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Valve rumored to be working on Android emulator for Steam

2 years ago by Agent Karyo to c/games

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Anafabula 78 points 2 years ago

Valve throwing some money/developer time at Waydroid would be awesome

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offspec 20 points 2 years ago

As far as I understand that's exactly what's been happening behind the scenes.

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bitfucker 3 points 2 years ago

Proton is throwing money at wine IIRC

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Anafabula 9 points 2 years ago

Yes, that's what I meant. I hope they do something similar for waydroid.

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ms_lane 1 point 2 years ago

That'd be great, since it's basically broken as-is.

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lustyargonian 65 points 2 years ago

SteamDeck, emulate everything.*

  • Proton technically isn't emulation, but it's pretty crazy that the device basically doesn't have anything natively built for it, everything is translated emulated. It took that much effort to break Microsoft's PC gaming monopoly.

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chunkystyles 30 points 2 years ago

The Deck is what have me the confidence to move to Linux on desktop. I wouldn't have switched if not for Valve.

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WeLoveCastingSpellz 14 points 2 years ago

translation is kind of native though. It is almost like porting a winfows app to linux in real time, on the fly. It is pretty cool

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lustyargonian 11 points 2 years ago

Yeah it's pretty cool. Sometimes the translation can even beat native performance.

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FreeLikeGNU 3 points 2 years ago

Sadly that's mostly true, but that may have more to do with devs lack of experience with Linux in general. Often they would have to outsource the port to Aspyr or another team.

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Persi 14 points 2 years ago

Regardless of what the website says, waydroid isn't an emulator by any meaningful definition.

It's a container that runs on top of your regular linux kernel (with some very cool desktop integration features), java/kotlin applications run as natively as they'd run on your phone.

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chunkystyles 2 points 2 years ago

That's interesting. I didn't know that. I tried working with Waydroid once on Bazzite on an older desktop of mine and didn't get terribly far with it.

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lorty 45 points 2 years ago

Guess they want to make it easy for mobile devs to launch their games on steam. Not sure if there's a market for it though.

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dwalin 32 points 2 years ago

Don't these guys have phones??? (Blizzard style)

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skulbuny 26 points 2 years ago

Uhh.. for their steam deck I'd think 😂 not that it'd be a primarily mobile gaming device, but no reason not to put your mobile games on it if you like them

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Leg 7 points 2 years ago

This was my first thought. I've wanted to be able to play mobile games on my steam deck since I got it.

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asexualchangeling 2 points 2 years ago

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Leg 2 points 2 years ago

You are so real for this.

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zyberteq 1 point 2 years ago

Maybe a start for their own Android store? And later an iOS store perhaps? (Although that's an entire different can of worms, regulations and apples)

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Zoomboingding 15 points 2 years ago

No idea why it's difficult to run android on PC in the first place. Windows 11 can do it, but I'm clinging to 10 until it's gone.

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xavier666 19 points 2 years ago

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IronKrill 10 points 2 years ago

Still pisses me off, this was one of the reasons I updated and they half-assed the implemenation then said they're killing it because no one is using it... no shit no one is using it, you hid it it behind the Amazon App (that no one uses) in the MS Store (that no one uses) and layers of docs for sideloading.

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ms_lane 2 points 2 years ago

It's been around in one form or another since the Windows Phone 10 days, it was a weird beta that would sometimes work and required a lot of faffing about.

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CileTheSane 12 points 2 years ago

Have you heard the good news about Linux?

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SatyrSack 18 points 2 years ago

It is still surprisingly far from straightforward to get it working

EDIT: I mean Android on Linux is difficult. Not Linux itself.

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CileTheSane 12 points 2 years ago

Fair enough. I'm just fulfilling Lemmy's contractual obligation to mention Linux any time someone doesn't want to "upgrade" to Windows 11.

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xavier666 3 points 2 years ago

Linus pays me $100 a month for spamming Linux. You also get payed, right?

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hoch 8 points 2 years ago

Every. Fucking. Thread.

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TheGalacticVoid 4 points 2 years ago

"Hey instead of complaining about a few minor annoyances on Windows, why not just switch to Linux?"

Like I have many uses for Linux and appreciate it, but the amount of suggestions that I see telling someone that Linux is the fix is way too many

The point here is that MS made a pretty killer feature that was easy to set up, and it failed because nobody used it.

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FreeLikeGNU 5 points 2 years ago

In the end you are still at the mercy of their shareholders and their core mission of EEE over end-user empowerment. Every thing they build is designed with lock-in and obfuscation to protect themselves.

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pathief 3 points 2 years ago

I fear becoming that guy, can you call me out if I do? Cheers.

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FreeLikeGNU 12 points 2 years ago

Hmm something about this has me fantasizing about a phone sized deck. But considering Valves development of VR and this development, I think they are going to tap into the android based VR dev pool for porting titles to an official Android on Steam platform.

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KingThrillgore 1 point 2 years ago

I would like if someone managed Valve right and made HL3.

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ExperiencedWinter 16 points 2 years ago

Valve makes infinitely more money off of store fees selling other people's games. Why would they want to make a fraction developing a single game when they can go after Android's 30% cut?

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KingThrillgore 2 points 2 years ago

...So they have no issue burning a few million on HL3 knowing its a sunk cost to maybe keep some of the talent that has been leaving the company?

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sheogorath 3 points 2 years ago

The thing is, Valve works mostly as a collective with mostly flat structure. So there can't be a higher up ordering people around to make HL3. The whole team needs to believe in it.

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helenslunch 1 point 2 years ago

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qevlarr -10 points 2 years ago

If this means I can play my Steam games on my phone... Yay! 🎉

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PieMePlenty 47 points 2 years ago

More like the other way round.

You can stream steam games to your phone with steam link thought.

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tourist 49 points 2 years ago

Finally

Steam phones on my game

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qevlarr -2 points 2 years ago

Wait, but Steam doesn't have Android games, right?

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SatyrSack 6 points 2 years ago

Yet

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xavier666 2 points 2 years ago

While I welcome Android games on Steam, a part of me is repulsed by how Android game devs treat their customers; in-game ads, horrendous amount of mtx, p2w. Not saying that Steam games don't suffer mtx but it's way lesser.

Anyway, let's see how it goes.

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helenslunch 1 point 2 years ago

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grayhaze 5 points 2 years ago

Which is what they're rumored to be working on. Hence the post.

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bitwaba 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah. Stream your android games from your phone to your steam deck so you can stream them to your phone!

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squirrel 8 points 2 years ago

Stream the stream from your stream to stream it to your stream.

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smeg 3 points 2 years ago

You can sort of do that with Winlator, but it's pretty early tech!

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IllIIllIllIIIIl -31 points 2 years ago

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chronicledmonocle 32 points 2 years ago

I mean you could say the Steam Deck is "just KDE on Arch".

The difference is how they implement it and what it's used for. This could be huge for "apps" on the Steam Deck, for example. Or it could be a quirky experiment or feature nobody uses. Time will tell.

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IllIIllIllIIIIl -32 points 2 years ago

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DrDominate 9 points 2 years ago

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Zahille7 15 points 2 years ago

Why did the OP go and edit their comments into a bunch of lines?

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Zozano -68 points 2 years ago

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Tattorack 21 points 2 years ago

You saying my mom's pussy is open source?

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Zozano 15 points 2 years ago

Not just OSS.

FOSS

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Viking_Hippie 10 points 2 years ago

Confirmed. They were two spots ahead of me in the line.

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swab148 3 points 2 years ago

Well at least I know they won't get her pregnant, because I already have a sibling

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