Trump official declaring ‘anyone who preaches hate for America’ will be deported worries users: ‘They just skip the First Amendment’

a year ago by floofloof to c/news

Deputy Chief of Staff for Policy Stephen Miller's pledge to deport those who "preach hate for America" has sparked fears of free speech violations.

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/28249577

Top Trump official Stephen Miller's recent declaration that anyone who "preaches hate for America" will face deportation has ignited alarm online, with critics warning the statement disregards First Amendment protections.

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Social media users and legal analysts raised immediate concerns, pointing out that expressing dissent or criticism of the government is protected under the First Amendment. Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

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The backlash has reignited broader debates over the limits of free speech, especially as civil liberties fall under scrutiny. While immigration enforcement remains a core theme of President Donald Trump's platform, critics are increasingly questioning whether rhetoric like Miller's is a precursor to more aggressive suppression of dissent.

catloaf 124 points a year ago

That goes against the first amendment, which I think makes it anti-american. Can Stephen Miller start by deporting himself?

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dandelion 70 points a year ago

they're no longer following the Constitution, in case anyone has noticed ...

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flandish 24 points a year ago

They never were. Unless they added things that helped them or a cohort at a given time. cf: prohibition, its repeal, etc.

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nulluser 3 points a year ago

Which makes them anti-American.

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dandelion 2 points a year ago

I don't think they care about their hypocrisy, tbh - I think they view themselves as more American while dismantling America. This is just how reactionary coups work, they appeal to nationalism, but insist on reverting to an older status quo as a more authentic version of that nationalism. (It's a re-invisioning of America in a sense.)

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IamSparticles 2 points a year ago

They're dressing for the America they want.

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CharlesDarwin 1 point a year ago

They always hated what the Constitution actually has in it, like no endorsement of their god, for instance.

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dandelion 2 points a year ago

of course, but that might be part of the reason they shouted their loyalty to it all the louder

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apfelwoiSchoppen 9 points a year ago

It is never not projection.

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thedruid 5 points a year ago

He will be jailed with the rest when the time comes

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MyOpinion 60 points a year ago

All of these MAGAts need to be in jail.

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apfelwoiSchoppen 56 points a year ago

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pelespirit 6 points a year ago

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MagicShel 46 points a year ago

I love America. I swore to defend it against all enemies. I do not love what it is doing or who the government defines as enemies.

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flandish 16 points a year ago

When will you recognize that the government is behaving as if citizens are the enemy and itself is actually doing the same things enemies do..

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nulluser 14 points a year ago

That's pretty much what they said.

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unmagical 10 points a year ago

I love who the government defines as enemies. I don't love that the government defines them as enemies.

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MBech 44 points a year ago

Fuck America, Fuck Trump, Fuck these nazi pricks, and congratz, you'll never have to deport me, I won't ever visit your shithole of a country.

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barnaclebutt 1 point a year ago
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MisterCurtis 37 points a year ago

Trump isn't America, the government isn't America, fuck them. The people are America.

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FelixMortane 18 points a year ago

Unless the people do something about, Trump and the government are exactly America. If no one stops it and just complies, then it is endorsement by default.

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MisterCurtis 3 points a year ago

Yeah, fuck them too then. I'm not standing for this shit.

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unexposedhazard 0 points a year ago

Sadly the people with the big guns and the people in control of the internet and power grid and infrastructure and money and banks and social media listen to that guy. What you gonna do about it?

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nanoswarm9k 4 points a year ago

nice try, fbi

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unexposedhazard 3 points a year ago

:3 hewwo it me friendly revowolutionary helper. how uwuould u like 2 go to pwison todaii?

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nanoswarm9k 0 points a year ago

take my upvotes!

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void_turtle 23 points a year ago

Really hate the milktoast way these articles are written. "critics warning" "ignited alarm online" "backlash has ignited debate" ffs just say the Trump admin announced the end of free speech. That is literally what happened.

Some worried the administration was veering into authoritarian territory.

FFS WE'VE BEEN THERE THIS ISN'T VEERING THIS IS FOLLOWING A STRAIGHT LINE ALONG THE PATH WE'VE ALREADY BEEN ON FUCK

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ngdev 7 points a year ago

milktoast is a pretty milquetoast breakfast, though i will admit it actually pairs well with a milk steak boiled hard

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corbs132 2 points a year ago

With jelly beans?

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kreskin 18 points a year ago

What does "hate for america" even mean? Does "I think mcdonalds fries are garbage" count? or "republicans are whiny little maggots"?

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Whitebrow 7 points a year ago

Pretty sure this comment alone is like 5 reasons by itself

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Lifecoach5000 18 points a year ago

I hate America. Come at me bro.

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alekwithak 18 points a year ago

But he's doing it right now??? Ohh he's conflating the current administration with America even though all their values are in complete contradiction to everything this country is supposed to stand for. Got it.

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all4theTomatoes 17 points a year ago

Whats that joke Reagan cracked back in the 80s about Russian Soviets not allowed to criticise their government?

Yea, huh. Wonder what happened to that.

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TheReturnOfPEB 14 points a year ago

They are going to milk the extrajudicial rendition until there is an actual outbreak of violence to try and stop it.

Then Trump will send those people involved into a gulag, too.

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MehBlah 9 points a year ago

Agreed the purpose is to cause people to act and then move in to crush them. All the while playing the victim. Of course that play doesn't always work.

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avidamoeba 14 points a year ago

So let's say that SCOTUS rules that this policy infringes on the first amendment. Then they deport another person. Who's to stop doing it?

