The Best Password Managers in 2024

3 years ago by BrikoX to c/privacy

2023 was a record-breaking year for cybersecurity in a bad way. Ransomware payments hit a record high of $1.1 billion, which is likely to...

just_another_person 152 points 3 years ago

BitWarden

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SEND_NOODLES_PLS 42 points 3 years ago

and/or Vaultwarden as a selfhosted alternative.

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LWD 37 points 3 years ago
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__init__ 12 points 3 years ago

<$1/mo for bitwarden hosted premium is a no brainer for me

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clarfgg 7 points 3 years ago

I was really disappointed about standard notes' plans. Took me forever to get everything set up to self host, only to find I couldn't even use markdown unless I bought a license? Silly.

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LWD 3 points 3 years ago
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PhAzE 5 points 3 years ago

I'm excited that the bitwarden phone apps are getting a brand new native version for ios and Android soon.

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jenny_ball 2 points 3 years ago

the current version is not native?

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Scolding0513 3 points 3 years ago

Standard notes is very unethical. They want you to pay for open source software even if you self host. Very scummy.

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umami_wasbi 4 points 3 years ago

Tried, and not a fan of. The organizing features are kind of not what I expected. Sticking to KeepassXC for now.

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SEND_NOODLES_PLS 6 points 3 years ago

I actually thought the organization stuff is pretty good, coming from keepassxc myself. The way we have it set up is that each of the members of our family all have VW accounts, and we have a common organization shared among us for stuff we all use (e.g. home devices). It's all in one installation, so it's pretty convenient. I don't think I can do the same as easily with keepass.

That being said, keepass is a really solid piece of software. I'd recommend it myself.

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SendMePhotos 3 points 3 years ago

I'm curious, what features is it lacking that you want to see?

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umami_wasbi 1 point 3 years ago

First is the organizing feature. It doesn't let me to have sub folders which I need to categorize items.

Second is the TAN management to store my MFA backup codes. A feature the original Keepass have but KeepassXC doesn't. You can use notes to mimic but it doesn't auto expire after use, i.e. more manual work.

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JustEnoughDucks 2 points 3 years ago

Bitwarden + aegis for everything possible.

Authelia or authentik for self hosted stuff.

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laverabe 0 points 3 years ago

Corporate Headquarters

Bitwarden, Inc. 1 North Calle Cesar Chavez Santa Barbara, CA 93103 Bitwarden, Inc. is the parent company of 8bit Solutions LLC

Something tells me they'll enshitiffy too. It would make me uneasy storing all my passwords with a for profit corp, on their servers.

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just_another_person 3 points 3 years ago

They've already open-sourced all the best parts, and there are independent OSS projects based on that. If BE fucks with their user base, they'd be messing with their livelihood.

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MonkderZweite -3 points 3 years ago path: 0 8076257 8099962, hotness: undefined, score: -3, children: 0
314xel 81 points 3 years ago

Is Keepass there? Good. Upvote.

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slazer2au 58 points 3 years ago

Prefer KeepassXC but let's be honest, the best password manager is the only you actually use and keep using.

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ioslife 28 points 3 years ago

And that doesn’t get hacked!

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slazer2au -2 points 3 years ago

Everything gets hacked given enough time. Just not everyone says they were hacked or realised they were.

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Anon518 4 points 3 years ago

Prefer KeepassXC

Why? Keepass has lots of plugins and XC doesn't, right?

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Swarfega 2 points 3 years ago

KeepassXC looks better IMO. Also I like that hardware keys work without plugins. Personally I still use KeePass for one feature that XC doesn't offer.

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pixelscript 1 point 3 years ago

I like KeePassXC because it's written in C and is thus cross platform, while KeePass is written in C# and relies on Windows UI libraries. You can run KeePass on Linux (and I did without usability issue for years) but it will look god awful.

I won't knock plugins, everyone has weird use cases, but I don't know what people need KeePass to do that it doesn't already do out of the box. I've certainly never felt the need for any.

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possiblylinux127 8 points 3 years ago

I would only use KeepassXC

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zifk 62 points 3 years ago

+1 For KeepassXC, I use it in combination with syncthing to have my passwords available on all devices.

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TheWoozy 12 points 3 years ago

Nextcloud syncs my KeepassXC safe.

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milicent_bystandr 2 points 3 years ago

Syncthing for me, but Nextcloud has its advantages too.

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Takios 4 points 3 years ago

Been using that same setup and very happy with it.

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kurikai 3 points 3 years ago

Same for me

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PublicLewdness 53 points 3 years ago

Still using KeepassXC on desktop and laptop and KeePassDX on mobile.

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shortwavesurfer 5 points 3 years ago

This is exactly my setup. How did you know? LOL.

