Is this really guess-free ?

2 years ago by DeadNinja to c/minesweeper

2 mines left, and this is supposed to be No-guess.

However, it seems that there can be two answers to this -

(A) The top square of the top pair and the top square of the bottom pair, can both be mines.

(B) The bottom square of the top pair and the bottom square of the bottom pair, can both be mines.

But then this is not really guess free, is it ?

(Note - I did go with option (A), and it proved to be right. But my original question still stands).

What am I missing ?

ccunning 51 points 2 years ago

Unless I’m missing something…

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…I think column 3; row 6 holds the answer.

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Alexstarfire 15 points 2 years ago

Yep

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DeadNinja 13 points 2 years ago

Bang on !

I don't know how I missed that. But thanks for pointing that out !

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NeatNit 11 points 2 years ago

I think you missed it because of the "highlight unsolved numbers" option, which greys out numbers that have all their mines even if the rest of the squares aren't all open. I recommend you turn that off.

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DeadNinja 3 points 2 years ago

I did that just now, and it certainly seems to help ! Thank you kind stranger !

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em2 29 points 2 years ago

The set I circled shows which square is safe, determining the mines for the other areas.

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OsrsNeedsF2P 10 points 2 years ago

You have a 4 with 4 marked landmines around it, but you didn't click the 5th adjacent tile

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expatriado 3 points 2 years ago

used to play that game 20+ years ago, idk if they made it guess-free now, but back then i would encounter this from time to time, at that that point it was about chances, in this case looks like 50/50

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Tyoda 4 points 2 years ago

Yeah they make guess-free versions now. It's much more fun when you know that you're too stupid to finish it and it's not simply impossible! In a normal version OP would have probably guessed one at random fairly quickly, but here OP kept thinking "what am I missing?".

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quandang 2 points 2 years ago

You're missing the grayed-out 4 to the bottom left of the lowest unopened cell. That 4 means the lowest unopened cell is not a bomb. The rest just unravels from there

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Flagstaff 1 point 2 years ago

Row 3, column 6 shows a 4 with all mines flagged around it.

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