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luchuan 38 points 3 years ago path: 0 987679, hotness: undefined, score: 38, children: 6
ColonelRevolution 26 points 3 years ago

I met few Polish fascists and I struggle to understand what happened in their lives that pushed them to follow that path.

I asked one of them, who claimed to be a "classical fascicst": "What was wrong with Hitler?" He said: "People say he killed too many people or something." I asked him: "What is communism?" He could not even answer the question. Like, zero understanding of politics. A case of total brainworms. Heavily addicted to drugs, very sad person. The other one just talked total nonsense, about how communists want to count other people's money, sniff coke in gulags and make races mix with each others. It was borderline terrifying to listen to him, total insanity.

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AnarchoBolshevik 16 points 3 years ago

Neofascism is closely correlated with having a petty bourgeois or (former) military background. The petite‐bourgeoisie is frequently in competition with ‘foreign’ businessowners, and Western military culture is notoriously toxic, so the transition to neofascism is the easiest to understand in those cases. If the neofascist is lower‐class, it is possible that pseudosocialist rhetoric won him over (made all the easier by anticommunist schooling, which has nothing meaningful to say about Fascism), or perhaps a neofascist clique befriended him. There are various possible reasons.

who claimed to be a “classical fascicst”

Which almost proves that he is clueless about politics. Classical fascism basically isn’t a thing anymore; the adventurer‐conqueror campaigns simply wouldn’t be practical in a world of nuclear weapons and ballistic missiles, which could swiftly put an end to a state’s ambitious quest for more spazio vitale. Neofascists are instead likelier to promote neocolonialism, because that’s what’s ‘in’ right now.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 15 points 3 years ago

Another obvious thing liberals and adjacent don't understand is that political ideologies don't exist in the void, they are created and modified by the living society and will change to reflect that society. I would think this fact is absolutely obvious to anyone who licked even a small bit of history, but it's apparently arcane knowledge and you need to be a marxist to know it...

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ColonelRevolution 5 points 3 years ago

Well, the "classical fascist" had a lot of books about "history", but he seemed to think that history is just battles and tanks - zero understanding of actual politics or economics. Very incoherent world view, but it's hard to expect anything more from a person that spends most of their time drugged out of their mind and with myriad psychological problems. I knew that person for many years and I know that deep inside it is just a very troubled, suicidal individual with mental issues, but I gave up on him and don't even feel sorry for him anymore. I tried to get him out and spent a lot of time trying to reason with him, but he's most likely just too deep in that shit to get out now.

Many if not most people are idealists and they just don't understand dialectical materialism.

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polskilumalo 15 points 3 years ago

Jesus fucking Christ, I'm so happy I didn't end up like this. Seeing people do so, it just brings tears to my eyes. If it wasn't to late, they could've been saved from such a painful fate, and yet they've gotten worse.

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ColonelRevolution 5 points 3 years ago

Yes, this is a painful fate. I will quote my other response, so you can read it too:

Well, the “classical fascist” had a lot of books about “history”, but he seemed to think that history is just battles and tanks - zero understanding of actual politics or economics. Very incoherent world view, but it’s hard to expect anything more from a person that spends most of their time drugged out of their mind and with myriad psychological problems. I knew that person for many years and I know that deep inside it is just a very troubled, suicidal individual with mental issues, but I gave up on him and don’t even feel sorry for him anymore. I tried to get him out and spent a lot of time trying to reason with him, but he’s most likely just too deep in that shit to get out now.

Many if not most people are idealists and they just don’t understand dialectical materialism.

Yesterday I talked to another friend about people who we know that live in poverty and descent into depression, alcoholism, drug addictions and lose their sanity with time. They could be saved, but the ruling classes just don't give a fuck. It's a literal crime.

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ButtigiegMineralMap 36 points 3 years ago

“Thank you, Cumrag69, we, won’t forget your service and the dignity and respect that you brought to this movement. MAPfella1993, your work in the discord chats will forever be a testament to your dedication and determination for a free self-determining Ukraine. You changed the minds of so many young people and became so close and connected with them. And how could I forget you AdolfWuzRite88? Your spamming of Hindu symbols to Ruzzian Orkkk replies was pretty creative, it really showed them to be respectful to other cultures that they aren’t as familiar with.”