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Shawdow194 2 points a year ago

Who watches the watchmen...

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phoenixz 14 points a year ago

Disagreeing with the dear leader will also be the same as preaching hate for America

Not clapping enthusiastic enough will also be the same as preaching hate for America

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ChristOnACracker 12 points a year ago

Fuck Steven Millier the majority of Americans hate the POS fucktard! The majority of Americans hate the way the moronic fat orange slob trump has changed democracy in America and find him repulsive, disgusting and a complete fucking idiot along with his cabal of asshat republicans who can fucking shove christianity, their Bible and their ideology up their privileged white asses! Nothing but POS cowards, white trash who hide behind their walls and use the moron low IQ ICE Agents who probably average an IQ of 2! Can't wait to see America fight back...in time those agents will regret their I'll will!

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OutlierBlue 4 points a year ago

Sir, please step this way. Your flight to El Salvador leaves from gate 88.

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griff 11 points a year ago

Who hates America more by their actions than the GOP?

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DoucheBagMcSwag 1 point a year ago

Aye. Fuck the maggots

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pulsewidth 10 points a year ago

"Worries users" - is the USA an operating system now?

Is AI writing these posts? The statement makes sense in context in the full post, but the headline absolutely does not - leads me to believe yes, AI slop.

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SoftestSapphic 9 points a year ago

Here it is, the mask comes off and they tell us to comply or die. We are officially in a fascist dictatorship.

This is where we use our community organizations to alert when and where ICE will be showing up, and making sure armed support shows up to make sure ICE steps down or dies whenever they slink out of the shadows.

If they come for you to deport you to El Salvador you need to kill as many as possible or try to escape to Mexico/Canada, because going to El Salvador is a death sentence anyway.

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thepenismightier 8 points a year ago

Skip the first and head right for the second I see.

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barnaclebutt 8 points a year ago

I'm pretty sure Stephen Miller is just undead Goebbels resurrected in a skin suit. Not as smart, but the instincts are intact.

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Apple87sagan 8 points a year ago

The resistance needs to grow before my country is fucked.... #GrowTheResistance

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urquell 5 points a year ago

Before?

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Apple87sagan 2 points a year ago

*even more

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barneypiccolo 8 points a year ago

Trump once said that this guy, Kapo Stephen "PeeWee Himmler" Miller, told him that he'd like to see America's population reduced from the current 335 million down to 100 million.

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floofloof 7 points a year ago

Surely you guys can take out Stephen Miller before he takes out 225 million of you?

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barneypiccolo 7 points a year ago

He's essentially daring us to use the 2nd Amendment, which is exactly what they want. Then they can declare Martial Law, and suspend the Mid-term elections.

They cant allow the 2026 Mid-Term to happen. Its shaping up to be a bloodbath for MAGA, and if they lose either chamber, the Dems will control investigative committees with subpoena and arrest power. So they are looking for an excuse to suspend elections for the first time in our history.

So they will be trying to goad us into violence through their words and actions, and eventually they will incite violence at the protests, which will be nearly daily by next summer. They have to time it carefully, and suspend elections close enough to election day that the courts can't react in time. That means next summer will be really ugly.

This is just the start.

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bstix 3 points a year ago

What stops them suspending the mid-term elections anyway?

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barneypiccolo 5 points a year ago

America has NEVER suspended an election, even during the Civil War. Just declaring them suspended would be far too alarming for even many MAGA Morons. They'll want an excuse, a justification, to keep as many of their stupidest followers on board for as long as possible.

Thats how it's done. They didn't send a bunch of innocent brown people to El Salvador, they sent "violent gang members," even though at least 80% had no criminal record. They need to keep plausible deniability for as long as possible, to keep things from getting too hot and boiling over.

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CharlesDarwin 5 points a year ago

LOL, PeeWee Himmler. I'm stealing that one.... yoink 🤣

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barneypiccolo 2 points a year ago

Public domain, spread the word.

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Zacryon 8 points a year ago

I don't hate America. America is a continent. It would be really silly to hate an entire continent.

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atzanteol 6 points a year ago

Was not expecting the purposefully obtuse European response in this thread.

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RememberTheApollo_ 7 points a year ago

The Talibangelical issues a Fatwah.

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CharlesDarwin 7 points a year ago

Stephen Miller is the one preaching hate for America, the weird little twerp.

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streetfestival 7 points a year ago

This is the same bogus and weaponizable logic that legitimate criticism of Israel's genocide = 'antisemitism' is. If you want to call legitimate criticism of the illegal and unethical actions of this POTUS administration 'hate for America', the notion that deportations (of US-born people) are going to ramp up shortly just became very real for me

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Foni 7 points a year ago

I wish I could say I'm surprised.

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Eddbopkins 7 points a year ago

i love the USA and everything the constitution stands for. i don't agree with how this administration is running the government in some respects.

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Waldowal 13 points a year ago

Straight to El Salvador jail

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Mooseford 3 points a year ago
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P1nkman 2 points a year ago

"What constitution?" - current government

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Cocopanda 7 points a year ago
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ZMoney 6 points a year ago

We don't hate America. We hate you.

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brammis 6 points a year ago

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floofloof 3 points a year ago

You left out this:

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brammis 2 points a year ago

💯

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imsufferableninja 5 points a year ago

What are the "users" in this context?

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SparroHawc 5 points a year ago

I want to get off Mr. Bones' Wild Ride...

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Octagon9561 3 points a year ago
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