So ... how are we going to interact with our reddit siblings?

3 years ago by maegul to c/startrek

Shall we embrace cross posting?

Shall we have links in our bios if we have accounts on both? Is anyone here actively using both at the same time? How's it going?

Any advocacy on the sub-reddits by cross posting lemmy threads/comments and maybe doing more?

Or we just ignore each other?

GuyFleegman 62 points 3 years ago

One of the most annoying things about Mastodon during the Twitter migration at the beginning of this year was that the only thing Mastodon wanted to talk about was "the Birdsite."

It sure would be nice if we could get through that phase of the Reddit migration at a vastly accelerated pace.

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SoupOfTheDay 15 points 3 years ago

I’m fine with the site being a black sheep, but most of us are refugees. We are going to have growing pains and people will trickle/stream in over time. The best way to ensure the fedverse dies before living is to make talk about Reddit a taboo or a thing to ridicule. People are going to complain, just don’t engage and over time it’ll die out.

At the moment I personally welcome cross posting. I’m dying for content right now. Haven’t found a lot of mags to join. I would start some but I would be shit for modding or content creation.

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SkepticElliptic 5 points 3 years ago

We need to make a request to the devs to autocorrect "Reddit" to "Cabbage" just to spice things up a bit.

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SoupOfTheDay 4 points 3 years ago

Can we do John Oliver instead?

“Shits really gone downhill on John Oliver since all the subs started only posting pics of John Oliver”

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samus12345 12 points 3 years ago

This is going to happen again in July when the 3PAs die. Allowing people to vent about reddit will make them more likely to want to spend more time here.

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Corgana 5 points 3 years ago

"Speak for yourself, sir. I plan to shit talk forever."

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Cantstopthesignal 39 points 3 years ago

Regardless of how everyone feels about Discovery, remember how the crew had to leave behind all their families, friends, and loved ones for the greater good when they were flung 1000 years into the future? I think that's us.

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JWBananas 14 points 3 years ago

Regardless of how everyone feels about Discovery

You know what I haven't seen yet? Literally anyone complaining that Spock >!cried!< in the latest episode of SNW.

Keep that in mind next time you come across someone complaining about Burnham.

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Corgana 5 points 3 years ago

BACK IN MY DAY TWO MEN WOULD NEVER BRUSH THEIR TEETH

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a_cat 6 points 3 years ago

OK I love this analogy XD

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astroturds 6 points 3 years ago

I'm proud to serve with you all

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samus12345 5 points 3 years ago

The Fediverse is Michael Burnham?

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maddy 4 points 3 years ago

We are certainly taking the (Reddit-)Sphere data away from (spez's) Control as far as possible.

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rob_t_firefly 30 points 3 years ago

Ever go on a date with someone and all they talk about is their ex?

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Newby 18 points 3 years ago

I think it should just be a personal choice. If you want to interact and reference reddit, great. If you want to stay off reddit, great.

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trekchu 18 points 3 years ago

Shall we embrace crossposting? -- Absolutely. Most content on Reddit is crossposted from god knows where. It's how sites like this work.

Shall we have links in our bios? -- Depends. I certainly won't-

Advocacy? -- I was never active enough over there to speak to that, but... up to you. I'm waiting to hear that speaking of alternatives has become a bannable offence.

Ignore?

-- I think that's wrong. See 1 as for why.

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aufsichtsrat 1 point 3 years ago

Well said!

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CeruleanRuin 17 points 3 years ago

We must be compassionate to our lost brothers and sisters, and guide them gently to the light of federation.

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gingerrich 16 points 3 years ago

Personally I'll be staying here and not going back to Reddit. I'd been winding down my use of Reddit recently anyway so the blackout was just the little push I needed to delete my account.

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klinkertinlegs 2 points 3 years ago

Ditto. I was looking for a reason to bail from Reddit, then they gave me a really great one. I wanted out of my main account because it was my 1st+2nd initial and last name, and there was no way to change it. I didn't like that info being front and center. So I was looking for an out anyway

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somniumx 1 point 3 years ago

I've begun over the past few months to curate my reddit to a point where there is no all, no popular, no hey you might like XYZ. On PC and in my app.
So I'm a bit annoyed that this has to start all over again. But it me good to start somewhere smaller and new, without algorithms that fuel your anger anyway.

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CubitOom 13 points 3 years ago

Post on fediverse first, then screenshot it and share with other socials saying it's from lemmy or wherever in the headline. Maybe even say which community it's from. And it could be a watermark of some kind too.

The more people are aware of the fediverse communities, the more they might check it out and just leave reddit entirely.

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naeap 3 points 3 years ago

why not directly link to the Lemmy post as a source?

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CubitOom 4 points 3 years ago

Apparently posts with lemmy links have been actively taken down

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naeap 3 points 3 years ago

well, that's not my fault, when they don't want to host post with links to useful information

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CubitOom 1 point 3 years ago

Nope, not your fault. But if we want to help people migrate from reddit to the fediverse then it's an obstacle we need to be aware of.

