Mullvad is much friendlier to privacy, but their proxies get blocked by A LOT of stuff, they also have a very small number of proxies. Mullvad collects literally nothing about you, but that's a double edged sword. not having any way to verify exactly who paid money into which account number means they can't help you if someone steals your account. I also have it on good authority that mullvad isn't very reliable at getting past more aggressive censorship firewalls. the one in china for example won't allow you to use mullvad unless the sim you're connecting from is a US one.

Proton doesn't record anything you're doing with their VPN and they've had to prove that many times and their "sentinel" program and the 2FA and double password you can enable make it very hard if not impossible for someone to mootch off your account. I very rarely get blocked by anything when I use proton VPN, if I ever do get blocked I just have to change the proxy I'm on. I don't even have to change the location most of the time because proton VPN has a huge number of proxies at each location.

Proton also gives you the ability to save recovery phrases and recovery files if you lose your password(s) or your 2FA

ente auth and ageis auth are great for storing your 2FAs and they allow you to back them up to a file if your account with ente fails in some way or if you forget the password to get into your ageis

as for those recovery files and phrases I talked about. save them in text files on a small capacity flash drive that you don't use for anything else

I prefer Mullvad. Regularly audited, can pay with cash if preferred, everything runs on RAM, and hasn’t had any controversies so far. The only issue for some is no port forwarding. I also like the multi-hop and DAITA features.

Mullvad. Their servers run on RAM, and they don't have any information about you no email, no username you can even pay with cash. However, Proton has port forwarding, while Mullvad does not.

I like that you don't have to provide an email address to mullvad.

I use Proton currently since it comes with my proton subscription. But I used mullvad for years and prefer it. They're both good, you can't go wrong really.

Mullvad hasn’t yet shown themselves fed- friendly.

Proton has.

Mullvad is the answer.

I like Mullvad better

If you don't need proton's whole suite of tools I say go for mullvad.

You can also just test them both out for yourself. Try mullvad for one month, proton another. The nice thing with mullvad I believe is that it's way more anonymous in terms of various forms of payment and I believe it has a fixed price.

Mullvad. Not even a question

Mullvad any day. Support is awesome.

If you go with Mullvad look for the gift cards out there that are for 6 or 12 months of service. I grabbed one off Amazon.ca for 12 months at $75. Works out to be cheaper than paying per month with the ever changing exchange rates.

I also like the fact that Mullvad has servers in the city I live in where as Proton has them on the west coast or east coast. Not the greatest for those in the middle of the country.

Mullvad. It's cheaper than Proton. But Proton has more servers. Like Proton even provies Indian IPs, but the servers are hosted in Singapore, which may be something people need, as Mullvad do not have any servers with Indian IPs.

You can also try IVPN, it is almost same like Mullvad, no email for account, pay using Monero etc, but you can get a one week subscription for $2.

I prefer Mullvad. I've found it a lot more reliable. I was a paying Proton customer but still had connectivity issues a non-negligible number of times, whereas I've literally never had Mullvad be the cause of connection issues in my years of using it. It's great that they take cash and have literally only an account hash associated with your account.

I've also found that Mullvad customer support are responsive, helpful, and know what they're talking about. I've had experiences with Proton's customer support that were ok, but occasionally had the typical customer service hiccups along the lines of being assigned a new support agent who doesn't read back all the conversation (understandable—I had one bug I was dealing with for months) and you have to explain again what the original issue was and what has been done since.

I think both options are perfectly fine, but I definitely prefer Mullvad, and it's what I recommend to people if they ask me to recommend a VPN service.

IVPN imo, just because it offers reverse split tunneling, if you prefer having more countries to choose from you can use Proton.

Maybe try both!! I love both VPNs

There'd thundermail coming out soon, which will probably have mullvad included. This also funds firefox too which is nice.

Has anyone used Mullvad vpn with a media server? I’m currently using AirVPN, but it’s not that good speed-wise. I’ve been looking at Mullvad for a while, but they’ve abandoned port forwarding, which I’m not sure how big of an impact that is.

Trackers are browser problem, get ublock origin. You can block trackers by changing your dns resolver i recommend Quad9 or adguard.

You don't really get hacked unless you download and open files or your accounts get recovered by someone sending all your information to customer support pretending to be you.

Doxxing is a low skill level threat its very easy, google your target's username and find information about them, yeah its that simple. All your user data is linked to your user name and profile picture. What i suggest doing is using the same tools doxxers use (sherlock) to find your long forgotten accounts and then delete them, remember to never use the same username and profile picture.

When a database leaks it will most likely contain your username, email and ip address, this information will be findable by username, email or ip address. If you ever use an account without a vpn using a vpn wont anonymize you from the service. Disable webrtc in your browser it often leaks ip addresses while using vpns also watch out for ip grabbers.

Tldr: dont use same usernames and profile pictures, vpn is 100% secure if used wrong.

I love that Proton bots/fanboys always get pretty nervous when someone just points out the facts 🤣

What about NordVPN? I use it and I’m pretty happy.

A VPN is a VPN, having a different IP address is equally effective against those things no matter which IP it is. The issue is whether or not anyone can associate that IP with yours, and what that comes down to is how willing they are to give up their records when the government asks nicely (or, even more importantly: not so nicely.) I'm not familiar enough with either service to be able to speak to that, but everyone else seems to be talking about features, prices, politics, etc when none of those directly address your questions.

Tor Browser

Mullvad of course. Proton is American right?