Karma in lemmy?

a year ago by aprehendedmerlin to c/fediverse

Hi guys just wanted to know if Lemmy has any karma count for people in their profile like Reddit has? If so is it public and How can I access it? Edit: Thanks guys I'm so relieved that this kind of stuff is not prevalent here. I love the Fediverse ❤️

ekZepp 71 points a year ago

mes@lemmy.world-22128226

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CarbonBasedNPU 14 points a year ago

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Dil 9 points a year ago

It encourages shitposting, high karma almost always was related to memes, not being helpful

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TehBamski 6 points a year ago

As a recovering karma whore, I can attest to this.

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CarbonBasedNPU 3 points a year ago

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JackbyDev 2 points a year ago

All you gotta do is post stuff like "thank you to the brave firefighters" on posts involving firefighters. Not knocking on firefighters or trying to diminish their contributions, but it was always hilarious seeing how many top comments basically said nothing more than that. I was always doing it as satire but I don't think people realized.

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the 4 points a year ago

You just received five MeowMeowBeanz.

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TehBamski 1 point a year ago

What's the conversion rate of one MeowMeowBeanz to one Schrute buck?

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bigboismith 60 points a year ago

I know some clients show that, but the culture here is generally quite against the concept. Tends to lead to people being scared of going against the majority and creates a hive mind mentality to keep karma high.

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aprehendedmerlin 19 points a year ago

Hive mind mentality sums up Reddit culture pretty accurately. so happy to be here

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morrowind 22 points a year ago

Unfortunately you're not out of the weeds yet. Lemmy has plenty of hive mind mentality

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aprehendedmerlin 7 points a year ago

Atleast it's not rewarding (hypothetically) like Reddit

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rikudou 13 points a year ago

I mean, it's the same, except you don't get a total number across all your posts.

The hive mind is here as well.

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Bloomcole 0 points a year ago

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FreeBird 11 points a year ago

Don't get me started on Karma farming bots. A Karma system does more harm than good.

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JackbyDev 5 points a year ago

"☝️🤓 you do not have enough karma to post in this community!" Well what the fuck community am I supposed to post in when all the ones I want to post in won't let me!?

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FreeBird 3 points a year ago

Reminds me of this.

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NateNate60 4 points a year ago

Cannot agree more. I say things all the time here that people hate and downvote me for but the numbers are even more useless here than on Reddit so it's difficult to care.

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NateNate60 1 point a year ago

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LostXOR 1 point a year ago

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ExtremeDullard 42 points a year ago

Nope. Post and comment scores are just that - scores. They have zero impact on your account or you standing on your instance. Whether you care about them or not is entirely up to you.

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FundMECFSResearch 7 points a year ago

There are exceptions, I think Piefed (see !piefed_meta@piefed.social ) calculates and uses it in a couple ways.

And some communities like !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net autoban people with low karma scores I think. Using !santabot@slrpnk.net.

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Aedis 3 points a year ago

Thanks for the heads up on which instances to avoid!!

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FundMECFSResearch 7 points a year ago

slrpnk.net in general is a good instance.

This is just a single community in the instance.

And PieFed is a software that is compatible with lemmy. So basically it’s a whole bunch of instances that run piefed, not just one.

And “karma” per say isn’t calculated on piefed, just users who get more downvotes than upvotes on most their comments lose some priviledges.

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Dil 1 point a year ago

People getting massdownvoted here to the point of having negative overall rep tend to be an issue

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Dil 1 point a year ago

I dont mind piefeds version since its only negative for ppl getting primarily downvotes, there isnt a boost for high upvotes

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nahostdeutschland 1 point a year ago

TBH: It does sound bad, but it is one of the best ways to lower the effort needed for moderating. Currently every idiot from every instance can show up in your community and start spamming. You have to clean up after you're back from work and have other things to do. Set a reasonable limit on account age and karma and that will keep the biggest idiots, because they will be banned or downvoted to oblivion before they can start posting in your turf.

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Ceruleum 18 points a year ago

Let's not follow into Reddits footsteps.

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RmDebArc_5 15 points a year ago

AFAIK it used to exist but was removed to avoid recreating stuff like karma farming and minimum karma limits. But it would be pretty easy to make a bash script that manually calculates the karma score

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Pamasich 13 points a year ago

Lemmy doesn't, but other platforms like Mbin might show your total karma among posts federated with that instance.

