Elon Musk Also Has a Problem with Wikipedia

2 years ago by CobraChicken3000 to c/news

Lately, Musk’s beef has merged with a general conviction on the right that the site is biased against conservatives.

"This is not the first time Musk has gone after the site. In December, he posted on X, “Stop donating to Wokepedia.” And that wasn’t even his first bad Wikipedia pun. “I will give them a billion dollars if they change their name to Dickipedia,” he wrote, in an October, 2023, post. It seemed to be an ego thing at first. Musk objected to being described on his page as an “early investor” in Tesla, rather than as a founder, which is how he prefers to be identified, and seemed frustrated that he couldn’t just buy the site. But lately Musk’s beef has merged with a general conviction on the right that Wikipedia—which, like all encyclopedias, is a tertiary source that relies on original reporting and research done by other media and scholars—is biased against conservatives."

redlemace 119 points 2 years ago

Could it be he has issues with freedom of speech/opinion (actually freedom in general) ? Asking for a friend

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Raiderkev 70 points 2 years ago

He has an issue with fact checking, and the fact that his bullshit rhetoric is proven false over and over and over on that site.

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adarza 29 points 2 years ago

just like his buddy-in-a-diaper and everyone else in magaland.

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CobraChicken3000 16 points 2 years ago

Hmmm...you might be on to something, I don't know

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frunch 86 points 2 years ago

Still cracks me up that "fact-checking" is taken to be such an offensive act. "Oh, sorry for correcting your lies! I suppose being exposed as a fraud could interfere with your plans to exploit the public..."

Anyone that has a beef with sites designed to share objective, factual information is someone who benefits from lying or at very least keeping the truth under wraps

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whotookkarl 11 points 2 years ago

Their aggressive stance against fact checking betrays their default position of bad faith & lack of empathy because they have been indoctrinated to the point of absolute unwavering certainly, similar to a cult. They abandon objective reality at all of our peril.

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ramenshaman 72 points 2 years ago

I should donate to Wikipedia

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UraniumForBreakfast 33 points 2 years ago

I should donate to Wikipedia

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Kraiden 26 points 2 years ago
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one_fot_mon 19 points 2 years ago

I donate to Wikipedia

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gressen 9 points 2 years ago

Me too!

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WindyRebel 2 points 2 years ago

I should donate to Wikipedia

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SARGE 53 points 2 years ago
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adarza 45 points 2 years ago

a billion dollars he could fund his own nazipedia.org

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magic_lobster_party 47 points 2 years ago path: 0 15742884 15743033, hotness: undefined, score: 47, children: 10
donuts 44 points 2 years ago

Holy shit, what a sad website. Just a few random snippets:

Marijuana is a highly addictive drug that causes (...) violence and violent fits

Marriage is the divinely ordained covenant between one man and one woman

The Bible, being the most comprehensive transcendent moral authority

🤮

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magic_lobster_party 29 points 2 years ago

Many vaccines, including the Covid vaccines, are based on aborted fetal tissue, apparently to try to increase public acceptance of abortion.

I’m not sure if this is Poe’s law in effect or if people are actually this stupid. I’m afraid it’s the latter.

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Ghyste 11 points 2 years ago

People are absolutely that stupid. I unfortunately have to interact with a few of them.

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hOrni 14 points 2 years ago

Are we sure this isn't a parody website?

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atzanteol 16 points 2 years ago

It's not. It was created by Andrew Schlafly, son of Phyllis Schlafly a notorious anti-feminist and Christian nationalist.

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newthrowaway20 5 points 2 years ago

Nope, it's deadly serious.

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SinningStromgald 2 points 2 years ago

Hard to tell honestly. It is poorly maintained as two clicks in and I found a dead page.

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frunch 12 points 2 years ago

It's like the Incel Bible, King Trump Edition lol

Wtf these people literally live in a different reality

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aarRJaay 43 points 2 years ago

'which is how he prefers to be identified' ... hmnnn - so he CHOOSES to IDENTIFY as one thing and doesn't like it when people don't allow him to use his preferred identificaiton?

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milicent_bystandr 5 points 2 years ago

I also choose to identify as the founder of Tesla.

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Whateley 38 points 2 years ago

They're just mad that reality has a left-wing bias.

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VitoRobles 12 points 2 years ago

There are right-wing US conservatives who are freaking out that other countries are boycotting Musk/Tesla, and calling it some left-wing psyOps.

Like Musk literally did the Hitler salute TWICE. The second time was in case you were mistaken.

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SolidShake 3 points 2 years ago

republicans also thing that all the protests all over the world are paid for by democrats lol.

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Kolanaki 9 points 2 years ago

They're mostly just mad that it tells the objective reality instead of parroting their lies.

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milicent_bystandr 2 points 2 years ago

One thing I love in Wikipedia, is even pages whose interpretation I disagree with (and yes, Wikipedia absolutely has interpretation), tend to have enough detail that I can learn interesting things and get a feel for what we do know and what we don't. Especially if I stumble upon some adjacent pages that have a very different take!

