Won't someone think of the yachters.

2 years ago by BonesOfTheMoon to c/memes

sukhmel 44 points 2 years ago

I'll just remind that not every yacht costs millions, there are those that cost less than a 2016 Harley Davidson. Don't know what kind of yacht was sunk this time, but I guess it wasn't a big one

Also, orcas are pissed off because of fishermen, plus fishermen now play loud music to piss them even more ward them off. I'm totally on the orcas side, but would prefer if those loud fisherboats were damaged instead

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halendos 27 points 2 years ago

Yeah, they are damaging mostly sailboats, not those millionaire party yachts you imagine. Boats from families and people who just want to sail and chill on the ocean, literally the least environmental damaging boats there are.

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Woozythebear -8 points 2 years ago

Oh won't someone think of the family that's not billionaire rich just millionaire rich.

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halendos 13 points 2 years ago

So I have a 35ft sailboat (or yacht) that I paid less than 10k euros for, and I sail it with my family on the weekends near places where orcas sometimes roam, tell me how I am a millionaire again? Or how its "justice" if they someday sink my boat? Because these are the ones they are attacking. Don't get me wrong, I'm all against those sea monstrosities from the ultra rich, but cheering for the orcas is not the way. Someday they will get someone killed, and they will probably be hunted down until they stop being a threat.

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ameancow 2 points 2 years ago

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mojofrododojo 1 point 2 years ago

we simply have to acheive communications with the orcas and explain to them that though they can attack and disable your small vessel, they should instead attack the larger vessels that are doing harm to them.

to which, they'll reply, eeeeeeeeeeeOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOwwwwwwwEEEEEwwwwwwwwwooooooooOOOoOOOOoo

which is orca for, "Bitch, I can't eat metal."

I kid, but you know, it's real.

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Woozythebear -9 points 2 years ago

Bro, you're in their habitat... don't want to get sunk then don't go there.

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ebc 7 points 2 years ago

It's more of a "thousandaire" thing honestly

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ebc 8 points 2 years ago

I just stumbled upon the article, and apparently it was this one. From a quick glance at the listing, I'd say this particular one is a ~$400k-$700k boat.

EDIT: I was wrong, it's more like $200k-$300k

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sukhmel 4 points 2 years ago

Thanks, that's more expensive than I thought :)

People who were on the yacht at the time may have gotten it for around €3300, as it was available to rent

Edit: lol, I've linked the same article you mentioned, because I didn't check the other link

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HootinNHollerin 8 points 2 years ago

Yea it’s pretty dumb how many people assume that, when all the videos I’ve seen are of typical-sized sailboats with fiberglass hulls. If people stopped to think for a second, they’d realize it’d be a lot harder to sink steel-hulled large luxury motor yachts / super yachts like billionaires & mega millionaires have

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prettybunnys 2 points 2 years ago

Which should have us scared for the next generation of weapons the orcas develop to handle the megayachts

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SuddenDownpour 4 points 2 years ago

If I ever find myself turned into an orca and someone's sailing close to me blasting off loud music, they're getting wet.

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dingus -2 points 2 years ago

I had no idea about the yacht price. Do you have an example listing? Because if it's something as small and as cheap as you say then I have a hard time classifying a little boat with a motor as a yacht.

Wikipedia indicates that while not a standard definition, a yacht is generally classified as me having an overnight sleeping cabin and is at least 10 meters/33 feet long. I can't imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it's not a multi million dollar vessel.

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ebc 10 points 2 years ago

Going from this random 2016 Harley for ~$18k, there are a lot of good boats that are cheaper and would qualify as a yacht per your definition (sleeping cabin, 33+ feet)

This one for 9k, altough listing says it needs repairs
This one for 500$ more might be a better option
This one even has air conditioning but needs to finish some repairs (materials provided)
Of course, Craigslist has some options. This one is slightly more expensive than the Harley but it looks in very good condition with a lot of recent upgrades.

Overall, there are ~3 price ranges for used sailboats: Under $10k, you'll have small-ish boats (under 27 ft) in pretty good condition or medium-ish boats (25-35 ft) that need a little work. Around $50k you'll get older (1980's), medium-large boats (35-45ft) in good condition, or smaller ones in very good condition. And at $100k-$200k you'll get much newer medium-large boats (2005+).

For reference, my first sailboat cost me $2k.

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SoleInvictus 6 points 2 years ago

Thank you for this, I had no idea. I now see that I also assumed that yacht = super rich asshole boat. They're so much cheaper than I expected! I could sail the ocean for less than $20k. Damn.

