Gaming on Linux

3 years ago by Limonene to c/196

kebabslob 83 points 3 years ago

But Linus Sex Tips said linux is bad, bro! I tried Ubuntu one time like 10 years ago and it wasn't Windows, so now I hate Linux bro

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animelivesmatter 37 points 3 years ago

him accidentally uninstalling gnome shell in the process of installing steam was so fucking good dude

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kebabslob 17 points 3 years ago

Lmfao "yes, do as I say"

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stankmut 5 points 3 years ago

You haven't used Linux until you've accidentally destroyed your install. Reversible damage like uninstalling your shell or breaking your display server counts as partial credit.

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KSPAtlas 3 points 3 years ago

I once managed to destroy my system by doing dumb shit with the partition table in cfdisk and lead to a new warning being added

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Walk_blesseD 1 point 3 years ago

I have used Linux so many times. The funniest is probably when I neglected to add a network manager on my first attempt at an Arch install.

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TimeNaan 16 points 3 years ago

LTT has been pretty positive about linux and recommend it a lot. Although that is more thanks to Emily than Linus.

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ssfckdt 13 points 3 years ago

okay... TIL that Linus Tech Tips is not by Linus Torvalds.

I'm like why tf would he not promote his own system...

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Viking_Hippie 4 points 3 years ago

A big part of the POINT of Linux is that it's open source rather than proprietary, making it not his system nor his responsibility to promote it..

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ssfckdt 1 point 3 years ago

Except that Linus Torvalds literally works for The Linux Foundation, so....

I really did mean that I had always assumed that Linus Tech Tips was from the same Linus that made Linux, but it's not, and I learned that... yesterday.

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ssfckdt 1 point 3 years ago
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Smorty 4 points 3 years ago

Literally what everyone tells me: I tried it 8 years ago and it sucked (used really weird distro or Ubuntu)

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HardlightCereal 1 point 3 years ago

Is Ubuntu bad?

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qaz 3 points 3 years ago

It’s not bad, and it used to be one of the only noob-friendly distro’s, but things have improved since then. Upstream Debian has gotten easier to install and Fedora has become the best starter distro imo.

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passepartout 3 points 3 years ago

It can't even wun micwodowt owwice :(

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Smorty 3 points 3 years ago

It can't even run [popular proprietary software]! How am I supposed to [action which can be performed with FOSS]?

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qaz 2 points 3 years ago

I switched most of the software I used daily to FOSS cross platform alternatives that ran on Linux. It made the switch a lot easier.

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Smorty 2 points 3 years ago

Yeah, that makes it easier.

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Hextic 29 points 3 years ago

My Steam Deck plays most everything the system specs can run minus stupid anti cheat.

I'm surprised when games that run like shit on Windows like Descent 3 can run great there. Proton (+ the rest) is black magic.

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CriticalMiss 4 points 3 years ago

That has been my experience running SteamOS on the SD and Arch on my main computer.

If it doesn’t have some trash anti cheat or weird DRM from the 2000s, it will run.

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catsup 26 points 3 years ago

What are the names of those? I only recognize Wine ("Wine Is Not an Emulator")

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passepartout 31 points 3 years ago

Well there is

  • Vulkan (graphics API, successor to OpenGL which was used by e.g. Minecraft, CS Go i believe)
  • DXVK (compatibility layer for games created with the DirectX Framework by MS)
  • Lutris (game launcher for stuff you bought outside of steam, e.g. GOG, Epic, Uplay, etc.)
  • Steam and maybe Proton but idk.
  • the atom thing could be protondb.com, where you can look up if your game will run on linux and what fixes / commands are available
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catsup 8 points 3 years ago

Thanks! protondb sounds like a very handy website

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passepartout 4 points 3 years ago

It surely is, it has also been really great to see the growing support for all those games over the last years. Sad to see some games still being borked with no valid reason (Pubg e.g., with the developers stating the game can run on linux with no problems at all, they still will block it bc they are scared of hackers or some other lame excuse).

Every problem I had playing games on Linux could be fixed by some kind stranger on there offering a command or sth. else (sometimes even stuff thats not related to linux at all lol)

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ichmagrum 3 points 3 years ago

Sure is! Almost every game that doesn't run well out of the box has a fix there.

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lotanis 16 points 3 years ago

Proton is a fork of Wine. It was created by Valve and they have done amazing work getting it to support basically everything. It's made the steam deck and amazing machine.

