Samsung loses lead in foldables market after 42% slump in sales

2 years ago by schizoidman to c/android

Global sales of foldable smartphones rose by an impressive 49% in the first quarter of 2024, but Samsung's sales fell by 42% compared to the same quarter last year, meaning the technology giant was unable to maintain its position at the top of the market.
De_Narm 44 points 2 years ago

I still don't think the tech is there. My current phone is 6 years old and there still is no reason to get a new one - I couldn't imagine a foldable lasting that long. The ones I've seen in person didn't age particulary well.

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thesocavault 26 points 2 years ago

And you still have an SD card slot and headphone jack - you are ahead of the curve

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dorumon 5 points 2 years ago

Also an IR blaster as someone who also has an LG V20. It's a shame that these phones can't rock custom roms beyond android 8 or 9 (only if you live in Korea) due to Qualcomm refusing to give the community volte drivers and technically these phones never having an official way to unlock the bootloader. But using android 8.0 in 2024 isn't that bad yet and I can totally justify still using a 2016 smartphone in 2024 especially when it benchmarks the same as low end smartphones today plus it has a removable battery.

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kernelle 10 points 2 years ago

Exactly, folding phones have so many issues people very rarely buy a folding one again.

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lightnsfw 3 points 2 years ago

I'm still rocking an LG V20. Haven't seen anything since I got it that interests me enough to switch. The fact that I'd lose so much functionality is a big reason for that. Thankfully it's really tough and the battery is trivial to replace. I imagine the days are numbered before apps stop supporting it but until that becomes a problem I don't see myself replacing it. It's sad really. I was so optimistic for the future possibilities of what smart phones could do when I got this one and it turned out to be just about the last one before they all started stripping every feature they could think of.

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HurlingDurling 36 points 2 years ago

Let's see why that might be...

  • not waterproof (or resistant in any way to water)
  • ugly crease in miffle of screen.
  • uber sensitive "glass"
  • fragile mechanical hinge
  • stupidly expensive price tag
  • inferior cameras when compared to slabs
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Drusas 13 points 2 years ago

My last Google Pixel barely touched water and that was the end of that. Meanwhile, I remember a friend literally dropping his flip phone into a glass of beer (intentionally to show off its waterproofness) nearly two decades ago and it being perfectly fine after he took it out.

I don't have a point, I'm just still bitter about the Pixel. I wish more companies would make smaller phones.

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gamermanh 4 points 2 years ago

Weird that your Pixel didn't handle water

I've dropped my 8 pro into the tub like 8 times in the 8 months ive owned it and it just disabled the port and is fine

Same with my pixel 6, 4, and 2 XL

Come to think of it I haven't lost a phone to liquid since my LG G7, which I dropped into a bucket of diesel

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OrderedChaos 6 points 2 years ago

All I can imagine from your description is you looking for opportunities to dunk your phones.

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gamermanh 4 points 2 years ago

I used to keep my phone in my breast pocket because I wasn't allowed to wear headphones at work but WAS allowed to put it there and play audio aloud

Thus my phone would flip out far more often than a normal person

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echodot 1 point 2 years ago

My Pixel Fold got dropped in sub zero ethenol (don't ask), and it was fine. So I think you just got unlucky.

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NorskDronePilot 5 points 2 years ago
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emergencyfood 2 points 2 years ago

I mean, saying a model is cheaper than the latest iPhone is like saying Teslas are cheaper than Mercedes-Benz.

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Nilz 1 point 2 years ago
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Zerfallen 23 points 2 years ago

Maybe they could switch things up and offer a single modern mini phone model, under 5".

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Fredselfish 14 points 2 years ago

And they should. Thier foldable phone is garbage. My wife has one. There a permanent crease in the middle and it glitches out. We are going have to get her a new phone soon.

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vulgarcynic 9 points 2 years ago

Size is the main reason I moved to a foldable 2 years ago. I'd love something reasonably sized instead of everything being giant phablets.

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thesocavault 13 points 2 years ago

I use Sony Xperia phones, they aren't as big and still have the same features I love - SD Card and Headphone Jack

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Zorque 3 points 2 years ago

Good luck finding new ones in the US.

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thesocavault 2 points 2 years ago

I either get them from Amazon or Sony directly. I'm glad they moved from the glass back to a textured back.

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vulgarcynic 2 points 2 years ago

I've eyed some Xperias. How are the security updates?

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dustyData 3 points 2 years ago

None, Sony makes no promises of long term support. The most they usually support a device is two years if even. Typically they only commit to one version of Android upgrade and then you are on your own.

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thesocavault 1 point 2 years ago

They will give you updates for about 2 years. Every device I had was upgraded from 13 to 14. I personally don't have a problem with it. Sometimes new features you don't like so you stick with the old.