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Ulvain 34 points 2 years ago

Just donated to Wikipedia. Will do every time this fuckers brings it up

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pseudonaut 33 points 2 years ago

Just donated. You should too.

I love donating to Wikipedia because there’s so few FREE things anymore, and it’s one that benefits every single person on the planet.

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fff45667 4 points 2 years ago

I appreciate you.

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Nangijala 3 points 2 years ago

Have been donating to them yearly for a few years after they started their donation campaign. I forget how much I donate, but I'm considering raising my yearly donation now xD

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RowRowRowYourBot 31 points 2 years ago
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milicent_bystandr 3 points 2 years ago

History is written by the victors.

"Hmm 🤔, I'm rich, that should make me a victor, ergo..."

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termaxima 29 points 2 years ago
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tal 24 points 2 years ago

“This is not the first time Musk has gone after the site. In December, he posted on X, “Stop donating to Wokepedia.” And that wasn’t even his first bad Wikipedia pun. “I will give them a billion dollars if they change their name to Dickipedia,” he wrote, in an October, 2023, post.

You can't buy it, but you can go create a conservative fork called whatever you want, and you can fund its operation. If people think that it's better, they can choose to use it.

There's a Conservapedia, which I would call pretty off-the-rails; people have tried this before.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservapedia

Conservapedia (/kənˌsɜː(r)vəˈpiːdiə/; kən-SU(R)-və-PEE-di-ə) is an English-language, wiki-based, online encyclopedia written from a self-described American conservative[2] and fundamentalist Christian[3] point of view. The website was established in 2006 by American attorney and activist Andrew Schlafly, son of Phyllis Schlafly,[4][5] to counter what he perceived as a liberal bias on Wikipedia.[6][7] It uses editorials and a wiki-based system for content generation.

Examples of Conservapedia's ideology include its accusations against and strong criticism of former US president Barack Obama—including advocacy of Barack Obama citizenship conspiracy theories[8]—along with criticisms of atheism, feminism, homosexuality, the Democratic Party, and evolution. Conservapedia views Albert Einstein's theory of relativity as promoting moral relativism,[9] claims that abortion increases risk of breast cancer, praises Republican politicians, supports celebrities and artistic works it believes represent moral standards in line with Christian family values, and espouses fundamentalist Christian doctrines such as Young Earth creationism.[10][11] Conservapedia's "Conservative Bible Project" is a crowd-sourced retranslation of the English-language Bible which the site says to be "free of corruption by liberal untruths."[12]

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Lupus 7 points 2 years ago

Conservapedia views Albert Einstein's theory of relativity as promoting moral relativism

I just spat out my coffee :D utter lunacy

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nova_ad_vitum 3 points 2 years ago

It's been a few years since I checked, but I do recall their page about irrational numbers being hilarious. Felt like it was written by a high school gym teacher who also taught grade 9 math , so he didn't really need to understand irrational numbers but was super irritated that they exist.

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regrub 24 points 2 years ago
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ArchmageAzor 22 points 2 years ago

Of course he does, the site is filled with objective truths, which always makes him look bad.

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johncandy1812 20 points 2 years ago

Donate. How many times a day do you use Wikipedia? It would be shit if it became another Fandom style wiki. With an ad every 3rd word.

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TheGoddessAnoia 5 points 2 years ago

We use Wikipedia a lot, mostly to understand references from another country or culture, the rest to answer the question: "Who the hell is s/he..." The latter enquiries are often interesting, but rarely resolve the real issue, which is "... and why is s/he famous?" At any rate, we send a goodly annual donation, because without Wikipedia, we'd be even more out of touch than we already are!

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DarkFuture 19 points 2 years ago

Fascists always have problems with publicly available knowledge.

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Daggity 16 points 2 years ago

Started a monthly 3 dollar donation when baby Nazi started shit talking Wikipedia some months ago.

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vandsjov 6 points 2 years ago

Me too - they need it now more than ever when Trump and Musk starts focusing on Wikipedia.

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segabased 14 points 2 years ago

Conservativism is rooted in vibes and feelings, and false narratives to support those feelings. This is why they hate knowledge and people who attain it.

It's a disease of the mind, it's like they would rather be animal than human

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Doom 13 points 2 years ago

Donate to wikipedia.

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1984 12 points 2 years ago

I miss the times when people like this was seen as mentally ill.

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ToiletFlushShowerScream 9 points 2 years ago

Enjoy my small donation Wikipedia.

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Polderviking 9 points 2 years ago
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Lettuceeatlettuce 7 points 2 years ago

I happily donate to Wikipedia every year :)

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renrenPDX 5 points 2 years ago path: 0 15783392, hotness: undefined, score: 5, children: 0
Nangijala 4 points 2 years ago

Facts don't care about your feelings, Elon.

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MehBlah 2 points 2 years ago

Better go get me a updated copy before....whatever.

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