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ebc 11 points 2 years ago

Just be aware that there's a huge difference between coastal sailing and bluewater sailing. You can sail "on the ocean" but stay relatively near shore in a lot of boats. All the ones I've mentioned would be good for coastal sailing, where you're never more than a few hours away from shore.

To go truly offshore and cross an ocean you really want something more substantial. Why? It's mostly because you're much more likely to get caught in bad weather or to get something that breaks, so you need a lot more redundancy (spare parts, etc) and the boat needs to be built to withstand a lot more forces. Offshore you're also constantly moving because of waves; something that flexes a little when you hit a large-ish wave will maybe flex 3-4 times during an outing in coastal or protected waters, but will flex every ~4 seconds for 20 days during an Atlantic crossing which adds up to about a half-million times. This can break a lot of stainless parts on your boat.

Anyway, still achievable, I just wanted to add some perspective

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FarmTaco -2 points 2 years ago

gonna need a lot of work and other items to actually sail, fire suppression, satnav, depth sounder, licensing etc. its still a rich asshole boat but not a super rich asshole boat.

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sukhmel 2 points 2 years ago

To add to the excellent answer by @ebc@lemmy.ca, sailboats don't require a motor, you may as well maneuver tight spots with a paddle and use sails on (relatively) open water

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enbyecho 2 points 2 years ago

I can’t imagine something like that being as cheap as you describe, even if it’s not a multi million dollar vessel.

To add to some of the excellent answers: There is a whole category of folks who do van life, but it's sailboat life. They live on the boat full time and go extremely low-budget -- few of them are wealthy at all. People get hung up on "yacht" and all the baggage that word brings. Many purchased a boat in lieu of a van or a house. So even if you spent $100k it's a cheaper life than on land in most cases.

Examples of low budget sailors you can check out:

Sam Holmes - I don't know what he paid for his current boat but he's super frugal. I'd be shocked if he paid more than $15k and it was probably a LOT less, knowing him. While back in the US he was sailing a boat (Bayfield 29) he got for free.

Sailing Uma - While this couple are now doing much better financially (thanks to their Youtube content) they originally paid $3k for their boat, put as I recall about another $3-5k into it and have been sailing ever since, including across the Atlantic and up to Svalbard, Norway, Iceland, etc.

Wind Hippie Sailing - Holly, who is pretty damned poor, sails a Grinde 27 which was a real fixer upper when she bought it. Not sure of the price but probably under $20k.

There are of course a ton of sailers out there who are not visible. I know of a couple of people who got their boat for free and have sailed at least from the US West coast to Hawaii or around the Carribean living on practically nothing.

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Woozythebear -5 points 2 years ago

Find me a yacht that costs less than a Harley... I'll wait

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chetradley 8 points 2 years ago

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Woozythebear -10 points 2 years ago

I said Yacht, not a sail boat.

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ebc 10 points 2 years ago

Sailboats like this are routinely called "yacht". Yacht is a very non descriptive term for boats that just means a pleasure boat. A lot of very different boats fit that description.

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Vandals_handle 7 points 2 years ago

Yacht is a boat, sail or power, that has a cabin for sleeping. Large size is not a prerequisite. Some boats as small as 17 ft meet this definition.

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sukhmel 7 points 2 years ago

Define yacht then

Edit: oh, it seems, the American English strikes again

As per UK definition I'm accustomed to, a yacht is:

a boat with sails and sometimes an engine, used for either racing or travelling on for pleasure

While the US definition is:

a large and usually expensive boat, used for racing or for traveling around for pleasure

Although this, too, doesn't rule out a yacht not necessarily being expensive, and don't really say what's large in actual size

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GeneralEmergency 6 points 2 years ago

a boat with sails and sometimes an engine, used for either racing or travelling on for pleasure:

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/...

Take the L.

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DrElementary 33 points 2 years ago

Is anyone else bothered by the addition of the word "just", which throws off the whole rhythm and doesn't need to be there in any way?

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Etterra 3 points 2 years ago

It works if you pronounce the last word as three syllables. I don't know if that's the correct way to pronounce it, but it is the American way to pronounce it.

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DrElementary 6 points 2 years ago

"I'm a bitch"

3 syllables

"I'm an orca"

4 syllables

"Sinking yachts"

3 syllables

"Off Majorca"

4 syllables

Adding "Just" makes it 5, which is too many for the pattern

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samus12345 2 points 2 years ago

Also, "Imma hit you with my tail" is one syllable too many. "I'll" would work better.

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Etterra 1 point 2 years ago

5 works just fine.

