Except that the slave owners were fine after the civil war. There were no mass executions, they got to keep their property (slaves excepted) and they retained so much political power they managed to reverse reconstruction within a few decades.
There's no reason you couldn't dissolve the apartheid state without the violence Zionists claim would be wrought on them. South Africa can be a model for this.
... If we had been more rough on the slave owners America would be a far better place.
No statues to hitler and goering in Germany.
Except the North didn't want mass executions and was willing to let the South keep their institutions.
I can assure you, Israel's neighbors would be more than happy to burn it to the ground. So while you could dissolve the Zionist state, you would have to do so while still supporting the defense of Israel, or else you'd just switch from a massacre of Palestinians to a massacre of Jews.
So what you are saying, Israel neighbours would be happy to do with Israel the same Israel do to Gaza?
Is it an argument against? So we should have saved Nazis in the 2WW, yes?
Civil War was a country fighting itself for a few years. Israel and Palestine have been at odds for... Ever. There's a little more animosity than the civil war. Also dissolving the apartheid state is anathema to Israel because they don't want to share the land.
Israel and Palestine haven't been at odds forever, they were at odds since WW1. There were long periods in time where people lived peacefully. There were religious tolerance laws going back to like 600AD. Christian pilgrims going there en masse. Treaties between Crusaders and Egypt allowing for religious freedoms. Almost 500 years of Ottoman rule, where anyone could practice any religion if they paid a tax. Communities had autonomy and could govern themselves according to their own laws - be it Christian, Jewish or Muslim. Said tax also exempt you from military service and was "proof" of allegiance to the state. Women, children, elders didn't have to pay the tax at all. There were exceptions for basically anyone who couldn't pay it - handicapped people for instance. If you were allowed to join the army, then when you did, the tax was waived with all the benefits still being given to you. Hell, some even were exempt for being too poor to pay it. The tax was cirqa 10 days of expenses of an average family. The richer you were, the tax went higher.
You also need to remember, that the population of Palestine was like 200k, with all the now huge cities having maybe 5k people in them in the 15th hundreds. 700k people in the early 20th century, when the Brits pulled a switcharoo and established a Jewish state. Any animosity from the past was long gone. The issues are because Jewish people were being resettled into Palestine in alarming numbers. Also, the literal decimation of palestinian population by the brits in 39'. Also the 700k people displaced in the Nakba. Also the further 400k displaced later. The genocide was happening in the 20th century. With people earlier living in a relatively free society. The formation of the state of Israel began with countries basically throwing a "hot potato" to Palestine, by genociding their own Jewish populations by sending them to Palestine. A one state solution was within reach, but it's hard to do if you just draw straight lines on the map and call it a day.
As for the current day - Germany was the most horrific country during WW2 with countless warcrimes and mass killings, genocide of a few different cultures / countries, and the Holocaust. Now, after the war, Germany was welcomed back into Europe, rebuilt and is playing the first fiddle in the European Union, alongside France (and until recently the UK). If that can happen after Prussia, two World Wars, after Hitler, after the Holocaust, then a peace in Palestine is 100% possible.
What needs to happen is someone needs to kick Netanyahu in the balls really really hard. The government of Israel needs to change. The United States needs to stop its unconditional support of Israel - instead basing it on Israel and Palestine staying peaceful. And with time, wounds will heal. People will marry one another. Communities will blend together. And even if a single state solution is probably off the table in any way, shape or form, for at least a century, a two state solution is feasible.
The issue is, the US doesn't need a peaceful Middle East. They need the "unsinkable aircraft carrier". The US government doesn't care that Palestine is disappearing and Israel is taking over. They might care that they antagonize Iran by bombing Iran. But at the end of the day, it's just a statistic and "single issue vote" to many people, instead of the horrific reality. So until US voters see peace in the Middle East as an important issue, the genocide will continue.
The ANC made a special point to protect the apartheidists during their Truth and Reconciliation hearings. It wasn't until said white farmers began violently resisting efforts to repatriate land to native farmers that the government lost control of retribution. Even then, they weren't "slaughtered". Many simply abandoned the properties after the ANC failed to intercede on their behalf.