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Ajen 3 points 3 years ago

Vuncan, DXVK, and Proton are other open source projects that either make wine more capable or more user friendly. It's still wine under the hood, though.

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EatMyDick 21 points 3 years ago

"Improved"

Sure if you mean almost caught up in functionality while still having maybe usability issues.

Year of the Linux desktop 👌👍

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OtakuAltair 8 points 3 years ago

It's not so much Linux catching up as it is making games compatible (and in most cases run just as well as native Linux games) that weren't made for Linux in the first place. And that's pretty insane. Thank you Valve 🙏😔

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_cerpin_taxt_ 7 points 3 years ago

Right? All of these comments are like "it's just as easy as gaming on Windows. I just have to make sure I run these specific commands in my terminal or my PC bricks, nothing runs as well as on Windows unless you have 20 years of experience with Linux, and you still need to keep a dual boot of Windows for those pesky games that aren't Linux-friendly (re: 99.9% of games). I'm so much happier on Linux and will never look back!please shoot me in the face now and end my pain I'm so happy!"

Like whatever lies you guys need to tell yourselves lol. I'll stick with Windows until it's as easy as hitting play. Also would be nice if the UI didn't look straight out of 1995.

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OtakuAltair 4 points 3 years ago

Get Nobara os if you want a plug-and-play experience. Valve is doing an amazing job pushing Linux gaming

And I dunno where you're getting the ui thing from; most distros look and feel much better than windows even by default these days lol

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_cerpin_taxt_ 3 points 3 years ago

Mint was the most recent distro I tried and it looked like a potato, but sadly didn't taste as good.

With Nobara, can I install any and all applications and games I'm currently running on my PC, with zero additional steps, and does this OS get driver updates for my 4080 on the same frequency as Windows? Can I install Steam and play any game in my library with zero additional steps? If that's the case, I'll make the switch right here, right now.

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OtakuAltair 2 points 3 years ago

Mint looks amazing though imo, better than windows by default I dare say

You could just change the theming and stuff if you didn't like the default look. Linux is basically infinitely customizable after all. Distros and desktop environments just make it much easier.

With Nobara, can I install any and all applications and games I’m currently running on my PC, with zero additional steps

It's not zero additional steps on windows either though; on windows you'd still need to download and install directx, opengl, vulkan, etc and find and install the correct .net framework versions for many tasks. I remember windows having its own fair share of hassle while I was on it until a few months ago, even aside from how slow and bloated it is.

Nobara basically takes care of similar setup on Linux for you, making some additional improvements like proton GE (modified version of Valve's proton to further increase compatibility and performance) and I'm pretty sure the drivers are just a modified version of the latest official ones. You could ask in the discord server for more info.

And you don't need to 'switch'! You could set up dual-booting instead; some invasive anti-cheats are only made for windows right now so some of those games don't work yet.

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sanpo 2 points 3 years ago

You're in the wrong thready, buddy. Absolutely no one is saying that.

99% of games run out of the box with no more issues than on Windows.

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samn 4 points 3 years ago

I daily drive Debian 12 on my desktop. In my massive library of steam games, I’ve yet to come across more than 3 that I haven’t been able to get to work, and the rest run remarkably better than on windows. Controller support has been more seamless than it was on windows, and I’ve gotten older games to work that never worked on windows 10. I’m not sure what experience you’re basing this on, maybe Optimus has some issues for laptops, but every desktop I’ve built in the last ~4 years has worked fine (and with nvidia GPUs, too)

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BeigeAgenda 16 points 3 years ago

Been gaming on Linux for years, currently I use Play On Linux and Steam.

I remember the days you had to compile your own wine to get something working.

And those wine fixme in the console, it felt like the game was being held together with string.

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willeypete23 14 points 3 years ago

Linus gaming got simple when steam dropped steamOS as a stand alone operating system. I went from windows 7 to steamOS. First was the steam piston, now I have a steam machine (Alienware / dell) and a steam deck. It's as easy as console gaming but with all the flexibility of PC gaming.

And before I get shit for prebuilts, sometimes you just want to play, and shit just works. Also am poor.

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Noughmad 8 points 3 years ago

am poor

own Alienware PC and Steam deck

Yeah... that's not what being poor is.

