Rule of liberty

2 years ago by thisfro to c/196

“We gave it to you as a gift, but apparently you despise it. So it will be just fine here at home"

gravitas_deficiency 101 points 2 years ago

Ngl I love this energy.

I’m very serious when I say this: France should make this a core part of their foreign relations strategy with the US for as long as orangeboi keeps talking and perhaps planning to try to take over Greenland and Canada. It’s both hilarious and deeply appropriate.

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FireRetardant 51 points 2 years ago

I love the thought of one of the new french submarines sneaking over, tying a big rope aroud the statue, and towing it home.

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samus12345 100 points 2 years ago

"We changed it to reflect who we are now."

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TheFriar 32 points 2 years ago

“It’s a Roman salute!”

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samus12345 26 points 2 years ago

Which was very specifically adopted by the fascists in Italy.

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DragonTypeWyvern 23 points 2 years ago

And the fascists in Germany.

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TheFriar 22 points 2 years ago

And the fascists in the US

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samus12345 9 points 2 years ago

From the fascists in Italy, yes. It just explains why a Roman salute was used to begin with.

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lazynooblet 6 points 2 years ago

That is... accurate.

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Olgratin_Magmatoe 57 points 2 years ago

As an American I support this move. Every fucking day they should have to answer for why we lost the very fucking symbol of freedom.

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TheSlad 20 points 2 years ago

I agree. We dont deserve it anymore.

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gon 40 points 2 years ago

That's really funny.

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Ethalis 65 points 2 years ago

What's even funnier is that the MEP in question was (probably falsely) accused of being paid by the CIA to be a pro-american mole in the French Left last year

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gon 22 points 2 years ago

That is even funnier!

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Dagwood222 13 points 2 years ago

I don't know the story, but if I were a CIA plant I'd do something similar. It's loud and obnoxious, but it's just a gesture and it wouldn't actually hurt my bosses.

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Mouette 5 points 2 years ago

Putting us a same intellectuel level as American is not what I call a great move for French left...

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VeryInterestingTable 33 points 2 years ago

She is definitely an immigrant so ICE will take care of it. No doubt.

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Soup 3 points 2 years ago

Doesn’t the plaque there even specifically focus on an incredibly open immigration policy?

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KingThrillgore 19 points 2 years ago

I'm surprised she hasn't up and left.

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Mic_Check_One_Two 14 points 2 years ago

I mean, her feet are chained. Which also feels appropriate…

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disguy_ovahea 17 points 2 years ago

I wouldn’t be surprised if Trump deports her for domestic terrorism.

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Manifish_Destiny 4 points 2 years ago

Deports her....

from France?

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skulblaka 8 points 2 years ago

He's been trying to deport the Native Americans, I'm sure he'll try.

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disguy_ovahea 4 points 2 years ago

I meant the Statue of Liberty. Lol

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roguesignal 15 points 2 years ago

What the fuck is happening to our country? In what timeline did we ever see a future where we would lose the Statue of Liberty???

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Zorsith 14 points 2 years ago

Clean the american grime off (the green copper oxidation) when you get it back

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Madison420 18 points 2 years ago

The oxidation is what's keeping it together, if you clean the oxide off and don't seal it then it oxidizes again and takes material with it. It's similar as to why stainless lasts so long.

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Zorsith 6 points 2 years ago

I would certainly hope some kind of sealant would be used. It would be astounding to see it fully polished and shining in full sunlight.

Probably wont happen in my lifetime though, or likely ever.

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Madison420 12 points 2 years ago

The issue is you need to recoat sealants every 10-15 years, you only need to chat oxide every 50 to 100 to access damage and most of the damage is on the internal iron structure that the dielectric force is slowly eating at a faster rate then the copper skin.

There was a bunch of news about it around iirc 1980 when they cleaned sections to rebuild the inner scaffold in some areas.

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theneverfox 8 points 2 years ago

I mean, isn't that kind of symbolic though? France does regular maintenance on their democracy, we wait until it's on the verge of irreparable corruption before we (hopefully) go in and fix it before it collapses

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Zorsith 1 point 2 years ago

Oof, yeah that is problematic

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Baguette 5 points 2 years ago

The oxidation makes it cool imo

Like a testament to time (which is kinda ironic given the us democracy failed that)

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DragonTypeWyvern 4 points 2 years ago

Please, we've been MUCH worse people between then and now, you ain't seen nothing yet.