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zachariah 2 points 3 years ago path: 0 289184 294888, hotness: undefined, score: 2, children: 0
naeap 12 points 3 years ago

I would at least give it some time. currently I don't want to give Reddit any traffic

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MyMulligan 7 points 3 years ago

Agreed. But if you post a link to the website or article directly and not to reddit I think it can jump start activity here.

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spasm01 12 points 3 years ago

I am attempting to stay off of deaddit myself, but sometimes its the only site that has the information I need. I do think repeating posts is a good idea

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Monkeyhog 12 points 3 years ago

They are all dead to me.

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vaguerant 7 points 3 years ago

Reddshirts.

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makeitso 11 points 3 years ago

Reddit feels like addiction to me, while the fediverse feels exciting and like I’m having real conversations with people.

I have popped on to Reddit a couple of times to help with a couple of subs I’m a part of but god it’s just trash over there to me now…I really don’t want to be there. I deeply resent what they’ve done to it over time.

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Chocrates 7 points 3 years ago

The amount of times I have been bored and opened my phone to reddit out of reflex is shocking. I need to do a technology fast or something

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kattaru 5 points 3 years ago

You're just going to end up being bored again, opening your phone to lemmy out of reflex someday.

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Chocrates 3 points 3 years ago

Agreed, this particular issue is less a reddit vs Lemmy problem and more a problem with my own habits and technology addiction

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makeitso 5 points 3 years ago

It’s actually wild. The addiction is very real.

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dustojnikhummer 4 points 3 years ago

I deleted Relay and kept the spot where the icon used to be. I keep pressing it about 10 times per day.

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shirro 11 points 3 years ago

There isn't much OC in Reddit posts. It's strength has always been as an aggregator with community discussions. I think repost the original sources but not the Reddit links.

Eventually our technology and civilisation will surpass them and we will have to consider if they have achieved the required maturity to join our Federation. Until then we should observe and keep our presence secret.

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verity_kindle 1 point 3 years ago

Like some sort of.... Primary Directive? I incite the Kirk Amendment.

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nonsense 10 points 3 years ago

Are we the Romulans or are we the Vulcans?

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kingofmadcows 4 points 3 years ago

We're Babylon 5. Steve Huffman is President Clark.

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samus12345 4 points 3 years ago

Definitely the Vulcans.

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DuplexFields 1 point 3 years ago

Escaping to Romulus when the purported followers of Surak became rigid and demanding in their pursuit of an ordered technocratic society, to an intolerable degree. We leave the hallowed halls of our ancestors: their katras, their monuments, their desert cities. We arrive refugees, but here at least we can build a new republic where power is willingly shared.

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leecheroflife 9 points 3 years ago

I am going to keep my reddit for the time being but try to see how I can go with using purely Lemmy, and learning how it all works.

If it becomes appropriate to mention in subreddits that this is a viable alternative, or there is already a parallel server, then I don't think there's harm in letting people know and letting them decide, I won't however be blatantly advertising it

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Aeonx 8 points 3 years ago

Personally, my goal is to set aside the time to post or comment on the most interesting, informative, helpful tutorials that cannot be found here. To scrape reddit data via RSS and if it's interesting and not on lemmy or kbin see that it is mirrored here, so that it has the same plus more content. Getting lemmy and kbin results to show up in search results. If there is a way to improve the webui I would like to be part of it, if not the development part then at least the conversation. I'd donate $$s to make this place look and feel better than it does.

But posting on reddit...I had already stopped or reduced posting due to how often I was downvoted for not following the grain, or my replies not showing up or being deleted automatically. Some forums telling me I could not vote because my karma was too low but karma always getting deducted because I didn't think the same way as the majority subreddit. Here is the first time where I haven't been less afraid to speak...where I can be upvoted/downvoted and it doesn't even matter. Reddit is dead to me, and I will never cross-post interesting information to it except to say come join us in developing an alternative - and I can't even be bothered to do that.

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deepthaw 7 points 3 years ago

Civilly? I deleted my reddit account but I really don't feel aggrieved by people who stayed there.

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Commod0re 6 points 3 years ago

I’m not going back to reddit so “interacting” for me will be limited to if they come here

I bear ongoing users no ill will, I’ve just already deleted my account and I’m just not going to support reddit by using it anymore even as a lurker

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speck 5 points 3 years ago

Crossposting in a context of a platform rife with re-postings doesn't sound too appealing.

Repeat content in inevitable, of course. But on Reddit, it is accelerated because of the karma system, bots, and karma farming. The desire for more content and traffic in the fediverse is to improve the quality of experience for existing users and to make it more enticing to new ones joining. I would argue that is not the purpose of content generation on Reddit.

Maybe I'm muddying that aspect of the question, though.

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techno156 4 points 3 years ago

Although cross-posting things from Reddit would help, by helping supply a stream of new content for users to talk about, while the community is small, and doesn't have that much to stay active.

The community is less enticing to new users if it seems "dead" because of a low number of infrequent posts.

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JakeBacon 5 points 3 years ago

I think ignoring is the wrong way to go for sure. Personally I un-installed my app for Lemmy but I might reinstall it.

