The PlayStation Network has been taken completely offline across all platforms for more than half a day, preventing online gaming, store purchases, game updates, and more

2 years ago by alessandro to c/pcgaming

Feels good to be a PC gamer right about now.
warm 94 points 2 years ago

It's still crazy to me that people will pay 30% tax on all their games and then fork over another $120/year just to be able to play them. Or in Playstation's case, to not play them.

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falidorn 6 points 2 years ago

The new game price difference between PC and console is largely gone. There aren’t many games released simultaneously on both console and pc that aren’t $70 nowadays. I definitely agree on the PSN cost though. Fortunately it takes years for that subscription cost to catch up to the difference in hardware coats.

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yonder 17 points 2 years ago

I believe the 30% is referring to the share of revenue that Sony takes per transaction.

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falidorn 9 points 2 years ago

That doesn’t make sense. Steam takes the same cut. I’m sure all of the vendors do.

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DebatableRaccoon 2 points 2 years ago

Epic made a whole selling point of taking less

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alessandro 1 point 2 years ago

Not for cyberpunk 2077 on GoG, Assassin Creed [stuff] on uPlay, whatever EA thing EA is selling on Origin etc. Also, you can sell steam keys for your own gane, on your own store, without having to pay Valve.

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fakeplastic 0 points 2 years ago
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ILikeBoobies -1 points 2 years ago

Epic’s cut is 10%

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warm 3 points 2 years ago

Big games yeah, but I don't buy those anyway myself. The 30% tax is what Xbox/Playstation take from each game sale. Steam on PC takes 30% too, but doesn't require a subscription ontop of that to use their online services.

You can build a PC as powerful as a console for near enough the same price these days and you save massively in the long term from cheaper games and no subscription. If you have the know how. But yeah, the barrier of entry is lower for a console for sure, but that gap is only closing more and more each year with PCs becoming more accessible.

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falidorn 5 points 2 years ago

That used to be the case. I’d definitely be on your side of the argument before this generation. A $500 investment 4 years ago in an Xbox or PlayStation would run circles around a $500 investment into PC parts back then. Heck, I’d be interested if you could find something similarly powered nowadays. The GPU alone gets you to a digital only ps5.

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warm 2 points 2 years ago

The Arc cards are stronger than the PS5 and are like $200-250 new, you could get used RX 7600/6600XT for cheaper than that. There's definitely paths to a PS5 equivalent PC for a similar price, and even if you spend $100, $200, $300 more, that pays off in 1, 2 or 3 years anyway.

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QuadratureSurfer 43 points 2 years ago

Day one updates and DRM checks introduce extra difficulties when trying to game offline, even if you still purchase physical media.

Would be great if Sony took this as a lesson learned to ditch DRM like this, and make the PlayStation more "offline friendly".

Right now would be a good time to make suggestions to them.

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andyburke 21 points 2 years ago

Corporations don't care about suggestions.

I know if I spent a lot of money on a gaming system and games and because of the corporation's bullshit they weren't working, I would be thinking maybe other players are mad at being scammed, too - there are lawyers who make a lot of money when a bunch of consumers get swindled.

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sunzu2 6 points 2 years ago
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jet 20 points 2 years ago

The trouble with walled gardens is sometimes they have rusty gates

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talos_the_true_god 18 points 2 years ago

You will own nothing, and you will be happy

The day consoles become digital-only is the day I give up console gaming

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nik282000 5 points 2 years ago

You can not steal what you can not own. ☠️

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riquisimo 13 points 2 years ago

Did PlayStation ever make a public statement about why there is an outage? Like what caused it?

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CarbonatedPastaSauce 12 points 2 years ago

Incompetence, poor planning, probably a healthy dash of managerial stupidity not listening to the engineers. And they never drill for this which is why it’s lasted so long. But having your expensive IT staff do regular disaster recovery drills is complex and expensive so almost nobody does it properly.

Recently retired from one of the major telcos. They would do DR exercises with tabletop discussions. No actual testing or hands on. Once I learned that I knew the first big disaster we had I was just gonna walk. It was that bad.

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otter -2 points 2 years ago

Darn.

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Viri4thus -14 points 2 years ago

Meh, don't play online and exactly 0 games have refused to run from BD out of a library of over 60 PS4/5 games.

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falidorn 22 points 2 years ago

“This doesn’t affect me so I don’t care. I’m going to let others know it doesn’t affect me so I can lord it over them.”

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Viri4thus 3 points 2 years ago

Or, alternatively, perhaps exemplify that live services are a pox upon gaming.

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