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nihiloisnisnostrum 28 points 3 years ago

Anytime where someone says a single person literally murdered millions of people they are completely off-base and out of touch (unless we're literally talking about the fingers that push the buttons which send the nukes). The only reason why you can even blame a single leader for the deaths of millions during war is because you are accepting the concept that abdicating responsibility for one's actions up the chain of command is a valid thing to do.

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DamarcusArt 24 points 3 years ago

Unless it is millions of deaths under capitalism of course, then it isn't the fault of the Rockefellers and Bezos of the world, but is just caused by the invisible hand of the market and people being too lazy to remain alive.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 17 points 3 years ago

I would say even the hand pushing the nuke button is a consequence of a long string of actions and conditions leading to that moment.

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AnarchoBolshevik 9 points 3 years ago

Somebody channeled their inner Fox News and interpreted your comment as ‘genocide denial’.

You raised a good point: with the arguable exception of Harry Truman, it’s a gross oversimplification to blame thousands of deaths on a single politician. One of the first lessons that somebody seriously studying the Shoah learns was that it was not the work—or even the idea—of a single individual. It was the work of millions of individuals: petty bourgeois gentiles, haut‐bourgeois ones, European politicians, ordinary soldiers, collaborators both willing and unwilling, and a signficiant number of whom acted without the orders of Adolf Schicklgruber, such as the Iron Guard and the Vichy authorities. This is why it’s reductive to say ‘Adolf Schicklgruber killed 6 million Jews’. Rather, Axis personnel and collaborators did.

goat, this is not ‘pedantry’ or ‘nitpicking’, as you might be thinking. This is serious: pinning millions of deaths on a head of state overemphasizes him and quietly exculpates numerous criminals, many of whom are still officially honored in the West.

I hate to state the obvious, but goat, since you need it: when I say, ‘Adolf Schicklgruber didn’t kill 6 million Jews; Axis personnel and collaborators did’, I am not saying ‘Hitler wasn’t a member of the Axis’ or ‘Hitler never harmed anybody’. I am saying ‘millions of Axis personnel, of whom Hitler was an important part, along with their collaborators, killed approximately six million Jews’. Can you understand that, goat? Or do you want me to recommend you some children’s software?

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nihiloisnisnostrum 0 points 3 years ago

Are you calling me a goat? If so, why?

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AnarchoBolshevik 3 points 3 years ago

No, I’m referring to the dullard who obsessively catalogues our ‘offensive’ posts on https://sh.itjust.works.

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nihiloisnisnostrum 1 point 3 years ago

Thanks. I thought so. Everything else made so much sense lol.

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reazonozaer 22 points 3 years ago

The liberal definition of fascist boils down to basically, fascism is when I don't like the leader and the more I dislike the leader the more fascist it is.

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 15 points 3 years ago

Ah yes the classical ministry of psychic hygiene take.

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SovereignState 14 points 3 years ago

Uh oh, we've been afflicted with the mental disease of critical literacy! Quick, let's bang our heads against a brick wall until we believe that the Wehrmacht were really okay dudes and antisemitic sailors were the real revolutionaries!

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Shrike502 2 points 3 years ago

antisemitic sailors

Which ones?

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Mzuark 12 points 3 years ago

Lenin had nothing to do with any periods of mass death last time I checked. That doesn't even apply.

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LightlyButteredToast 10 points 3 years ago

Also the fact that fascism != mass murder/death even if he was lol

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ButtigiegMineralMap 9 points 3 years ago

The idiots would mention the life expectancy rate at the time of the Russian Revolution and be like

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PolandIsAStateOfMind 1 point 3 years ago

There was famine in 1921, he worked himself basically to infirmity to stop it.

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RedClouds 10 points 3 years ago

Lol those links were awesome resources, saved and will refer back later.

It's fucking crazy the libs are like "socialists are bad here's my evidence" then points to a long and well thought out post debunking literal lies told by capitalists..

Like what? If any of your lib followers had half a brain you just showed them real info, and they would actually start to question capitalism.

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thanks for using Leebra!

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