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chay 11 points 3 years ago

Zelensky should do this before the war ends

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WaterBowlSlime 32 points 3 years ago

The only times I've ever seen or heard of NAFO is here on lemmygrad and ngl, it feels like you guys are doing a psyop on me >.>

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 17 points 3 years ago

It's twitter phenomenon mainly, their concentration on one social media make them even more obvious psyop.

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HaSch 12 points 3 years ago

Mark my words, the downfall of Twitter will propel humanity towards a new era of relative peace, prosperity, and progress

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relay 16 points 3 years ago

Here is a video from a known FBI informant arrested and convicted for human trafficking and released with a surprising lack of punishment, that now calls himself an anarchist, that supports NATO's war in Russia, says about NAFO

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mu3b1FsLDqo yewtu.be/watch?v=Mu3b1FsLDqo vid.puffyan.us/watch?v=Mu3b1FsLDqo https://yt.artemislena.eu/watch?v=Mu3b1FsLDqo

I'm pretty sure it is just on twitter and other people are talking about them.

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WaterBowlSlime 14 points 3 years ago

Wow I liked it better when I didn't know about NAFO 😕

Reading through the comment section on that video is an experience. People really see themselves as righteous grassroots activists huh

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ButtigiegMineralMap 13 points 3 years ago

I wish, Twitter is so full of that garbage. Not that I even really used Twitter in the first place. Now they even limit the number of posts you can view per day😂

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AnarchoBolshevik 27 points 3 years ago

#NAFO is a living example of […] humour, intelligence and enthusiasm.

What the fuck is she talking about?

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polskilumalo 20 points 3 years ago

Being racist is funny to them, that's their level of humor. One day in Poland would make you realize that rather quickly, unfortunately.

Also when I refer to racism I mean calling Russians orcs, asiatic hordes and comparing them to "soulless animals" in general. It's truly disgusting what they get kicks out of.

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ButtigiegMineralMap 14 points 3 years ago

I mean, I sorta get what they’re going for, but even if they were funny or intelligent (they’re definitely enthusiastic, Can’t deny that) not a single one of those things would make a difference as to how the outcome of this war turns out, especially the humor part lol. Mao famously said “political power grows out of the microphone of a comedian”

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furnace 23 points 3 years ago
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supersolid_snake 20 points 3 years ago

NAFO is jus a fan club of the world's biggest white supremacist org.

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rjs001 15 points 3 years ago
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GrainEater 24 points 3 years ago

three easy steps:

  1. live in imperial core
  2. disable remnants of critical thinking
  3. only consume bourgeois media
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ButtigiegMineralMap 20 points 3 years ago

They’re liberals, so really not far off

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m532 5 points 3 years ago

They are living off of the usa's slavery loot and are scared of the slaves being free, so they will defend usa at any step.

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CannotSleep420 11 points 3 years ago path: 0 988019, hotness: undefined, score: 11, children: 3
ksynwa 14 points 3 years ago

ocrbot is protecting you from psychic damage

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OCRBot 9 points 3 years ago

Could not find any images with text

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PoY 6 points 3 years ago

using win11 powertoys text extractor:

Kaja Kailas
@kajakallas
Greetings to #NAFOfellas at the first-ever
#NAFOSummit in Vilnius.
is a living example of how to disarm
#NAFO
Russian disinformation with humour,
intelligence and enthusiasm. Behind every Fella
is a real person who believes in #Ukraine's
victory.
Thank you for your service.
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Addfwyn 2 points 3 years ago

We have very different definitions of what constitutes "humour and intelligence" I see. They aren't funny or clever, they're mildly annoying.

I really wish they didn't co-opt my favourite dog breed for their shitty "movement".

EDIT: Also I don't know if anyone saw the representatives that showed up at that summit, but...man. They couldn't fit the stereotype any harder honestly.

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Otoyana 1 point 3 years ago

NAFO is hilarious representation of how corporate western mentality works when it comes to such omnipresent and fundamental issues. As you may see this kind of language and presentation is so common when, it envelopes any phenomenon, language of experts, fact-checking, debunking and etc. Language of news outlets always trying to solve the puzzle of life for an "average" passenger of the current doctrine which motivates full-scale centralization of conscious around government's approval of ideas.

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