of your statement.

Smile, be friendly and call then Moms for Hitler. They will protest, be offended even. But you can back this up: "then why did they promote Hitler quotes on their frontpage? Moms for Hitler sounds fair if your group quotes the man." There will be arguments about how this was a 'mistake'. This is easily dismissed by finger-quoting gestures and saying "why yes, who amongst us here did not quote Hitler by accident at one point and then published it on the frontpage of the organisation, totally by 'accident'"

You can see where this is going, it will be an utterly frustrating thing to combat this statement as it has truth in it.

So you keep calling them by that name and be sure to be polite and friendly, but just keep calling them Moms for Hitler, do not relent on this.

This vile and vicious group deserves the anguish and frustration.

What did you just achieve? Nothing really other then annoying and frustrating delusional people and make them seethe with anger and frustration.
I'll take it...

Yes, the reasonable stance. Because that worked every time, all the time with commercial entities.

I think you are overthinking this a bit.

Max wants to win, everything. That is is his motivation. Although I would argue Lando in points and having the fastest lap would not motivate Max to take that away from Lando. From Checo though, he has to take those points.

And we have not seen the true pace of that car and Max. Both are held back and I fear we will never see the true pace of that RB19 + Max combination. It's a bit sad tbh but if he is not pushed, you will never see the limit of them.

Campfire and Beans

Sainz and RB/Max is not a good combo in my opinion. Sainz has ambitions, dreams.

Just like Checo, dreaming and fantasising that they also could become world champion! They are wrong and delusional if they have that in the RB 2nd seat. What RB needs is a safe pair of experienced hands that will be glad to be driving F1. No lofty ambitions, just the realisation what they are here for: help clinch constructors title and support Max in races so he is not sandwiched between competitors.
I.e. they need Hulkenberg, Ricciardo, Magnussen. That kind of driver.
 
I will give RB the benefit of the doubt though, they must have been baffled by the attitude and misplaced dreams of Checo and his entourage (nay, the entire population of Mexico). They gave an older reasonably good driver a lifeline back into F1 and then he gets uppity? And then underperforms like a rookie?

Boot Checo today if not tomorrow.

The best argument I heard to defederate and have noting to do with Meta is this; this is the company that had/has a platform where hate, disinformation and lies have created a divide in society, several older generations were 'socially engineered' to start to think differently, more absolute and right wing. In short, Meta has a platform known for causing division amongst countrymen and families.

Pre-emptive nuking is what is needed, followed by some DDT thrown over it for good measure. This needs to stop. This is not a technical decision, this is a social one in order to try and save us from that shitshow FB/Zuck/Meta gave us.

Yep, true. I have all faith in the community to upend reddit in record speed. The awesomeness of the internet and it flowing where it will flow is just too good. Today someone pointed me to this proxy to transform an instance into a reddit UI.

https://lemmy.bolha.one/vlemmy.net/
(replace vlemmy.net with another instance to achieve the same)

This is why I like the internet so, so much. In the end, it will find a way :-)

What has more value for them?

1. go to courts and get thrown out of them
2. go to social media channels and keep telling your have evidence

One gets you limited time to rile up your base and the other you can keep using without having to proof a damn thing. You do the math.