Sanders Moves to Block Weapons Sales to Israel
2 years ago by return2ozma to c/news
Clearly, Bernie Sanders is an antisemite. He's attempting to stop genocide. How dare he?
This isn't really a big news story, Bernie has been doing this pretty consistently. Yes, he was doing it under Biden too. Yes, this is purely performative, it won't have enough votes. No, this isn't antisemitic.
To do it over and over again may be morality, but it isn't politics.
It is performative. Bernie is an staunch supporter of Israel
"You can support Nazi Germany's right to exist while still condemning the Holocaust
This statement is fully comparable without any exaggeration.
It is mutually exclusive. Anyone who supports the existence of an Apartheid built on genocide supports genocide. There are no its and buts.
It won't get enough votes, but it will force people to vote and show who they really are.
He did not criticize Biden during his entire genocide. Bernie supports the actions of Israel
He stuck (and is sticking) to the party line way too much for way too long, which is something you can criticize him for, but "Bernie supports the actions of Israel" ain't it.
Perhaps, but he might as well be considering his consistent voting record funding Israel
Isn't this the same guy now pushing to block arms sales to Israel?
Bernie is literally the only politician I would trust with this country at this point. What a bunch of fuck ups and morons
Thats the biggest flaw with democracies. Stupid sticks together.
Meanwhile in an another universe: "President Sanders and vice President Ocasio-Cortez congratulate Ukraine for becoming the newest member of the EU and NATO just a year on from a shock invasion and repelling the former Putin regime from the region"
Kick his ass Bernie!
Netanyahu’s “defense” is mass civilian slaughter, funded by U.S. taxpayers. Sanders calls it what it is.
😺😺😺😺😺
Now that Trump is in office. Bernie ignored the children being bombed in Gaza for the past 16 months because he is a Democrat shill.
He did not criticize Biden or Kamala at all and you know that. you're also a Dem shill
You seem to like to make shit up.
You seem to not read the article you posted: "He is steadfastly defending Biden’s record over his nearly four years as president, with some criticisms."
He also goes on so say Biden is the Democrats best choice and supports him
I'm pretty sure Bernie doesn't like you either. I don't like you.
Good, because I'm an actual socialist
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
I wasn't aware being an 'actual socialist' meant being prone to thinking in logical fallacies, I'll keep that in mind.
Hilarious, I'm sure Bernie would love you for supporting a pro capitalist party like he tells you to.
Stop spreading false info. Maybe he isn’t doing it to your particular liking but he is fucking doing it and you’re all over this thread saying the opposite.
2024 Scoop: Sanders seeks to block $20 billion in arms sales to Israel
2023 Sen. Bernie Sanders says aid to Israel should be conditional, citing the toll on Gaza
I did not lie, in those articles he did not criticize the Biden administration, and did not criticize Kamala for her stance on the genocide.
He has approved many arms sales to Israel, you are a hypocrite
I addressed this :
“Now that Trump is in office. Bernie ignored the children being bombed in Gaza for the past 16 months because he is a Democrat shill. ”
In what you read in the articles is he ignoring the children being bombed? Both instances dating back two years addresses bombing that would affect children.
Stop being obtuse and use some literacy and critical thinking skills.
His votes for funding Israel say otherwise. He has known about the situation in Gaza his entire career, yet given tens of billions to them regardless.
Have fun supporting a politician that gives money to a genocidal state.
It's the opposite for genocide, but you and Bernie are cowards
Don't forget the public admission from Israel that they want to kill everyone in Gaza that doesn't leave.
Yes, Hamas is evil and did heinous things to the Israeli people, but the response was disproportionate and targeted civilians. Even the lowest estimates show that one in every fifty people in Gaza have been killed, and that number includes mostly women and children, not combatants. Heck, other estimates show nearly double that death toll.
This. It goes far beyond reckless, far beyond callous; it's literal genocide.
My friend the real death toll could be ten times the 40k killed I'm being told by the media. I don't know, I've never been there. Everything is so fucked it's hard to know who to believe.
The UN has published the estimated deaths to be at least 200k+ because of famine and the lack of medical care.
- Humanitarian aid was blocked
- Food trucks were stopped
- Hospitals are bombed
That's a Genocide.
Oh yeah, no doubt about it. I just can't ever know how many bodies are under the remains of their buildings. I imagine that could even be a conservative number. I doubt they were doing a census.
It's making me sick thinking about it every day and I'm so privileged to even have the luxury of giving a shit.
To add to what the other guy said: As Hamas is an insurgency working in territory that Israel is illegally occupying, Israel does not in fact have a right to defend itself. It has no right to do anything except get the fuck out of Gaza (including its territorial waters and airspace).
That wasn't the question.
They have a right to defend themselves when they are being attacked. They fucked around and are in the process of finding out. They don't have any right to defense when attacking first.
It's really simple. Russia attacked Ukraine so when Ukraine occupied Kursk, Russia has zero right to complain.
The money for these "sales" is aid from the US government.
Israel is unique in that they are the only country that gets its aid from the US government on January 1st, with interest, in cash. They have to use a part of it on American weapons and the rest they just get in cash.
I'm sure Sanders also has a bill or intentions to stop that, but that would be a separate bill.
Yeah with genocide.... fuck Israel, they are trash humans.
It's actually just a limitation of the weapon system. Unfortunately, they switched to the foreskin guidance systems.
Yes, they should defend themselves, but if we sell (not give away) weapons, I don't see anything wrong with that. I'm not saying we should defend Israel with American troops, but Israel has a right to exist and procure weapons
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Would somebody in Congress please listen to Bernie Sanders for a change?
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