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chunkystyles 0 points 2 years ago path: 0 10366006 10386589, hotness: undefined, score: 0, children: 0
Fake4000 22 points 2 years ago

People aren't buying as many phones as they used to, and the Chinese are making cheaper foldables now.

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n3m37h 18 points 2 years ago

Sorry but folding glass phones are stupid.

Glass is glass and glassbbreaks - Jerry Rig Everything

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echodot 13 points 2 years ago

That's because since introducing the market, they haven't really innovated at all. Others came up with better hinge designs, orientations, and built better interfacing software.

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wagoner 12 points 2 years ago

I would be an ideal customer for the Samsung fold but I never pulled the trigger because

  • the dimensions make the closed device too tall. Make it the same as the Ultra non foldable.

  • screen fold mechanism/hinge not as good as their competition

  • must have the S pen (I know views on this are divided)

I remain a happy Note Ultra customer instead. Hey, they still get my money so it's not all bad for Samsung.

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dantheclamman 1 point 2 years ago

I thought the new Fold has the S pen?

I also remain on my note 20 ultra, though I may trade it in when I lose updates later this year. I'm currently leaning towards S22 ultra. Considering foldables but hear so much bad user feedback on reliability, and I also love telephoto pics so I think the S22 is the clear superior choice

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ComplacentGoat 1 point 2 years ago

Just upgraded through Samsung Direct to the s24 Ultra from note 20 ultra. They have really good deals right now. Its probably the last opportunity to get $550 trade in on the n20u.

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dantheclamman 2 points 2 years ago

Good tip! I just pulled the trigger as it is indeed a very good deal, seemed better than anything they'd have for holiday sales! Was able to stack employee rewards and some other offers to get the 1 tb model for 887 plus tax!

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ComplacentGoat 1 point 2 years ago

Nice, it's a good upgrade. I've been enjoying it so far. Still miss the microSD, but it's got so much internal that I don't think I'll care much. Did you use the $100 off accessories? The Galaxy Buds 2 pro were discounted by $130.

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Badeendje 10 points 2 years ago

Phones are expensive and fragile. No need to add movable parts and more fragility to the mix. Especially not at those price points.

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1984 9 points 2 years ago

Samsung phones are full of adware and shit. No accident they are "chosen" as top phones by reviewing websites.

Consumers don't get the best phones in those reviews. They are paid for.

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aesthelete 8 points 2 years ago

Everyone here is taking a dump on foldables, but I bought a Motorola razr 2023 for myself as a kind of Christmas present and after having a phone that comfortably fits in my pocket for the first time in like 10 years there is no way I'm going back to phablets. Thanks, I love it.

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p5yk0t1km1r4ge 6 points 2 years ago

Fuck the foldable market. I bought the zFold 3 and the fucking screen cracked simply because I unfolded it to write a note. Had it for 2 weeks; I take care of my things (I bought the s22 ultra to replace the fold, and I'm still using it to this day and it still runs/looks like new), so it wasn't a fucking "me issue". Screw foldable phones like the zFold.

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redcalcium 0 points 2 years ago

Did it covered by warranty though? I'm probably ok with the foldable screen cracking every once in a while as long as the warranty fully covers it every time it happens.

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p5yk0t1km1r4ge 2 points 2 years ago

Yeah, but there is no way I'm keeping a phone that constantly breaks whenever you simply use it. Warranty doesn't last. I doubt you'll still be OK after it breaks for the x time, this time not under warranty.

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Sanctus 5 points 2 years ago

Fuck Samsung, I'm glad these companies are spanking them. That said, my boss bought me a Fold5 cause you don't say no to a free brand new phone. Its not worth the price tag buy a different foldable if you are enthusiast.

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pineapplelover 4 points 2 years ago

Moto flip is a thing. If I were to get one it'd probably be the moto razr

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MargotRobbie 0 points 2 years ago

And it comes in pink!

(Magenta, but still)

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thesocavault 3 points 2 years ago

Foldable phones look like the best of both worlds, but that screen looks like one fold the wrong way and it's problems.

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goddard 3 points 2 years ago

I have the galaxy fold 4 and it is still going strong. Love that phone.

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Jakeroxs 4 points 2 years ago

Same, have an upvote

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zeekaran 1 point 2 years ago

I had the Z Fold 3 and now the 5. It's great. I'd happily move to another company's if they were just as good or better, but also cheaper. The price tag is the only issue and I managed to avoid the full price twice. First by buying a used one at half price, then trading it back to Samsung for any $800 off the 5, which was a great deal.

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Jumi 1 point 2 years ago

Laughs in Galaxy S10

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RizzRustbolt 0 points 2 years ago

Samsungs are for aces now?

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emergencyfood 1 point 2 years ago

Oh so that's why South Korea's birth rate is plummeting. It all makes sense now.

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