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willeypete23 1 point 3 years ago

I mean if you want to be pandantic owning a computer for gaming excludes you from being poor. Otherwise, if we're doing cost relative to performance, you can pick up an alienware alpha for cost of the graphics card.

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Noughmad 1 point 3 years ago

Depends on what you mean by "computer for gaming". You pretty much need a computer at home for school work, printing and sending documents, maybe even some work from home. A lot of this can be done with a phone or tablet nowadays, but that wasn't the case 5 years ago, which is why lots of people have an old-ish computer. And yes, this computer can be used to play games, not all the newer ones, but still plenty of games.

If you have a dedicated, modern and expensive computer only for games (and note that this includes consoles), yeah that definitely does exclude you from being poor.

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spasm01 2 points 3 years ago

Are they still making new steam machines?

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ThaNook 8 points 3 years ago

YOU GUYS TALKING ABOUT TRAINS?

no?

ok sorry

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Andiloor 14 points 3 years ago

Yo does anyone have like a "let's download linux" guide aimed at bimbo girlies like me

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OtakuAltair 6 points 3 years ago path: 0 1670712 1676588, hotness: undefined, score: 6, children: 3
Andiloor 2 points 3 years ago

Ty! Haven't looked at the links yet; to save my old shit do I need to get a hard drive or will everything just be normal?

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Naveen000can 2 points 3 years ago

This is duel booting so you don't need to backup anything

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OtakuAltair 2 points 3 years ago

Like the others said, dual-booting means you'll keep windows and your files... But you should still always be backing up at least your important files regardless tbh

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pop 13 points 3 years ago
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Thoxy 12 points 3 years ago

I made the switch to Linux a year ago, and I haven't looked back since. Of course, I still keep a dual boot for those pesky games that use Ring0 anticheat or are simply incompatible with Linux, like Fortnite or PUBG. But honestly, I don't find myself playing them as often anymore. My current actual go-to games include Dota 2, CS:GO, Elden Ring, Sea of Thieves, Diablo 4, Street Fighter 6, Dead Cells, and Isaac.

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kapitol 3 points 3 years ago

Hmm I find that the performance gain on games like D4 and Elden Ring are significant enough for me to boot over to my windows disk (much to my chagrin). Do you have any specific tweaks for those games. The performance isn't always terrible for those games on my Linux system but it's enough to affect gameplay occasionally.

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Thoxy 2 points 3 years ago

I don't rely on special settings; instead, I ensure that I have the latest Mesa driver installed for my 7900XTX. Additionally, I optimize my gaming experience by using a set of launch settings that work well for most of my games, with minor adjustments made to the RADV_PERFTEST environment variable. These are the launch settings I use :

VK_ICD_FILENAMES=/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.i686.json:/usr/share/vulkan/icd.d/radeon_icd.x86_64.json AMD_VULKAN_ICD=RADV RADV_PERFTEST=sam,rt,gpl,nggc,aco gamemoderun %command%

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anothercatgirl 12 points 3 years ago
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refurbishedrefurbisher 3 points 3 years ago

Protontricks also helps here.

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alternativeninja 10 points 3 years ago

I don't think I've found a game that doesn't work with Proton. I only find ones where the property anti cheat doesn't work.

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littlecolt 10 points 3 years ago

Compiling Vulkan shaders... (57%)

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dudewitbow 12 points 3 years ago

Its shader compilation that made elden ring at launch a better experience on linux than windows, because the windows build had a broken shader compiler causing microstutters.

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msmc101 10 points 3 years ago

I'm kicking myself because I wanna switch to Linux but I just bought a used Nvidia card

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Duke_Nukem_1990 15 points 3 years ago

So? I am using linux (arch btw) with a 3090 without problems.

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neeeeDanke 5 points 3 years ago

I am using a 1080 Ti and its meh, I sometimes have screen tearing issues, sleep/hibernate doesn't work anymore and letting it choose the iGPU and GPU based off of the current needs also does not work, so I just run the iGPU most of the time (it doesn't have the screen tearing issue).

I'm thinking of doing a fresh install, maybe a different distro, as the setup is quite old and bloated by now, but I'm not looking forward to reinstalling everything I actually need/use.

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keeeener 3 points 3 years ago

3080ti on fedora here and no issues either

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iByteABit 4 points 3 years ago

I use a GTX 970, I can play most games just fine.