Quite a few white South Africans are currently leaving to become converts to Judaism in order to participate in the Israeli Settler Movement
From a former Pentecostal pastor to entire families, a growing number of Afrikaners are converting to Orthodox Judaism and swapping South Africa for Israel – and, in many cases, West Bank settlements
All of them? I'm pretty sure there's still a lot of white south Africans around, just because there were a few incidents doesn't make it largely peaceful. The alternative to a peaceful transition is Rhodesia, if you want to go the route of constant escalation.
If my family owned slaves they could go fuck themselves. Sorry to hear family is more important to you than not supporting horrifying amounts of racism, I hope they're not voting for trump
If my family are genocidal cunts, they get the least dramatic ending that stops their bullshit, and not one bit less.
It is like saying that someone who had a family living in Nazi Germany definitely had to support holocaust and the Nazis.
No, because after the war we didn't just wait 10 years and let the nazis take power again and reinstitute their racism, their ghettos, and a scaled down, more personal version of the holocaust.
And tbf, Hitler wrote about Jim Crow as a shining example for Germany in Mein kampf.
Germans at least showed remorse, we don't have statues of Hitler and goering around everywhere still.
Nazis are in charge of Israel for a while and Israel is yet to be disarmed so I am not sure what is you are talking about.
I think you really need to look up the definition of the word nazi...
Nobody from or in any way related to the National Socialist Party of Germany (NSDAP) is currently in any form of power in Israel.
I think you really need to look up the definition of the word nazi...
Okay, let's see..
a person who seeks to impose their views on others in a very autocratic or inflexible way.
Words sometimes mean more than one thing.
You have been misinformed.
Kinda did tho, unless you wanted to be part of the holocaust yourself.
That's like saying German citizens during WW2 should be killed, raped and tortured. Black and white is usually the wrong way to go about thinking.
Without commenting on whether I agree with the screenshot, I'd like to ask a question - what do you (as in, the people who would like to see "Zionism" defeated) think will happen if "Zionism" will be defeated?
The same as happened in Germany. People guilty of war crimes and supporting nazi regime would end in prison. What do YOU think would happen to them?
of the people involved in the nazi governement few were actually prosecuted after the war...
Too few, that's true.
You think Hamas would treat Israelis the same as the allied forces treated Germans? Based on what?
To answer your question:
https://en.wikipedia.org/... (as well as the mass murder of civilians that for some reason aren't mentioned in the section)
Firstly, who was talking about Hamas? I never said Israel should be disarmed by Hamas. It should be disarmed by an international coalition, which would then it turn guarantee harsh punishment for Israeli war criminals starting with Netanyahu and safety for civilian population within Israel internationally recognises borders.
Secondly, I belive Hamas would treat Israeli the same way Israel treats Palestinians. Go figure.
Do they mean the USA civil war and that south, or one of many other civil wars?
The USA South is fine. Fully integrated. They just couldn't be dicks for a while.
Legally integrated, but I wouldn't say fully. Source: living in the South.
Well of course, he's talking about the War of Palestinian aggression. Where his ancestors fought against the Palestinian incursions into the peaceful Israel South to stop his people from being oppressed and their way of life radically altered, if not extinguished! They would have won it if not for the blockade and Emancipation Proclamation.
First world is not "best world" but western aligned countries
Second world is not "the meh world" but eastern block aligned countries
The third world isn't "shit hole" but non-aligned countries
I thought we all learned this already
The third world isn't "shit hole" but non-aligned countries
That's the etymology but this definition really changed since and the "third world" is often used to describe poor countries (also "developing countries").
Fuck off, yankee. Like the rest of the country doesn't have backwoods towns with morons in it too, oh no, that's purely a southern problem. And racism? No, no, places like Ohio and Illinois and fuckin Glendale, California don't have racist idiots, certainly.
Any problem you can find with the south can be found anywhere else in the country, y'all just like to put blinders on.
Children have a right to be exploited for cheap labor like everyone else!
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