Israeli forces shoot at UN peacekeepers in Lebanon, wounding two
2 years ago by Keeponstalin to c/world
Two UN peacekeepers in Lebanon have been wounded by Israeli fire, the mission said on Thursday, as Israel's military ground operations in the country continued.
In a statement, the United Nations Interim Force in Lebanon (Unifil) said two of its members were wounded after a Merkava tank fired towards an observation tower at Unifil headquarters in Naqoura, "directly hitting it and causing them to fall".
"[Israeli] soldiers also fired on UN position (UNP) 1-31 in Labbouneh, hitting the entrance to the bunker where peacekeepers were sheltering, and damaging vehicles and a communications system," said the peacekeeping mission.
"An IDF drone was observed flying inside the UN position up to the bunker entrance."
Israeli attacks in Lebanon over the past month, including a bombing campaign and ground invasion, have killed over 1,200 people and displaced one million.
Don't forget that Israeli affiliated militias assassinated their UN negotiator in 1948.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Folke_Bernadotte
The leader of the assassination plot was the future founder of the modern Likud party and future prime Minister, Yitzhak Shamir. He lead the Likud party until 1993 when Netanyahu took over. His Wikipedia page is absolutely fucked.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yitzhak_Shamir
This and their attacks on the UNRWA are far from the first times Israel has been at war with the UN.
Ireland is vocal about the Palestines peoples human rights, which has angered Israel greatly. They are also not a member of NATO.
What a strange coincidence that it'd be Irish peacekeepers who were attacked.
Tis but a flesh wound!
Biden is working on setting up a coup in Lebanon
The worst part is that you may be right
Edit: grammar
I’m sure the US will protest this time with real energy
Are you thinking 'sternly worded memo' or 'a leak that Biden is outraged behind the scenes', but not officially? Those seem extreme.
How about one or all 3 of these:
- We order 100 pizzas to the Netenyahu family house that they didnt even order themselves, and leak a photo of Biden on the phone to the media. We'll pay for those pizzas of course.
- We could also send a prepaid hot stone masseuse to their home who also had a mildly questionable political bumper sticker on their car.
- We could send the far right Israel government leaders on a luxury vacation, but ensure that the little bottles of alchohol in first class on the plane are extra small sized. I've never been in first class myself, but I can imagine that would be extremely frustrating.
Every bill will have “Knock it off!” written on it. In bold face!
What the fuck is wrong with these assholes?
Maybe they're using the tried-and-tested strategy of targeting UN forces to make them leave. It happened in Rwanda too, they killed those Belgian peacekeepers and then Belgium and France pulled out. Shortly after that, the Rwandan start their genocide. At least the Israelis seem to have just wounded the peacekeepers, unlike the Rwandan, who hacked the Belgian with machetes. Nevertheless, it doesn't look very promising.
The Israelis did it in 2006 as well. killed 4 UN peacekeepers chilling in their post. https://en.wikipedia.org/... No real repercussions from it.
They did it during the 6 day war too. Rolled up on some UN peacekeepers trying to leave the sinai and slaughtered them. 15 killed 17 wounded. 14 Indians and 1 Brazilian. TheUN peacekeepers were evacuating at the time and Israel didnt even pretend to not know they were UN.
https://en.wikipedia.org/...
No real repercussions from it.
They also attacked the USS Liberty, and American Navy ship in international waters, killing 34 and wounding 171. Israel pretended not to know it was American, but its not a beleivable denial. As always, there were No real repercussions from it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Liberty_incident
Its clearly standard operating procedure to murder some UN peacekeepers. Its not like they are hard to pick out in their bright white painted vehicles and structures, and blue uniforms. Its just plain old murder.
Can you name a settler colonial project that committed a genocide that wouldn't fire at peacekeepers?
More like nationalism.
Because as usual religion can be used to argue for as well as against a political question. The only self coherent framework that has as its logical conclusion Israeli policy is nationalism.
Edit: plus, a nationalist explanatory framework is least susceptible to the moral hazard of anti-Semitism. Israeli policy is not exceptional, it's as banal as Serbian or Azerbaijani ethnic nationalism, revanchism, jingoism and bigotry.
Religion is rarely a problem until it's conservative, just like politics.
