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2 years ago by return2ozma to c/leftymemes

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seanziepples 74 points 2 years ago

I'm not going to tell anybody what to do or who to vote for but one of two things are very likely to happen at the end of this election:

  • Biden is re-elected. We continue with the status quo. We have a chance to make small incremental steps toward a better future.
  • Trump is elected. Two Supreme Court justices retire and Trump appoints two more. At that point he will have appointed FIVE of NINE Supreme Court justices. We have already seen what they're willing to do. Imagine what they will do in the literal decades to come.

Choose what you want to do, but take responsibility for your choice. Vote in your local elections. Big changes can happen from the ground up.

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nexguy 23 points 2 years ago

It's the federal judge appointments that matter and almost nothing else. Most of what he does can be undone except for that.. It would cause a generation of damage.

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WholeEnchilada -15 points 2 years ago

"But take responsibility for your choices"strikes me as hilarious. Voting is not public. In a democracy with private polling,hardly anybody takes responsibility for their choices. Actually, zero percent. That is why the elected president is never popular for like the first year in office. Wouldn't it be lovely if people assumed their responsibility for making choices, though? I would be on speaking terms with so many people from my past if they actually learned from their own stupidity.

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peg -31 points 2 years ago

You won't get big changes voting for Biden or Trump. Just more of the same.

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GreyEyedGhost 17 points 2 years ago

I'd say the changes from voting for Trump are pretty big.

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Arn_Thor 14 points 2 years ago

Pretty big changes have resulted from the previous Trump presidency. Any reason why you think this one will be ineffectual?

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ezterry 11 points 2 years ago

Sorry, you will get big changes voting for Trump. becasue too much is already in place to make those types of changes happen. I dont agree with these changes, but to say they are the "same" is a dangerous opinion.

The person at the top is needed to green light policy.. those lower down present such policy.. While this can seem boring it is important, since while by definition the president will be at the center of their party. If the party you vote for is most interested in vetoing everything of the other party.. even if they agree with the law in general, there is no progress.

Of course you must do more than just vote for the least bad president to make the change happen.. However if you can't at least do that you own the results os the OP said.

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zbyte64 10 points 2 years ago

Are you familiar with Project 2025?

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Lumisal 9 points 2 years ago

Roe v Wade being overturned was not "more of the same"

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jhulten 1 point 2 years ago

The system protects itself. There is no path for a third party straight to the top. Split the vote sufficiently and the House decides.

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