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a year ago by hitstun to c/fedia

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I'm a Fedia user and I made this thread on !physicsgifs@lemm.ee this morning. It's doing great there! There are 10 comments, and you can see them on Lemm.ee, but none of the comments are viewable on Fedia. Weird. I've never had this happen before. A Lemm.ee federation problem, maybe?

Edit: Oh, I know what happened now. So, the first comment is from a startrek.website user, and Fedia defederated startrek.website. All of the other comments are replies (or replies to replies) in that user's comment thread. Therefore, Fedia missed all those comments.

vaguerant 3 points a year ago

Do we know why startrek.website is defederated? I'm not disputing it, I just don't know what the history is. Checking them out, they look like a pretty generic single(-ish)-purpose instance around sci-fi TV (mainly Star Trek and Doctor Who).

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jerry 6 points a year ago

The admin of startrek.website reached out to me - guessing because of this thread? And seems responsive enough so I’ve removed the block and will work with them on any new issues that arise. Apologies for the trouble.

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ValueSubtracted 3 points a year ago

Thanks for hearing us out!

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hitstun 5 points a year ago

Wow, I didn't think my little comment issue would end with brokering peace in the federation. Cool! Thank you for working it out.

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jerry 3 points a year ago

Anytime. Thank you for reaching out.

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vaguerant 3 points a year ago

Nice, thanks for the update! I went ahead and searched the original comments on @hitstun@fedia.io's thread to force them to federate, so they're now all visible on our end as well.

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Blaze 4 points a year ago

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hitstun 3 points a year ago

That would do it. It's funny that our banned instances list puts startrek.website and ani.social right up there with the Tankie Triad, but I'm sure Jerry has his reasons for all of those.

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vaguerant 7 points a year ago

I can't speak for @jerry@fedia.io, but I wonder if the situation could change as the Mbin software evolves. Currently, we don't have user-level instance blocks on Mbin, a feature which does exist over on Lemmy. There is already a high-priority feature request for this to be added to Mbin.

Once users can self-select what instances they want to block, instance-wide defederations could in theory be more relaxed, as questionably-objectionable instances can be handled with user-side blocks rather than the current setup where defederation is really the only option.

Another thing that some Lemmy instances have done (@Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com, you're everywhere, help me out; do you know where I might have seen this?) is setting up a default block list on the user-side. This is effectively an instance-wide defederation that individual users can elect to reverse, allowing another level of handling for problem instances. Ultimately, users win when admins have more options than full defederation available to them.

EDIT: I found it, it's lemmy.zip that does this:

https://lemmy.zip/post/33065677

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jerry 4 points a year ago

I’m certainly willing to give startrek another shot - the reports about them were getting overwhelming at one point, which led me to blocking the instance.

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Blaze 2 points a year ago

EDIT: I found it, it’s lemmy.zip that does this:

Indeed!

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Australis13 3 points a year ago

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Blaze 3 points a year ago

Too many reports, see my other comment

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Fitik 3 points a year ago

Honestly I am wondering too, we also defederate ani.social , another thematic instance, they seem to be well moderated, so I'm unsure about the reasons

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Blaze 2 points a year ago

Too many reports, see my other comment

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ValueSubtracted 2 points a year ago

I'm hopeful that there won't be any issues with startrek.website moving forward, but please feel free to reach out to me directly with any concerns (with the caveat that said concerns should directly involve you, and not some unrelated drama).

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