No, it's Zionism
Zionism is a Settler Colonialist Project. Israel has never represented all Jewish people and never will, nor are it's actions done to benefit all Jewish people. The conflation is itself antisemitic. Adi Callai, an Israeli, does a great analysis of how Antisemitism has been weaponized (see 29:01) by Zionism during its history.
Ilan Pappe, an Israeli historian, discusses it more in his book
Fucking no. Israel does not represent judiasm. Jews everywhere disavow them. Zionism is not Jewish.
Claiming that this is Jewish is antisemitism from both Israel and you.
This is about land, not religion.
This is about land,
Wars always are.
But warring factions almost always use the religion of the people as a strong lever and excuse in order to maintain the support of those people for the war effort.
This is no different. There have been strong and influential factions (on both sides of the conflict) who have claimed that the piece of dirt they're fighting over is holy land to both of the religions represented.
the countires those soldiers are from should bring in some jets and take care of that problem. Putitng up with being shot by far right wing fascists is some shameful bullshit.
Fact is Israel will only stop when they are made to stop. They will keep pushing it farther and farther until they fuck up and mess with someone able to hurt them bad. Until then they are untouchable and it might be a long time. But Israel has already doomed its own long-term existence, they're just too dumb to see it.
My money is on them pulling a military stunt, accidental or not involving Turkye and then finding out. Turkye has the means to make them shit their breaches and there's no way in hell the US is doing anything militarily against them and risking loosing a key member of NATO to Russia. If Turkye closes the Bosphorus, the Bosphorus stays closed and nobody has the means to forcibly open it short of using nukes.
I don't think anyone on the UN is ready to declare war on the United States, no matter how much we deserve it.
oh how nice it would be to see the world unite as one just to take us (the USA) down a peg. I feel like russia and china are really dropping the ball lately
oh, wait lol theyre also run by egomaniacal baffoons :shrug:
That's not how our wars are fought now. We are already in a war with China over the global economy. We are so dependent on them that they could cripple us at the snap of a finger.
Go gander around your home and look at the labels on all of your products, even the ones designed in the US were made in China (your phone and computer)
Man, imagine being a neighbor to those psycopaths. Or even worse, imagine being born Palestinian.
I’m sure the UN peacekeepers were hanging around hospitals, schools and/or Palestinians
"Sorry Captain, it was dark and in that angle he looked so much like an hospital"
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Why did people Downvote this?
Downvote the bot? They do in every thread, form of protest against it from what I've read. They don't like 1 person with a bias generating a bases for everyone as to whether a source is legitimate, as it could skew unfamiliar people to believe what isn't true. Also, it's frame of left/right is bias towards a localized perception from their area, not a global perception.
Why are they even there?
From a real news source: https://www.reuters.com/...
UNIFIL is mandated by the Security Council to help the Lebanese army keep the country's south free of weapons and armed personnel other than those of the state. That has sparked friction with Hezbollah, which effectively controls the area.
They're supposed to be Peacekeepers not Peace Makers. There's a war happening and usually Peacekeepers leave the area when it becomes an active war.
Their mission was to find Hezbollah weapons... well it seems they weren't all that effective at doing that mission. Anyway, the IDF will remove those weapons for them. So they no longer have a mission to be there to do.
This is extremely incompetent on the part of the UN. It's a struggle for the UN to get countries to volunteer soldiers to be UN Peacekeepers. The UN using Peacekeepers as human shields isn't going to help in that. Peacekeepers serve an important function, and the UN putting them in unnecessary danger because it's upset at Israel is completely irresponsible.
Israel targeting Civilians and UN personnel/facilities with the justification of 'human shields' is nothing new.
Please link to the sources. The link is more important then the graphics
Is Al Jazeera still putting up casualty numbers like it's scoreboard in a sport? Seems disgusting to me how they do that.
So my question is, do you think Hamas keeping Israelis hostage (which is a war crime BTW) is worth having all of this death?
If you find thousands dead to be casual, that's on you. The IDF sure does if they're Palestinian or Lebanese.
Hamas was willing to do a full hostage exchange since Oct 8th. Israel has rejected any permanent ceasefire, that would release all the hostages, in favor of genocide. So maybe ask the Israeli Government that question instead.
I'm not pushing Al Jazeera's pretty graphical scoreboards here. I'm not the one presenting death in a casual manner.
No, the onus is not on Israel for this. Hamas massacred villages (genocide) and took civilians hostage, which is a war crime. They continue to hold hostages, so they're continuing in their war crimes every day.