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samus12345 3 points 2 years ago

It's awkward, especially since the "just" is completely unnecessary.

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slackassassin 2 points 2 years ago

Naw, the line should only be 4 syllables. "I'm a mother" is the og.

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bitwaba 1 point 2 years ago

I'd imagine whoever wrote this doesn't know how to pronounce Majorca

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Assman 1 point 2 years ago

I know how that's my favorite Zelda game

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brap 25 points 2 years ago

Made me giggle at work. Quality.

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GrymEdm 22 points 2 years ago

Orcas have been such bros to humanity (no wild orcas have ever been recorded intentionally attacking humans) that if they're hitting boats I'm starting with the assumption that it's the humans fucking up. There's a lot more history of humans being cruel/stupid to wildlife than there is of orcas doing the same to us.

Orcas have rarely injured and in one case killed their trainers when held captive, but that's essentially them fighting being held hostage. “No one is sure what causes the animals to react in this way, but boredom, frustration and ill health, both physical and mental, have all been implicated,” says Rob. “These incidents have resulted in serious injuries to trainers and, in one case at least, proved to be fatal.”

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TheSealStartedIt 21 points 2 years ago

Mallorca

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lunarul 18 points 2 years ago

Fun fact: orcas are not whales. The name "killer whale" is a reversal of their previous name, "whale killers". They're just mean dolphins.

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AngryCommieKender 20 points 2 years ago

They normally aren't mean. Orcas used to hunt whales with us. We would give them all the stuff we didn't want, and they'd herd whale pods to the ships.

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captain_aggravated 5 points 2 years ago

They're mean to seals.

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AngryCommieKender 2 points 2 years ago

Well they eat everything that they can get a hold of, as a species, except us. Individual pods have varied diets

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lunarul 2 points 2 years ago

I really meant badass, but they can definitely be mean. All intelligent animals have a mean side.

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aeronmelon 12 points 2 years ago

Dolphins are mean dolphins.

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burgersc12 7 points 2 years ago

Dolphins are whales source

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egrets 2 points 2 years ago

I've never seen a convincing source for this factoid. As best I can tell, "killer whale" was never "whale killer" in recorded written text.

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Si_sierra 1 point 2 years ago

"Orcas were given the name ‘killer whale’ by ancient sailors’ observations of groups of orcas hunting and preying on larger whale species. They called orcas ballena asesina, or ‘killer whale.’ Their Latin name, Orcinus orca, also reflects this observation of orcas feeding on large whales. Orcinus translates to ‘of the kingdom of the dead,’ and orca refers to a kind of whale."

Source: https://us.whales.org/...

So seems like this etymology makes more sense.

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DreamlandLividity 1 point 2 years ago

*Orcas are nice dolphins

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teft 16 points 2 years ago

I’m a goddess, I’m a queen

My teeth are not baleen

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FlashMobOfOne 16 points 2 years ago

I'm with the orcas.

Sink them all.

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slurpinderpin 2 points 2 years ago

Aren't they going after sailboats? These aren't like mega-yachts owned by Bezos. It's like someone's entire life savings, retirement plan

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anarchrist 12 points 2 years ago

You know I wouldn't want it any other waaaaaay!

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octopus_ink 10 points 2 years ago

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aeronmelon 9 points 2 years ago

I want to believe that orcas absolutely would belt out singer/songwriter hits from the 1990s if they could.

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Baahb 7 points 2 years ago

My brain wants me to translate this into creep and I can't.

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VulKendov 10 points 2 years ago

I believe its supposed to be to "Bitch" by Meredith Brooks.

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Wanderer 2 points 2 years ago

I thought it was the Australian hit number one I'm a bloke

"I'm a bloke, I'm an ocker"...

Rhymes a bit better.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W-IPcVaif3Q

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VulKendov 1 point 2 years ago

I think you might be on to something

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univers3man 4 points 2 years ago

Am I the only one trying to shoehorn these lyrics into Steve miller's joker?

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Leah96xxx 1 point 2 years ago

I think it's Bitch by Meredith Brooks

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Thcdenton 4 points 2 years ago

Man I'm just glad this isnt happening in Cali. I really like sailing.

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ivanafterall 2 points 2 years ago

Just when you think you got me figured out
The season's already changing
I think it's cool, you do what you do
And don't try to save me

The whales said it's cool, guys. Carry on.

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Etterra 2 points 2 years ago

So you make enough money to purchase a luxury boat? Well do I have THE vacation destination for you!

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Ilovethebomb 3 points 2 years ago

These have mostly been small sailing vessels, and in some cases the family home. We're not talking about the 1% here.

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