Freedom!

2 years ago by Spectre to c/comics

GardenVarietyAnxiety 108 points 2 years ago

"I demand the freedom to prevent others from doing things I don't like! 🤬"

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qjkxbmwvz 36 points 2 years ago

That's an unfair characterization.

It's not just the things they don't like that can't happen...it's also the things they do like that must happen! See, for instance, prayer in school. (Separation of Church and State only applies to satanic stuff or something, idk...)

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Garbanzo 19 points 2 years ago

I just want to smoke crack and buy guns and keep my laptop private

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psud 7 points 2 years ago

Sorry only the first two are freedom®

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Etterra 9 points 2 years ago

But I'm already free to suffer from lack of good health insurance, what more could I ask for.

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Glass0448 8 points 2 years ago

Bottom Right sees freedom as not being told by other rulers what to do. Your own rulers get to tell you what to do obviously.

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asteriskeverything 7 points 2 years ago

the third panel is Jonathan in my head cannon

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unreachable 6 points 2 years ago

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pononimous 1 point 2 years ago
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goddard -7 points 2 years ago

I don't think people that made this post know that some MAGA people are actually gay.

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theilleist 2 points 2 years ago path: 0 10486396 10506561, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 8
goddard -1 points 2 years ago

What? MAGA has absolutely nothing to do with the Nazi Germans. America fought the German Nazis.

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theilleist 1 point 2 years ago

"What? This group of fascists has absolutely nothing to do with that group of fascists. This group's ancestors fought that group."

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goddard 1 point 2 years ago

By that logic you are a fascist.

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notaviking -10 points 2 years ago

You aren't free to do anything unless we live in the wild. Society is built on the premise that we work together and place restrictions on certain things where we can live in harmony. But it is an ever evolving set of rules, and just because the law says so does not make it just, slavery was a law, apartheid was a law, the purge in a fictional America is a law. So I believe we must constantly evolve our laws with reason, to allow as much freedom in society even at an individual level, where society can grow and lead to the most benefit for the majority of people

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rayyy 8 points 2 years ago

society can grow and lead to the most benefit for the majority of people

It's a bit more complicated in real life. Who decides who gets freedom, some religious fundamentalists or rich oligarchs? Also, does that mean we should allow human sacrifices in the name of reproduction?

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notaviking 3 points 2 years ago

Yeah it is a hard question, like can be argued that there are too many people for the society and they need to be purged. Yeah I do not have a good answer but I think my point is rather that freedom isn't freedom, just agreed confines in society that is ever evolving, that in my opinion should be based in reason, and it is society's duty to use the correct reasoning.

Like you mention allowing human sacrifices in the name of reproduction. The question is a bit loaded but reasoning can be used, what is human sacrifices? We do allow the death of certain individuals in certain societies, soldiers in war, criminals in execution, children that do not have access to resources like, shelter, food or medication. Can smoking and drinking be seen as a violation of life, since it slowly takes it away, what about unhealthy food or even drugs, does any vices like gambling or sex seen could be threatening to the quality of life. You see how life actually is valuable to a certain degree in society but then there is also a freedom to throw it away. There are reproductive rights, should everyone have a right to have children? What if this person is 7 years old? What if this person already had all their children taken away due to incest and molestation on multiple occasions. Can you abort whenever like at 8 months or 1 week or is it when two gametes form an embryo. What if it is a non-viable embryo, what if this embryo implanted itself in a place outside of a womb and abortion in this instance will save the mothers reproductive organs to have future successful pregnancies.

There are very few things that are black and white in this life, very very few, so I believe there should be an ongoing discussion and that laws should follow reason and compassion for the vulnerable, that laws must constantly change, especially the laws, decrees, holy texts that invested people say should never change no matter the reason

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BarbecueCowboy 6 points 2 years ago

You aren’t free to do anything unless we live in the wild.

I think that would solve a lot of the problems if that was still something you could do. I think a lot of people yearn to live in the 'wild' without realizing all the downsides that come with that and I think that thought is more popular because that's just not an option in today's world. And, I mean like the real wild, no laws, no government, etc.

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tektite 2 points 2 years ago path: 0 10454365 10480110 10486290, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
bi_tux -35 points 2 years ago

kinda insulting, which transwoman would wear a beard om purpose?

also, got any tips for removing beard shadow?

