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fubo 104 points 3 years ago

Oh, is that why none of them are black?

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Tatters 69 points 3 years ago

Or even average looking.

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bitsplease 35 points 3 years ago

In using Stable Diffusion for a DnD related project, I've found that it's actually weirdly hard to get it to generate people (of either sex) that aren't attractive - I wonder if it's a bias in the training materials, or a deliberate bias introduced into the models because most people want attractive people in their AI pics

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bionicjoey 41 points 3 years ago

It's trained on professionally taken photos. Professional photographers tend to prefer taking photos of attractive subjects.

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nrezcm 11 points 3 years ago

Yeah all of my professional photographers hate me.

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bitsplease 6 points 3 years ago

That's true, but it's not like ugly people don't get photographed - ultimately a professional photographer is going to take photos of whoever pays them to do so. That explanation accounts for part of the bias I think, but not all of it

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FaceDeer 31 points 3 years ago

They were created via a prompt, that prompt probably included some tags to make them more attractive. It's often standard practice to put tags like "ugly" and "deformed" into the negative prompts just to keep the hands and facial features from going wonky.

There are no elderly women, no female toddlers, and so forth either. Presumably just not what whoever generated this was going for. You can get those from many AI models if you want them.

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IHeartBadCode 5 points 3 years ago

Battleship coordinates, (B10). Also (I4) looks a lot like my niece. I really think it depends on your definition of "average" though. But as @fubo indicated. There are 0% black people in this photo. There's some vaguely Asian, roughly Middle Eastern looking, sort of South American, and whatever that is going on in (M8). But there are distinctly zero black people pictured.

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Thorny_Thicket 2 points 3 years ago

Now I'm curious. What's average looking to you if none of these aren't?

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Tatters 15 points 3 years ago

Older and fatter for a start.

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Mubelotix 0 points 3 years ago

Are you american?

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WhiteHawk 11 points 3 years ago

These people are (almost) all young, attractive and have flawless skin

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30mag 3 points 3 years ago
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ubermeisters 2 points 3 years ago
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Blamemeta -11 points 3 years ago

Thats what pops into your head first?

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fubo 23 points 3 years ago

It's one thing that strikes me as kinda odd.

But then, the other day I was messing around with an image generation model and it took me way too long to realize that it was only generating East Asian-looking faces unless explicitly instructed not to.

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FaceDeer 8 points 3 years ago

Every model is going to have something as its "average case." If you want the model to generate something else you'll have to ask it.

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Blamemeta 3 points 3 years ago

Models generally trend towards one thing. Its hard to create a generalized model, from a mathematical standpoint. You just have to say what you want.

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fubo 2 points 3 years ago

Yep, but you can't just say "diversity plz".

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WarmSoda 0 points 3 years ago
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Kolanaki 37 points 3 years ago

"Not just these women, but all pictures of all women everywhere. Women are a myth!"

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LazaroFilm 10 points 3 years ago

Just like birds.

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versionist 27 points 3 years ago

That's a lot of white chicks.

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cyberpunk2350 24 points 3 years ago

Really it's like 6, copy pasted over and over

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spammedevito 8 points 3 years ago

Yeah, a lot of the faces look very very similar!

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WhiteHawk -3 points 3 years ago

So?

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isVeryLoud 7 points 3 years ago

Points to a limited dataset including mostly white people

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kromem 4 points 3 years ago

Without knowing the prompt vs the model, it's impossible to say which side of things is responsible for the lack of variety.

Many modern models are actually very good at reversing sample biases in the training set.

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isVeryLoud 1 point 3 years ago

Good point

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M0ty 26 points 3 years ago

The astronaut one is funny

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RobinRoswell 13 points 3 years ago

casually takes off pressurized helmet on the moon

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realitista 3 points 3 years ago

Where is it? I looked everywhere, couldn't find it.

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EmoDuck 4 points 3 years ago

6th row from the bottom towards the middle, left of the cop

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mPony 15 points 3 years ago

They mostly all look like that one girl from that show, whatever it was.

