Who tf is out there recommending new people Arch? What a non-issue!
I've seen it a handful of times and find it pretty wild. It's certainly not some widespread thing.
I do agree with the point, though.
Well I personally think that Fedora is a bad recommendation too. It's not just about Arch.
Just switched to fedora after 4 years of archi. LUKS broke, the h264/h265 aren't there, and it has redhat's repo of flatpak selectioned by default rather than flathub. But hey, at least printers work OOTB!
I'd disagree with that, mostly.
The media codecs is bloody annoying, yes. Sure it's only a command or two, but it really should just be a tickbox in the installer like it is on, say, Ubuntu. So big agreement there.
As for the Flatpak repo, Fedora switched to Flathub as the default a while ago. IIRC it only doesn't if you choose to have no non-foss software during the installation (in which case of course you'd expect to not get full Flathub access!)
I think Fedora is an overall pretty great distro for beginners aside from their media codecs bone-headedness and their god-awful installer (which is getting replaced).
I always just say "and google 'what should I do after installing fedora' and follow along except 'fastest mirror=true' don't bother."
Seems to work fine so far. 'Swhat I did.
I strongly disagree, they should go in with an absolute baby beginner distro first, learn all about how it works from a user's level, and then they can go back and start building up from scratch with arch.
first steps would be to stop calling a distro baby beginner been running debian for 24 years. Linus runs Fedora the exclusive idea I run a hard distro with a custom window manager and use CLI for everything Is pure ego and toxic. Now don't get me wrong there is no issue with using Arch or a window manager vs DE. But the idea that as you advance it's a foregone conclusion you will used that config or distro.
This is the same discussion as with learning programming languages. In the us, most universities start with python, to make to easy by avaoiding memory management. In Europe, most universities start with C and C++ to teach the basics to the core. Both approaches can be appropriate depending on the student.
I would recommend they follow the full installation guide instead, which is probably one of the best pieces of technical documentation in existence at the moment. The amount of detail, context, and instruction provides both an invaluable learning experience and introduction to Linux.
archinstall is not foolproof; that's why I wouldn't recommend it to an absolute beginner. IMHO, It's more valuable for people who are familiar with the process and want a shortcut.
As great as archinstall is, it can't possibly account for every contingency. Troubleshooting a bootloader issue, for example, is easy if you've installed one before. If a noob managed to navigate the TUI (with all of the confusing questions and settings) and complete the installation only to have something go wrong there, they're off it, maybe for good.
Nobody forces you to use it. A manual arch install is still one of the most valuable leassons I learned when I started using this OS and nothing keeps new users from doing the same today
Awwwee you mean I shouldn't have chosen MX Linux and nord VPN?
I'm just saying that privacy newbies always ask about nord (which is far from the top recommended commercial VPN) because they see ads for it everywhere.
And Linux newbies ask about MX a lot because its at the top of the distrowatch list, though its nowhere near the top most-used Linux distros.
Agreed. There is no point recommend Arch for beginners. You need to have some knowledge before using Arch!
Don't get me wrong... Arch is a great system and it's my distro of choice, however I'm on Linux for more then 10 years! For a completely beginner, easier distros, such Fedora and PopOS, should be the way to go.
I will always recommend people to research their choice of distro. Use the right tool for the job.
What one person needs may differ from what another person needs. Take into account what the use case is for the machine you are using.
I use Arch BTW but I don't run Arch for any of my servers. I use Arch where it makes sense for me.
I wouldn't tell someone switching from Windows to just go balls to the wall and go for something blerding edge and arguably more maintenance or manual intervention needed.
I will give my suggestions but always implore them to research what theyt3 looking for.
Looks like open suze is going to experience more corporate bullshyt
The parent is suggesting the non corporate part is going to need to be renamed
I lost interest in open suze after I was dead ended on version 15
SUSE also has multiple controversial pacts with Microsoft, and has for a long time. Such as the Novell-Microsoft agreement.
There was a time when it looked possible that MS was going to sue lots of Linux projects, and SUSE immediately jumped into a cosy relationship with MS so that if it did happen, they'd be shielded. This was interpreted as a fuck you to other FOSS projects by much of the community. (Was a long time ago though)
They aren't, no. But SUSE has continued working with MS, and many of the people that were there are still there.
Perhaps their close relationship is an irrational thing to point at in the current year. Perhaps it isn't. I don't really know tbh.
But it's certainly something some people are still a bit iffy about. And I'm sure some people will still be similarly iffy about RedHat in 10 years too for their recent licencing controversy.
This is why people should stop recommending others which distros to recommend or not.
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