The reason I might reinstall it is just to help improve Lemmy. For example, most of my news for League of Legends came from the subreddit and the Lemmy community I found is basically dead. So, if I want to help improve Lemmy I could look at reddit for the news and then repost it (linking the original source, not reddit).

Also, think about all the subreddits that make content from Twitter and Tumblr, it's possible some people will want to be on Reddit and Lemmy for the same reason.

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maegul 5 points 3 years ago

Yea I think there’s a healthy perspective here. Many want Twitter and Reddit to die completely. Realistically, that won’t happen, not soon anyway. What’s happening now is more of a fracturing where different people can be happy in different places in the same way that there was a time when everyone was either on Twitter or Facebook and that time passed too.

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techno156 3 points 3 years ago

At the moment, they're a bit on the "too big to fail" side. Digg is still around, despite much of the user base leaving for Reddit, and I imagine both Twitter and Reddit will still be around in some shape or form, even if Lemmy/Mastodon somehow make it big in the same way.

That's not even getting into things like how Reddit posts are still some of the more useful sources of information/discussion on the internet, due to the decline of forums and bulletin boards, so people will end up returning to it in some shape or form, if only to try and get recommendations/solve problems that they're having.

What might make them more likely to die is if they're not profitable, and they run out of money without being bought up, but that's less everyone leaving, and more the service shutting up shop overnight.

Which both parties seem to be trying to do in one way or another. Twitter is haemorrhaging money, and Reddit's recent controversies can't be doing good things to its stock price if the CEO more or less implied the company was not competent enough to make their own app profitable.

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Widget 2 points 3 years ago

Reddit is determined to be 9gag. Lots of people like 9gag.

Best we can do is offer somewhere where the people who were on reddit for reddit have somewhere to go.

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MyMulligan 4 points 3 years ago

Exactly this. Lemmy is a little dead without content for us to comment on. I see no problem with reddit lurkers finding information and posting the original website's link. Like you said, social media is awash with reposts from other social media sites. I often joke with what new meme my wife may have found on FB that I saw it on reddit first.

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can 1 point 3 years ago

I've been waiting for someone to make a Curatedtumblr community. I think all the users actually left for Tumblr.

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JakeBacon 2 points 3 years ago

I rolled up a Tumblr account because I was thinking the same thing, but it really doesn't fill the social media niche I want like Reddit.

Lemmy is doing a much better job of that, although I'm curious to see what happens to the user base as time goes on.

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maegul 2 points 3 years ago

Well tumblr are supposed to come to the fediverse at some point. And they reportedly were receiving people from the Twitter migration.

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techno156 1 point 3 years ago

There does seem to be one if you search across all Lemmy communities, but it is dead and very tiny.

Some of the users might also have retreated to the discord server, since /r/CuratedTumblr had an official one, while others just went for tumblr directly.

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CoffeeNerd 4 points 3 years ago

Personally, I don't want crossposts from a whole other site. At that point just copy their own link and post it here. Unless your goal is to give Reddit even more traffic. If we were just to copy (steal) their posts, it would be enough to keep me here.
I was on Reddit for news. Whether it's mechanical keyboards, monitors, anything tech really, a game I play, new homekit devices or a new protocol, Apple stuff, streaming stuff, movies, sports or regular news. Sure I also did google some odd questions from time to time that would lead me to Reddit but it was far from my primary purpose. So for kbin to be a viable solution I just need people to buy into this. To start posting here instead whenever something happens or releases within one of my hobbies.

For now I use both but I'm much less on Reddit. I used to read a book every other day but I've considerably slowed down within the past year so most of the time I used to spend on Reddit has been spent elsewhere this past week.

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Widget 1 point 3 years ago

Probably depends on the sub.

On research and research-adjacent subs it's pretty common for the poster to make a text post with a link to a paper, quote the part of the abstract or conclusion that actually contains the new/important part, and then maybe add a bit of their own commentary about the significance or new questions it opens as well.

Those are the sorts of cross-posts I'd like to see. But if it's just a link or a meme, there's no real benefit.

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uint8_t 4 points 3 years ago

will cross posting to reddit even be possible with their API closure after end of June?

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lasagna 4 points 3 years ago

I think not. This is the kind of Reddit is trying to get rid of.

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techno156 1 point 3 years ago

Manually, yes, but probably not if you intend on using a bot to do the same.

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Aaron-Davis363 4 points 3 years ago

I don't mind if there's no cross posting. I'm sure people of a particular instance and board will be able to generate and aggregate content just fine on their own.

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SparkIT 4 points 3 years ago

TIL Reddit users have bios /s

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exscape 4 points 3 years ago

Same but minus the sarcasm. Only been there for 15 years. I assume it's a "new reddit" thing.

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chriskoss 4 points 3 years ago

We should copy content from reddit, but label it "repost from 4chan", so they have to try to crawl 4chan archives to see if the content was actually first posted on Reddit

make it expensive for them to claim ownership of UGC

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atlasraven31 2 points 3 years ago

I've taken the new reddit direction as a challenge to the users to see how much trouble we can cause.

First to the Key!

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