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kajko 1 point 3 years ago

Mila Kunis?

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MortBoBort 13 points 3 years ago

My god, soon they will be making them nsfw!

They what!? Oh my

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BrianTheeBiscuiteer 31 points 3 years ago path: 0 1993257 1998061 1999623, hotness: undefined, score: 31, children: 2
MinusPi 8 points 3 years ago

Wow, you sure that's AI? That's really impressive!

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flustered 4 points 3 years ago

wow cant even tell the difference.

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chaorace 3 points 3 years ago

Can you imagine this technology being used to impersonate a president? It would be bedlam, but fortunately there are no girl presidents!

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ZoopZeZoop 2 points 3 years ago

I believe they are already doing that to make fake nude leaks for celebrities. It'll be scary.

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Transcendant 12 points 3 years ago

Impressive and a bit horrifying. Still, it seems to have a big problem recreating hands. A dating profile with a set of profile pics that doesn't feature a hand will now become suspect... until it cracks hands, too.

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Harrison 6 points 3 years ago

Plenty of models can do hands just fine

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7112 9 points 3 years ago

That is some how cool and creepy all at once. I guess it gives a macro-view of what we consider attractive.

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T156 14 points 3 years ago

Not really. OP doesn't mention how they were generated, and how the pictures were selected.

It could just reflect the kinds of photos that went into the image generator, and the biases that were in its training data, unless the photos were chosen based on an attractiveness survey or some such.

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GenderNeutralBro 0 points 3 years ago

Most of these look like the same person with different hair and makeup, so it could just be a very specialized network.

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FaceDeer 8 points 3 years ago

It gives a view of what whoever generated these images considers attractive.

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Alwaysfallingupyup 9 points 3 years ago

This AI has a type

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db2 8 points 3 years ago

A16, C7, still not quite there with hands. 😬

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canthidium 7 points 3 years ago

L15 also, wtf is going on there

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SilentStorms 3 points 3 years ago

I can't decide if B8 or L15 is my favourite.

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db2 3 points 3 years ago

She has only one buttock 🤣

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Cowabunghole 1 point 3 years ago

The one right below it has 6 fingers also

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theory 4 points 3 years ago

We all have trouble drawing hands hahahah.

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db2 1 point 3 years ago

Truth.

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WarmSoda 1 point 3 years ago

Shh they'll find us

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SilentStorms 3 points 3 years ago

There's a ton of fucked up hands in there. It also seems to struggle with handbags. It's kinda fun to try to find one that isn't flawed in some way, I haven't found one that isn't.

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xerothermickerasine 3 points 3 years ago

The hands are the giveaway in an otherwise convincing image almost every time.

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Zoomboingding 3 points 3 years ago

L15 has a unibutt

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realitista 1 point 3 years ago

And sadly her friend is looking at it and laughing. Some friend.

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fiat_lux 3 points 3 years ago

Finally, some positive representation in media for people with diverse bodies / disability! /s

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chetradley 2 points 3 years ago

Check out the fand on A7

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Mangoholic 5 points 3 years ago

real females remixed

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ZzyzxRoad 8 points 3 years ago

Most real women don't look like twenty year old thin white models.

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Mangoholic 1 point 3 years ago

But clearly that was the dataset used here.

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mojo 4 points 3 years ago

A lot of them look like they're 16

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Amanduh 4 points 3 years ago

There are repeats too

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treadful 3 points 3 years ago

The cop probably has pointy elbows.

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mintiefresh 2 points 3 years ago

This is wild.

Is there a source or article to read or something?

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III 1 point 3 years ago

Tell me they didn't allow American source material without telling me they didn't allow American source material.

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Mr_Dr_Oink 1 point 3 years ago

At least 15 of those women are mila kunis

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dan1101 1 point 3 years ago

There is that one brunette on the right, reminds me of a movie/video I saw where the same AI woman kept popping up.

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