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Teppichbrand 14 points 3 years ago

File synchronized with Syncthing? :)

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shortwavesurfer 1 point 3 years ago

I've thought about it, but for now at least I just use a USB flash drive to keep the file synchronized.

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PublicLewdness 1 point 3 years ago

I could say I know because i'm an elite haxxor but it would be a lie. I'm not even at script kiddie level.

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ebits21 42 points 3 years ago

I use Bitwarden for passwords. Just works so well.

KeepassXC and KeePassium for TOTP codes. I keep the database in the cloud but sync a key with Syncthing that’s needed to unlock the database on the devices themselves.

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Lem453 9 points 3 years ago

Locally hosted bitwarden (vault warden) that is only accessible on your local network is the way to go. When a new sync is needed away from home, wireguard VPN to connect back in makes everything nice and secure. Otherwise most of the time the vault is cached to the device locally so you don't need to phone home to access passwords.

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tuhriel 3 points 3 years ago

I do it exactly like that, except that im connected via vpn most of the time, since my pihole is also located in my lan

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rambos 2 points 3 years ago

Exactly my setup

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haui_lemmy 1 point 3 years ago

My setup

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bluetoque 1 point 3 years ago
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railwhale 2 points 3 years ago

@bluetoque @ebits21 Because then every account is only as secure as your Bitwarden account. It become a single point of failure/vulnerability.

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ebits21 1 point 3 years ago

Yep, I think keeping TOTP codes in the same place as passwords defeats their purpose (no longer a second factor).

Less convenient but more secure.

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sturlabragason 33 points 3 years ago

I like ProtonPass. It’s nice.

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akilou 12 points 3 years ago

And they are really moving quickly with development. I feel like we're getting new features monthly

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gogosempai 8 points 3 years ago

Same. The UI is pretty good and modern, they support TOPT and cards as well and the development is being done at a good pace.

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UntitledQuitting 0 points 3 years ago

My only complaint is the lack of passkey support. I just want to store my password and passkeys in one place.

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possiblylinux127 28 points 3 years ago path: 0 8087087, hotness: undefined, score: 28, children: 1
NostraDavid 2 points 3 years ago
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Akareth 24 points 3 years ago

Keepass + Syncthing is a great combination.

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mp3 9 points 3 years ago

And with Syncthing's Untrusted Device Encryption feature I can use my VPS as an extra node for synchronization without worrying touch if it becomes compromised without me knowing.

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superbirra 4 points 3 years ago

the file is already encrypted so you aren't getting much more security

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mp3 6 points 3 years ago

I also sync other stuff, so it's useful anyway.

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milicent_bystandr 2 points 3 years ago

And it hides file names and sizes by splitting things up, which puts one extra layer of difficulty for someone trying to find my passwords file to target. I have a much stronger password on the syncthing directory than my normal type-each-time password to open keepassxc.

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Churbleyimyam 22 points 3 years ago

KeepassXC & Syncthing

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milicent_bystandr 7 points 3 years ago

And I do keepassdx on Android, with a (phone-specific) database synced with syncthing


P.S. syncthing is fantastic: I hope more people consider hosting discovery servers and especially relays

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Churbleyimyam 2 points 3 years ago

Syncthing is so good!

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Kekzkrieger 16 points 3 years ago

I use keepass with my database on onedrive.

Then i connect every device to said onedrive account, copy the private key manually on each device that i need to use.

I secure my databse with said private key + a passphrase.

Might not be the best setup, but i feel like with passphrase+key i am secure enough to have the db file in the cloud.

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om1k 7 points 3 years ago

you could encrypt onedrive with cryptomator

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guillem 14 points 3 years ago
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toni_bmw 12 points 3 years ago

KeepassXC, Passbolt

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madcaesar 11 points 3 years ago

KeePass for me. I keep my encrypted vault in my 2 factor encrypted gdrive. Get the best of both worlds. No traditional cloud that's a target for hackers and I have passes I can share across devices.

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navi 9 points 3 years ago

I really enjoy 1Password for easy vault sharing between family members. I was able to get my (not so technically literate) siblings and dad onto my family plan. Baby steps!

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eya 9 points 3 years ago

KeePassXC my beloved

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Clusterfck 8 points 3 years ago

I love Dashlane, someone tell me why it’s bad.

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BrikoX 10 points 3 years ago

I know they recently published the code for their clients, so that's a plus. But I can't find any independent audits for their architecture or clients.

While all mentioned options does have independent audits done.

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LunchEnjoyer 3 points 3 years ago

Aslo more expensive than Bitwarden for example, should u want to pay for premium.

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Rexios 1 point 3 years ago

Dashlane’s app experience across platforms was hit and miss for me. 1Password has been much better.