It's obvious they're only holding the hostages now to prolong this so that Al Jazeera can make pretty graphics on the suffering of Palestinians so they can get more donation money. It seems you're content to be a part of this sick grift Hamas has made by monetizing the suffering of Palestinians.
It's obvious now they aren't going to win anything other than the propganda war. But Israel obviously doesn't give a shit about the propaganda, and they're winning on every other front. So why continue the propaganda? Do you want this to drag on longer so more people will die?
Hamas tried immediately to trade the Israeli hostages for hostages the Israelis are holding, without charge, withour trail, indefinitely. israel said no. But no one ever wants to talk about the hostages the Israelis took before Oct 7. They want to pretend this started on Oct 7.
Yeah they traded for Yahya Sinwar in a previous deal. You know, the guy that planned October 7 and is now the leader of Hamas.
Sure, it didn't begin on October 7. And it also didn't begin with the next time Israel does an air strike. Or the next time. Or the time after that.
Palestinians are dying and you're rooting for a continuation of violence indefinitely. You obviously don't care about Palestinian lives because you don't want the conflict to end even while Hamas and Hezbollah are losing badly and are only getting anyone that happens to be near them killed.
They are there because the Israelis act like spolied violent children. They dont WANT to be there.
Yeah they're soldiers, they follow orders. The UN leadership is abdicating it's responsibility to ensure the safety of the soldiers that countries have generously provided them. So they're having Peacekeepers that no longer have a missions stay in an obvious warzone because why? The leadership at the UN is acting like children here. They're putting lives at risk for their own petty reasons.
Because the UN obviously failed to disarm Hezbollah. Hezbollah were planning to use the weapons the UN failed to take from to attack Israel in a similar way (but on a larger scale) to October 7.
The Peacekeepers failed to keep the peace. Hezbollah has been firing rockets (which according to the UN, they shouldn't have) at Israel for a year. Many times at civilian population centers.
There is no reason for Peacekeepers to stay in a war zone.
That's good for you to admit that Hamas, Hezbollahand the Houthis are attacking Israel. Making progress!
So your main issue is that you want war to be fair, like it's a sport? It's not a sport, people die in wars. Making it fair just means it drags out longer causing more loss of life.
That graph also indicated that Hamas, Hezbollah and the Houthis are outmatched and should give up on trying to defeat Israel on a battle field. They should put down their weapons and sit down at a negotiating table. They aren't going to get everything they want (that's the nature of negotiation) but they'd get something and people don't have to needlessly die in their futile wars. And the longer they fight the less they'll get in any kind of peace.
You've just proven the stupidity of Iran's "Axis of Resistance". But these are fascist strongman "blood and soil" type movements and those type of movements are known for their stupidity resulting in their destruction.
You’re being downvoted on every post you do about this topic, you’ve been here for a year and you know that pretty much nobody agrees with you. I’m really wondering what’s your agenda.
Thanks for noticing!
Also the things I'm saying is consistent with what a majority of people outside of this little echo chamber think. This group you're in is going descending in a downward spiral of hatred. People in the same hatred spiral you're in have already committed violent acts, and more have attempted violence. This hatred of Israel will not lead to anything positive. Nothing good for the Palestinian people will come from this hatred.
I see photos of Gaza and I see a lot of similarity with the photos of German cities at the end of WWII. Germans were so indoctrinated in the politics of hatred (the same politics people here are engaging in) that the refused to accept defeat even when it was obvious to anyone. So they fought to the bitter end for the politics they were too indoctrinated in to accept reality and it destroyed their country.
Unlike the German people, I fear that because of outside pressure Palestinians may not be able to escape the politics of hatred even after they've experienced the destruction it lead to. Too much outside pressure on Palestinians (primarily from Iran, but you can see it even in the rhetoric here) to continue dying for the interests of others rather than negotiating with Israel to get as much as they can for themselves.
The real tragedy of this is that even if there was a ceasefire agreement tomorrow, a conflict similar to this will probably happen again for the next generation. It won't be because of people like me that call for Hamas to surrender. It'll be because of the people like you that "disagree with me" who push for Arabs to continue dying to serve the interests of Iranians.
Someone has to tell the truth around here, no matter how unpopular it may be.
Yeah not gonna read that
Yeah reading is hard. But if you put in some effort, I'm sure you can get better at it.
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