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nerdovic 45 points 2 years ago

It might not necessarily depict a trans woman, and rather a man in drag - who are also targeted by right-wingers

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Zagorath 40 points 2 years ago

Or an enbie, or even just a cis man who likes long hair and the colour pink. You know that would set off the bigots.

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Instigate 17 points 2 years ago

Or a Sikh trans woman. Or a cis woman with very active facial hair follicles. I mean, it could be so many different people.

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VindictiveJudge 10 points 2 years ago

Seriously, I live in Oregon. We've got lots of men with long hair, beards, and pink shirts.

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bi_tux 7 points 2 years ago

true, haven't thought about that

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erin 13 points 2 years ago

My fiancée, for one. My close friend as well. Not every trans person feels dysphoria the same, or even at all. Don't presume to know other people's journeys or preferences, we're all different.

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Drivebyhaiku 12 points 2 years ago

Pretty sure that's a non-binary or non-gender conforming person.

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Theharpyeagle 12 points 2 years ago

To add to this, there are some cis women who grow facial hair (usually because of PCOS) and just rock it.

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rand_alpha19 9 points 2 years ago
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RampantParanoia2365 4 points 2 years ago

.......maybe it's a trans man. Or just a dude who likes magenta because it's expressive.

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SatansMaggotyCumFart -41 points 2 years ago

So Trump supporters aren’t allowed freedom?

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Protoknuckles 36 points 2 years ago

Freedom to what?

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SatansMaggotyCumFart 18 points 2 years ago

They can’t even express themselves with some mild felonies without the threat of jail.

This isn’t the America I grew up in.

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buddascrayon 5 points 2 years ago

I want the freedom to break into people's houses. I mean it's only a mild felony I shouldn't have to go to jail for that.

This is how you sound.

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Rustmilian 1 point 2 years ago
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0110010001100010 -4 points 2 years ago
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Sanctus 6 points 2 years ago

The OP of that comment is a prolific shitposter. True to the craft. Definitely not some rightoid.

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Rustmilian 1 point 2 years ago
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SatansMaggotyCumFart -5 points 2 years ago

I responded to that an hour ago.

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Drivebyhaiku 10 points 2 years ago

Sorry, but freedom to what? They keep yelling about removing freedoms from other people so they can enlarge the freedoms they already have into the comfort of dominance so they never find themselves mentally challenged by the empathy required to understand other people's desire to also be free.

Nobody is saying Trump supporters should be jailed, lose their jobs, be denied medical services, not be allowed to use common public amenities, be ejected from municipal councils while following the rules required to allow those government bodies require to function and nobody is mass shooting gatherings of Trump supporters... But those are all things Trump supporters have called to do or have done to other groups of people. Trump supporters have only met the personal resistance of people civilly disagreeing with their political views, something entirely mundane and to be expected in a free society where people are allowed to have unique political opinions. So how exactly are Trump supporters not free?

And I am sorry but commiting crimes already on the books as crimes don't count.

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feedum_sneedson -45 points 2 years ago

Damn they were right, these comics are consistently awful. Is this person making a living from them? Blows my mind.

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tetris11 12 points 2 years ago

I'm with you. They're literally designed to polarize and demonize, except that half the audience they're mocking isn't present, and the other half already agree... so its literally just spreading hatred instead of awareness.

Its low effort and cheap is what I'm saying, even if I obviously agree with it

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Potatos_are_not_friends 3 points 2 years ago

What makes them awful?

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feedum_sneedson 7 points 2 years ago

There's never a joke, it's only ever "here's an opinion you already agree with, now upvote and feel smug for being part of a morally superior in-group" - it's like Fox News for Tumblr-style "liberals" or whatever you want to call them. In other words, what makes them good? It's just pabulum, dry toast, chewing gum for the eyes. Couldn't be further from art, it doesn't inspire anything.

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potustheplant 0 points 2 years ago

People love b8

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ameancow -11 points 2 years ago
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Donkter 9 points 2 years ago

I don't think they meant awful as in awful content-wise. Just mediocre, played out jokes with lazy drawing and no originality.

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feedum_sneedson 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, awful as in, bland.

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RampantParanoia2365 -2 points 2 years ago path: 0 10457831 10460428 10460664 10481393, hotness: undefined, score: -2, children: 1
Donkter 3 points 2 years ago

Sure, but that is just lazy drawing. It's not a played out joke and it's an original idea. You can get away with one if you have the other.

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