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coffinwood 8 points 3 years ago

No mention of Enpass? Stores more than just passwords, can be synced locally over wifi or in the cloud without using Enpass servers.

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skar3 7 points 3 years ago

It's not open source and they haven't had a security audit in a while AFAIK, I used to use it too but migrated to Proton Pass for these reasons https://discussion.enpass.io/...

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Artaca 2 points 3 years ago

Been using Enpass for something like a decade and it's been perfect. One time licenses can be found on stacksocial, I think.

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BleatingZombie 7 points 3 years ago

Microsoft Excel file

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bulwark 17 points 3 years ago

Post-it notes on the monitor.

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joeldebruijn 5 points 3 years ago

Under the keyboard for added security.

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possiblylinux127 2 points 3 years ago

That's terrible practice

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Catsrules 1 point 3 years ago

Yeah they should be using Office 365 or Google drive.

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possiblylinux127 1 point 3 years ago

How about a password manager

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Catsrules 1 point 3 years ago

Technically Excel and 365 and Google sheets can be a password manager.

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Clusterfck 1 point 3 years ago

But during game time, best possible choice.

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possiblylinux127 -1 points 3 years ago

No, I'm pretty sure it is very much not

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Scolding0513 2 points 3 years ago

OneNote page

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bushvin 1 point 3 years ago

😱

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pathief 7 points 3 years ago

I've been using Proton Pass since it launched and I think it's really really good.

Positives:

  • Nice integration with both desktop and mobile
  • Integrated in the proton suite, which I was already using
  • Allows you to generate an email alias for each login automatically. Websites will never have your real email and you can easily generate a new alias if one has been compromised
  • Supports 2 factor authentication via TOTP, works really well

Negatives:

  • No passkey support yet
  • Free version only supports like 5 email alias
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miguel 7 points 3 years ago

Pass (Password Store)

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jabjoe 6 points 3 years ago

No love for Nextcloud Passwords or Passman? Both have plugins for Nextcloud and have Android Apps.

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lolgcat 1 point 3 years ago

No love for Nextcloud

Pretty much in general for me now. I gave it an honest go for six years but there were at least four instances where a server upgrade required nontrivial intervention to bring it back.

Syncthing + Keepass[DX] has been solid for me.

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jabjoe 1 point 3 years ago

Which one was that Passman or Nextcloud? I've run two instance of Nextcloud Password and one of Passman, for about the same time, with no issues.

Other people do seam to have issues running Nextcloud in general, but I've never had anything but PHP version stuff that is easier fixed. I love Nextcloud!

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bushvin 1 point 3 years ago

Yes! Been using it for a long time now! Never had any (major) issues!

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jabjoe 1 point 3 years ago

Snap! 😃

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idefix 6 points 3 years ago

Can someone explain what those password managers are doing better than Firefox?

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sudneo 19 points 3 years ago

I guess a bunch of things, as they are specialized apps:

  • proper auth. I think with Firefox you can have a password, but a password manager will have multiple options for 2fa including security keys, and on phone fingerprint unlock etc. In general, password managers are more resistant to malicious users gaining access to your device.
  • store all kinds of stuff. Not everything happens in the browser, and it's just convenient to have an app just for credentials. Many password managers allow to store and autofill credit cards too, for example.
  • on the fly generation of aliases. Password managers have external integrations. For example proton and bitwarden can integrate with simplelogin.io to generate email aliases when you choose to generate a new username.
  • org-like features. Password managers can be also convenient for sharing with family (for example). I do manage a bitwardes organization used by all my immediate family, which means I can share credentials easily with any of them. Besides the sharing I can also ensure my (not tech savvy mom) won't lock herself out (emergency breakglass access configurable) and technically enforce policies on password strength etc.
  • as banal as it is, self-managing. I like to run my own services and running my own password manager with my own backups gives me peace of mind.
  • another perhaps obvious point. More compatibility? I can use my password manager on whatever device, whatever browser. For some, it might not change anything, but it's a convenient feature.

As a personal addition, I would say that I simply want the cornerstone of my online security to be a product for a company that is specialized in doing that. I have no idea how much effort goes into the password manager from Mozilla, for example.

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Diego 1 point 3 years ago
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sudneo 1 point 3 years ago

Yep, I know and it's very convenient. I discovered recently that bitwarden also has integration, but requires manually provisioning an API key. Not as convenient but quite nice as well.

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idefix 1 point 3 years ago

I'm answering your comment but I'm grateful for those who have answered. You basically have more extensive needs that I have, which makes sense.

On my side:

  • I'm not planning on leaving Firefox any time soon but the migration seems straightforward
  • The security is sufficient for me: master password on the desktop, fingerprint on my phone
  • To be noted: Firefox is my default password manager for all my android apps. Its scope extends beyond web browsing
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Nath 10 points 3 years ago

I need to enter passwords in lots of places that aren't a browser.