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doomsdayrs 3 points 2 years ago

omg I was yapping to my french friends about France maybe doing this, and here we are!

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FirstMajesticComet 3 points 2 years ago

Oh my god I just said this the other day. It would be very funny if that somehow happened and they sent it back to France. We really don't deserve it.

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WereCat 3 points 2 years ago

"Give it back so we can burn it"

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mrodri89 3 points 2 years ago

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surph_ninja 3 points 2 years ago

Did Macron decide to respect the will of the voters, and stop empowering conservatives yet?

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kilgore_trout 6 points 2 years ago

A socialist MEP said this, not the President of the Republic.

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surph_ninja 2 points 2 years ago

So they see an authoritarian rushing towards fascism in opposition of the will of the voters to protect capitalists from rising leftism, and decided the Statue of Liberty would be more at home with an authoritarian rushing towards fascism in opposition of the will of the voters to protect capitalists from rising leftism… but in Europe!

Genius.

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Liljekonvalj -10 points 2 years ago

Wait 4 years. Be patient. He barely won and he mostly won due to people not voting.

Edit

Many people are under the influence that you shouldn't act while you wait. I see why it looks like that's what I am saying, but it is not. You must act. And believe in yourself that you can make a difference. You have to act and not be passive. BUT France does NOT need to pick silly battles with America over a statue. Focus on the right issue at hand

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Cheems 21 points 2 years ago

It's wild to have any faith that they'll give up any power. Even on the actual slim chance that Trump leaves the white house peacefully if anyone they deem not the right candidate they'll just claim the election was rigged. This is just how it is now.

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Liljekonvalj 2 points 2 years ago

It'll be a battle. But a battle for the American people, not the French. In the meantime, there are things to do to empower Europe's defense, not to pick fights over the statue of liberty with America. You must have faith in yourself, in the people that what we do will make a difference

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pupbiru 20 points 2 years ago

the world is not going back. we waited 4 years last time, sighed with relief, and said “thank fuck that’s enough of that”

… and here we are

the trust is lost; there are no more chances

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Zzyzx 19 points 2 years ago

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nanoswarm9k 8 points 2 years ago

agree. we will have to actively repair gerrymandering and voter disenfranchisement and supression on our local levels if we want change via voting.

not sure we'll get that without some Direct Action™

even then, with the going rate of an hour of work being such shit, mostly only cash-addicts end up running for office... Hard to keep it fair and honest when almost everyone is threatened with hunger, homelessness, and super mean imprisonment if they can't maintain the finicky contractual approval of a land-owner.

We have this year to fix it, hopefully, if enough people do whatever they can, or at least stop mainlining the red fascist or blue enabler koolaid.

think globally, act locally, etc.

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Liljekonvalj 2 points 2 years ago

No, unfortunately Trump is destroying major parts of how America works. But take action, believe in the cause. Patience will be a must, to restore america after all of this. If you allow yourself to feel defeated, the "flooding of the zone" has won. The other side, whatever you choose to call them, has won long time ago.

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KingThrillgore 5 points 2 years ago

We're not going to survive 4 years.

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Liljekonvalj 5 points 2 years ago

I didn't say "do nothing" while you wait

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lazynooblet 4 points 2 years ago

I expect in those 4 years, irreparable damage will have been done to Americas reputation and social security structure. Minds will have been propaganda'd into accepting their new reality.

That is even if elections take place in 4 years. I totally expect a Putin style reign with the 2 term limit abolished or just plain ignored.

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Liljekonvalj 2 points 2 years ago

That's why we have to take action. Not start a war, but take action.

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guy 2 points 2 years ago

It is more than just Trump. The US is a democracy and thus any government is a result of the will of the people. Europe doesn't trust Trump yes, but neither the population of the US who voted him to office.

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Liljekonvalj 4 points 2 years ago

31% voted for him

30% voted for Harris

The rest didn't vote or voted for something else. More people didn't actually vote for him than those who did.

USA is not a democracy. For a democracy peoples votes count, not the electoral votes. Did you know a person can become president with only 27% of the votes?

https://www.npr.org/...

Remember this key and Peele skit?

https://youtu.be/DGlbJQP2tIQ

The problem is their system

The American people are waking up and it will be their fight. In the meantime Europe has their OWN issues. This is not the time to bicker over silly things.

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