A ton of First Born marine stuff is going to Legends

3 years ago by vladmech to c/warhammer40k

Pretty wild. When they announced Primaris this is what I thought they were going to do, but then after two full editions of old/new marines living together I'd assumed they'd given up on that idea. So many classics are heading out...

fearofthedark 9 points 3 years ago

A sad day indeed, I still don't understand why they didn't just do a redesign instead of the whole Primaris thing.

The miniatures for the Horus Heresy are great, so updating old kits with new ones could have worked really well.

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Garzak 7 points 3 years ago

I came here to say the same thing. The primaris range does not feel like space marines. They’re great, but the Rhino, predator and land speeder are iconic.

Space marines using flyers tank is heresy.

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fearofthedark 7 points 3 years ago

I have no problem with the new models, sure some of it isn't my kind of thing but that has always been the case.

For me one of the big draws of 40k was the empire in decline narrative. Ancient technology being kept alive by techno-priests, the fact that most of the technology is irreplaceable, the emperor who created these super humans is a corpse so this is what we have. It isn't going to get better. Primaris marines sort of shit all over that.

I won't be buying any, but fair play to folks who do. Hobbies are about what you enjoy, not what other folks will.

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jantin 4 points 3 years ago

Land Speeder was my first 40k mini and like it or not, it still holds its own and remains a decent design. Toy-like, but not childish, unlike baby holder exosuits or pram-buggies. Clearly Warhammer, but looks somewhat plausible unlike abominations like Stormhawk.

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OnlyAwfulNamesLeft 3 points 3 years ago

Wait, they're getting rid of Scouts entirely? That seems weird. Perhaps they'll get a replacement in the new reveals, but if not, that's a big departure.

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vladmech 6 points 3 years ago

My bet is we see Primaris Scouts introduced in a Kill Team box soon, but yeah such a departure.

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dazpaints 3 points 3 years ago

@vladmech @OnlyAwfulNamesLeft that’s a popular rumor currently circulating. The GW article did mention most retiring units have analogues with Primaris, so new scouts does seem highly likely!

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Xtallll 3 points 3 years ago

I'm surprised that the Chaplin isn't on the list for cuts.

I expect that, deviator, and tactical squads to get cut next edition. That would leave only Centurions and Vetren Vanguard squad as the only first born marines.

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Styxie 2 points 3 years ago

This is disappointing. I collect a firstborn Deathwatch army, and there are a couple of units in this list that I had planned on adding to my collection, specifically bikers, and a land speeder storm.

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julietOscarEcho 1 point 3 years ago

I'm same, except I already bought and assembled 😢

I like that they explicitly called out using them to proxy newer units, I'll definitely be fielding my "outriders" and "storm speeders" after meticulously kitbashing. This is almost as good as what I think everyone wanted in the first place: unit refreshes instead of codex bloat.

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emr 1 point 3 years ago

Shame about Rhinos. Hope Chaos gets to keep their Rogue Trader stuff. The redesigned Rhino was never as cool anyway though.

Wish they'd taken the opportunity to design something nicer than the replusor though, that thing is ugly.

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