It's not Windows performance, Cyberpunk 2077 for instance was quite more unstable for me on Arch and it took quite a bit of tweaking to be able to launch it (it's a miracle that I can even play Cyberpunk with a 970 in both cases :P). Generally though I've had a pretty good experience, most games play out of the box with good performance, and I get to daily drive Linux finally

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SSUPII 1 point 3 years ago

Cyberpunk can run on a 1050 Mobile. We are making the game seem a much larger beast.

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iByteABit 3 points 3 years ago

It can run yeah, but it's not a playable performance at all. A friend of mine played a bit of Cyberpunk with a 1050 on Windows, all the latest drivers and a relatively good build other than the graphics card, but he quickly got tired from running it with 20-30 FPS (all settings on low with 720p)

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SSUPII 1 point 3 years ago

Didn't find it myself as an issue. I play a LOT of older 3D titles (3D Nintendo Switch games), and most are locked at 30 or even 25.

But am I mistaken, or I remember Cyberpunk being more about CPU than GPU? I got an Intel i7-8750H

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heimchen 3 points 3 years ago

I have a Nvidia Tesla K80 and couldn't even set it up on Windows

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bl_r 2 points 3 years ago

I use linux with nvidia hardware, and its not that bad. Just remember to click “allow proprietary software” when you install your OS.

Some software can get problematic, such as Hyprland and Sway, but games are fine.

I mean, I’d have a better experience with AMD, but even with nvidia, I’m having a better experience than windows. especially considering I don’t have to use their shitty driver downloader

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Noughmad 1 point 3 years ago

Why would that be a problem?

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filgas08 1 point 3 years ago

I bought a 3060 ti for my new pc and I am going to install tumbleweed on it, Nvidia is not as hard to configure as people say

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Holzkohlen 1 point 3 years ago

True. There are even distros that do it for you. PopOS or EndeavourOS (has a nvidia boot option when installing). I just did a fresh EndeavourOS install and it's amazing. I have an RTX 3060 btw
But sure, AMD would be better still. Fuck Nvidia and all that 100%

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littlecolt 1 point 3 years ago path: 0 1648123 1668780, hotness: undefined, score: 1, children: 0
Cosmonaut_Collin 1 point 3 years ago

I have a gtx1070 and it works well on Linux. I have only used debian based Linux systems though. Pop OS has been recommended and that is probably the easiest OS to start in. I really like Kubuntu though for having a windows-like environment.

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ThaNook 8 points 3 years ago

TF u guys mean i just play 25 y/o games

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GCostanzaStepOnMe 3 points 3 years ago

Morrowind goes brr

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Korne127 7 points 3 years ago

Honestly, by now Gaming on Linux and macOS works without problems. Most games are published natively, and if not, it generally works fine with Wine or Proton.

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Toppa 4 points 3 years ago

Fucking love this meme. But I think the SteamDeck is missing.

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MenacingPerson 3 points 3 years ago

Whats the electron looking thing?

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Ooops 6 points 3 years ago

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mhz 2 points 3 years ago

That would be Proton, I guess

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WizBizX05 3 points 3 years ago
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Barbarian 3 points 3 years ago

This one is pretty simple, if you want an explanation for it. Just pointing out all the wonderful under the hood improvements that valve, AMD and others have made to the state of Linux gaming, in meme form.

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WizBizX05 1 point 3 years ago
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darcy 2 points 3 years ago

🫱 gaming is for losers

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Arutttelar 4 points 3 years ago

I agree, fellow gamer 🤝

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darcy 1 point 3 years ago

? i am not a gamer. 🙏

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Arutttelar 2 points 3 years ago

🤝

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Cosmonaut_Collin 1 point 3 years ago

I've also noticed that since Linux is lighter weight compared to Windows games generally run faster. At least that is my experience when using a crummy $500 laptop.

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passepartout 1 point 3 years ago

Well there is

  • Vulkan (graphics API, successor to OpenGL which is used by e.g. Minecraft, CS Go i believe)
  • DXVK (compatibility layer for games created with the DirectX Framework by MS)
  • Lutris (game launcher for stuff you bought outside of steam, e.g. GOG, Epic, Uplay, etc.)
  • Steam and maybe Proton but idk.
  • i don't know what that Atom sign thingy is
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Brisolo32 3 points 3 years ago

ProtonDB

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passepartout 2 points 3 years ago

Yes thats it, thx

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filgas08 1 point 3 years ago

yes

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