If Firefox's password keeper meets your needs, then I would endorse using that, for sure.

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helpImTrappedOnline 4 points 3 years ago

(I use KeepassXC)

I use the notes section alot. I can store all kinds of related info. For example on sites that still use a username to login, I can put the email I used to sign up in the notes section.

I'll also do security questions answers here. Using a pasphrase generator for those is good. No one is going to check if your first dog's name really was "consoling-roving-activator-earflap" and no one can find it on your over sharing grandma's Facebook.

I'll also attach any license keys/relevant files for software, now those stay encrypted and backed up with the database instead of in a random folder of text files.

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DangerousInternet 4 points 3 years ago
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skeezix 3 points 3 years ago

In addition to what the others have said, with those other password managers you dont have to do much if you decide to change browsers some day.

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Catsrules 3 points 3 years ago

I thought I read somewhere that the build in browser password saves are not very secure.

This was maybe 5 years ago so i am guessing they have improved it?

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cyph3rPunk 5 points 3 years ago
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Xavier 2 points 3 years ago

Ah, I suppose it's TOTP/HOTP or HMAC challenge.

I am waiting for FIDO2 to work between keepassxc and yubikey. 🥳

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alecto 5 points 3 years ago

My favorites:

  • Proton Pass
    • Pros: Aliases, Proton integration
    • Cons: No passkeys (yet), native desktop apps in beta
  • 1Password
    • Pros: SHH agent integration!
    • Cons: Least open
  • Bitwarden
    • Pros: Most open, self hosting option
    • Cons: least polished user experience
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AbackDeckWARLORD 1 point 3 years ago

Proton Pass Pros: Aliases,

1Password technically does have aliases too but it requires a fastmail.com subscription. I use it and it works quite well though.

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thequickben 1 point 3 years ago

1Password supports passkeys btw. With aliases via Fastmail.

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Gutless2615 4 points 3 years ago

Vaultwarden

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RememberTheApollo_ 3 points 3 years ago

I get a good reason to stay away from lastpass is their dealing with getting hacked. Valid. However, bitching about not getting to use all the paid features as a free user is ridiculous.

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BrikoX 14 points 3 years ago

In a vacuum, maybe. But there is a difference between adding new features to a paid plan and removing features from a free plan.

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Nath 1 point 3 years ago

I don't know if this is still the case, but we trialled LastPass enterprise around 10 years ago. They didn't have an API. They had no intention of ever introducing an API. So, the script could spin up a database, but couldn't store a break-glass su user into the vault without actually giving it to a human, first. Some enterprise solution. 🙄

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GhostlyPixel 2 points 3 years ago

I have used 1Password with the annual plan for years across various browsers and operating systems and have found it to be perfect for everything I need. I will definitely take a look at Proton though.

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red_rising 2 points 3 years ago

Any options on StrongBox? It seems like a good option but they don’t quite have the reputation that others have, despite being around since 2017.

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temmink 2 points 3 years ago

StrongBox is just a client that uses keepass databases. I think it integrates well when using Apple devices and you can still use your databases on other platforms.

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red_rising 2 points 3 years ago

Ah thanks. Ya it’s Apple only but I like how it doesn’t sync to a central server but will still sync between your devices across your local network. Seems to minimize a lot of attack surface.

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ebits21 2 points 3 years ago

Strongbox is great, but expensive. I settled on KeePassium instead mostly based on cost.

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red_rising 2 points 3 years ago

It’s only $20 a year or $80 for life. I feel like that’s a fair price to support the developers.

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ebits21 1 point 3 years ago

It’s not unfair, but for my use case there are cheaper or free alternatives that work really well.

And I’m Canadian so it’s a bit more than that dollar wise.

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red_rising 1 point 3 years ago

That’s a fair point.

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gnygnygny 2 points 3 years ago

Buttercup Foss is not mention and is a nice alternative

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assplode 2 points 3 years ago

I've been using 1Password for about a year now and like it a lot

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Dewded 2 points 3 years ago

Any reason why Keeper isn't on the list? Is it bad?

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Shyfer 1 point 3 years ago

Same. So far it's doing the job but I wonder if there's some reason I should switch to one of these others?

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WHATaDEMAGE 1 point 3 years ago

We use it at work and im pretty happy with it.

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Dehydrated 1 point 3 years ago

I'd also put Passbolt on the list, it's not that well known, but it's really great. I selfhost it on my home server and I'm very happy with it.

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8bitretro 1 point 3 years ago

I use Passy because I like the purple UI lmao

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Jumi -1 points 3 years ago

Avira PWM it is for me

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