The instance I'm on tells me your karma is 462.

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aprehendedmerlin 4 points a year ago

I guess that's OK. Atleast it's not everywhere like Reddit

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Valmond 1 point a year ago

How much is mine 😋 ?

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Pamasich 6 points a year ago

25332

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Valmond 2 points a year ago

Wow, thanks!

Yeah better keep that hidden that I spend so much time here 😅

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Chozo 5 points a year ago

Keep in mind, it's not a real score. That's only what that user sees, based on upvotes from servers their instance is federated with. My instance is federated with a different list of servers, so my score for you is slightly different at 25584. Somebody on a third mbin instance will likely see a similar, but still different score.

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TheFogan 11 points a year ago

In short... no, Lemmy developers believe the karma mechanics on reddit incentivize bad behavior. (IE making bots or even just yourself re-creating past succesful posts) or just posting the obvious ideas that one assumes everyone is going to upvote etc...

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troed 9 points a year ago

This is what my Mbin instance profile view shows me:

Reputation points: 4116 Moderated: 0

I'm under the impression the reputation points are either the combined number of upvotes or that minus downvotes, but I don't know. Also, this is an Mbin instance but it's fully federated with Lemmy instances so usually no one separates "Lemmy" and "Mbin" ...

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GregorGizeh 1 point a year ago

If it is the same as for me it should be the sum of your posts and comments. What and how popular wouldn't matter, just each submission equals one point.

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Pamasich 1 point a year ago

If it is the same as for me it should be the sum of your posts and comments.

Not sure what you mean with "if it is the same as for me", considering you're on Lemmy which doesn't have a feature like this.

But it being the sum of posts and comments is verifiably false. My instance knows of 6 posts and 809 comments of yours. Your home instance reports 17 posts and 2.27k comments. Either way, your karma is 8686, which isn't the sum of either of those.

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GregorGizeh 1 point a year ago

I have a sum total displayed in my profile which works as I described, and assumed that is what everyone gets to see.

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Pamasich 1 point a year ago

Huh, I assume that only appears while logged in then. Since I checked your profile on your home instance before writing that comment and didn't see anything (and still don't).

It does indeed seem to not be a thing even on all Lemmy instances, as my lemm.ee account (which runs the same version as lemmy.zip) doesn't have such a number displayed anywhere.

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troed 1 point a year ago

No that's not it. With the two upvotes I have on the post above that number is now shown as 4118.

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e0qdk 1 point a year ago

I'm under the impression the reputation points are either the combined number of upvotes or that minus downvotes

IIRC from kbin -- and assuming mbin didn't change things -- boosts counted for two points while upvotes (favorites) are one point and downvotes (reduces) are one point. Boosts are basically retweets, IIRC, and wouldn't be coming from lemmy users -- just from Mastodon, mbin, and other tools that support it.

Edit: To clarify, I mean downvotes reduce by one point.

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Majorllama 5 points a year ago

If you need fake Internet points to motivate you to be a good person then you are probably not a good person.

I'm not saying you specifically OP, but just in general. If karma was the only reason someone was civil on reddit that gives off the same vibes as the people who ask why we aren't out raping and murdering if we don't believe in God.

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aprehendedmerlin 2 points a year ago

100% agreed. I mostly hate karma because it makes a hive mind mentality since everyone is scared to speak against the norm

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asudox 3 points a year ago

There is no karma counter builtin, but it is also not something hard to implement. But I remember an chromium/firefox extension displaying it. "Karma" in Lemmy can be calculated manually though.

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Ziggurat 3 points a year ago

Note that, at least for people using mbins, _ upvotes are public_ and while downvotes are hidden (Which is weird IMO), instance admins, and people who know how to use lemmy's software API, can access them.

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SubArcticTundra 3 points a year ago

Imo post/comment scores should be hidden too. I've turned them off in my app and it makes for much calmer browsing

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JackbyDev 2 points a year ago

You can view your individual comments' scores, but there is no built in summation across comments you can view.

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pseudo -2 points a year ago

There is ni such thing on Lemmy unfortunatly, there is on PieFed..

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